Props to Jason Garrett

[CowboysFaninHouston]

How long ago was that? 10 years ago? Longer? Any offense with Romo, TO, ect….ect…. are going to put up tons of yards.

Garrett's usefulness on the offensive side of the ball was used up many many years ago.

Look at Linehan? 2016 was amazing. Then team catch up and they cant adjust.

Moore > Linehan > Garrett

Linehan was terrible, but he was better than Garrett. Sadly.

so what's the cut off date for being considered? seems like 10 years is not acceptable.,

in regards to Romo comment. which coaches have done it without talent? Bilicheck has zero playoff wins without Brady. he didn't even make the playoffs without Brady. McCarthy had Rodgers, the three time MVP. some pretty good WRs. same with Caroll...so this Romo stuff, then applies to every coach in the league. btw, where does Romo rank in the annals of QBin the league?

Also, to the Dak crowd, when the name Romo comes up, they all knock Romo and all complained Dak didn't have a WR to throw to, etc. etc. etc....now all of a sudden its Romo and TO...and yes, when he had those players, he produced a top 3 offense and a top 5 offense.

Linehan was good in 2016, then he just became stubborn doing what he wanted only and trying to fit Dak into his offense. he didn't want to let go of Romo and the back shoulder throw.

Linehan had one season where Rams were top 10. his best season as a head coach was 8-8 in 2006 and south from there....3-13 and 0-4 and fired...

Linehan wasn't better than garrett. ever. sorry to disappoint. stats and facts back that up. not opinions of those who just hate.


and btw, I am not a garrett supporters. I am just not a blind hater.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You guys shouldn't forget that Garrett couldn't win the division when the Commanders clinched it with only 7 wins.
The East has been in constant rebuild mode, but Garrett has struggled most years to get to 9 wins.
Linehan saved his job in 2014, and carried him since. Now it's Moore.
Don't come with that crap about Garrett's top offenses, either. They passed between the twenties, but because Garrett had abandoned the run game they couldn't score when the field shortened and the receivers couldn't get open.
Garrett isn't just an average coach- he's terrible.

wait, I find it funny...Linehan sucked, but now Linehan is a savior...how? well, it fits my argument because I hate garrett...

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Garrett has fought giving up the offense the entire time here. Jerry FORCED Garrett to give it up. Just like he warned Garrett to stay out of the way of Moore and let him do his thing.

jerry forced? and warned? is there any articles that point to this? TMZ?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Wrong and I posted proof a few days ago. Garrett didn't want the OC duties.

proof doesn't matter. their hate and perception is much stronger and more reliable

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Oh I definitely hate Garrett. You got that part right.

Just look at how great our offense looks the FIRST GAME Garrett has been purged from the offense.

Can you tell the difference or no? Do you think we should go back to Garrett calling plays?

according to Dak Prescott, yes, that Dak Prescott he said its essentially the same play book...but hey, what the heck does Prescott know about football....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I have a feeling Cowboy Roy hates garrett? not sure, just a gut feeling

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I have been hearing from the crybabies how Garrett was purged from the offense a few years ago.

Now we are going to change the narrative that Garrett was purged when Moore became coordinator?

You need to stop crying and complaining when the team is winning. It looks pathetic.

its called a spin......its an art actually. how you can spin things into your own reality

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

In 10 years Garrett has produced only 3 playoff berths , applauding that catastrophe is beyond shameful .

 

[GORICO]

that's gonna be a no from me, dawg

Darth--- oh man the guy got "Dawgged"..hehehe
gggg

Has to be the lack of reps. Hoping they will gel soon. Unless the D-Line is getting pushed out of there gaps and it’s changing where the LB need to be.

glim--- i read an article that showed play by play and our linebackers often are hitting wrong gaps...sometimes Jaylon in running so hard and fast will overrun a play or two...but this was different like they are not practicing the right way or something?...it concerns me...i dont follow the huge hype stuff until game day...i like to find where teams is playing weak during the week and hope they are making corrections...and now with Xavior woods out with high ankle sprain i am worried..i dont want them to put Frazier in because guy cannot cover and maybe the new rookie wilson who had 3 int's during preseason can ball??

 

[GORICO]

In 10 years Garrett has produced only 3 playoff berths , applauding that catastrophe is beyond shameful .

Bob--- i cannot disagree...for me it seems like..wow this year we may be close..only to have reality hit

 

[Idgit]

You guys shouldn't forget that Garrett couldn't win the division when the Commanders clinched it with only 7 wins.
The East has been in constant rebuild mode, but Garrett has struggled most years to get to 9 wins.
Linehan saved his job in 2014, and carried him since. Now it's Moore.
Don't come with that crap about Garrett's top offenses, either. They passed between the twenties, but because Garrett had abandoned the run game they couldn't score when the field shortened and the receivers couldn't get open.
Garrett isn't just an average coach- he's terrible.

What you're saying about Garrett offenses and scoring, it's not accurate, btw.

And if the Cowboys go on to win the NFCE again, it'll be 4 of the last 6 for Garrett. And he'll be the first HC to repeat as division champion since the 2003-2004 Eagles. That's with a very good PHI team that's been keeping pace with him in the division the whole time.

And the East has won two Superbowls since Garrett's been in Dallas. It has not been in rebuild mode, at all.

This is the kind of stuff you guys really should be able to sort out for yourself, for the record. You can just keep believing what you want to believe, I guess, but the facts don't support it at all.

 

[GORICO]

I don't demand anything. I have said he has to win and win big. Meantime I'm not going to trash him on a daily basis. I'm a fan of the team I want them to be successful I pull for them and him not against. If others choose to trash him that is fine I really don't care what any other fan does, I don't watch the Cowboys for you or any other fan.

Doom--- i am a hard core hie hard fan too...but there were really only 3 coaches i really respected...Tom Landry until the game passed him by...Jimmy Johnson...and Parcells...the latter two because they would not sugar coat stuff...

 

[Idgit]

In 10 years Garrett has produced only 3 playoff berths , applauding that catastrophe is beyond shameful .

What boggles me is that there are so many of you guys out there who think the Garrett teams that didn't make the playoffs were actually playoff teams. Those 2011 and 2012 teams weren't good teams. 2017 we may should have gotten in. 2013 we had a legit shot. But that was the year Romo had that back injury against the Commanders and we had to start Orton in the win-and-in game.

In any event, there's no knock on not getting bad teams to the post season. And having two borderline-at-best teams get eliminated in week 17 is not a catastrophe by any stretch of the definition.

 

[CowboyRoy]

It's irrelevant to this conversation, but what Garrett actually said was that they didn't 'anticipate any changes,' and he said that because it was the week or so before they headed into the senior bowl, which is well known to be the job fair for out of work or soon to be out of work coaches. Whatever Linehan did to set Jerry off changed the plan from the usual take-the-high-road and mutually part ways this team usually does.

Jones didn't 'get pissed at Garrett publicly,' either, btw.

Didn't anticipate any changes? Yet Jones was planning on making a big one.

So either Garret is completely out of the loop or he was fine with Linehan staying.

If he wanted a coaching change he NEVER would have said that.

Common sense.

 

[GORICO]

What you're saying about Garrett offenses and scoring, it's not accurate, btw.

And if the Cowboys go on to win the NFCE again, it'll be 4 of the last 6 for Garrett. And he'll be the first HC to repeat as division champion since the 2003-2004 Eagles. That's with a very good PHI team that's been keeping pace with him in the division the whole time.

And the East has won two Superbowls since Garrett's been in Dallas. It has not been in rebuild mode, at all.

This is the kind of stuff you guys really should be able to sort out for yourself, for the record. You can just keep believing what you want to believe, I guess, but the facts don't support it at all.

ldgit--- i dont disagree with the overall facts you presented because they are the facts....i guess its the lack of "killer instinct" that seems to come from Garrett that fans are most critical of?..i could be wrong..just a thought

 

[CowboyRoy]

What boggles me is that there are so many of you guys out there who think the Garrett teams that didn't make the playoffs were actually playoff teams. Those 2011 and 2012 teams weren't good teams. 2017 we may should have gotten in. 2013 we had a legit shot. But that was the year Romo had that back injury against the Commanders and we had to start Orton in the win-and-in game.

In any event, there's no knock on not getting bad teams to the post season. And having two borderline-at-best teams get eliminated in week 17 is not a catastrophe by any stretch of the definition.

How many times did the Cowboys have to win the last game of the year to get into the playoff and they laid an egg?

Garrrett had all the chances and talent he needed, he just sucks at his job.

Why does the fan base want him fired?

Why is Jerry withholding a new contract until after this year?

Why isn't Garrett still calling plays?

Why isn't Garrett still the OC?

Why has EVERY coach been replaced at least twice over around Garrett since Garrett has been here?

Why do you think Garrett is a great coach?

 

[GORICO]

I think you do know exactly what I’m saying, because it’s the same point I’ve made all along. When I’m talking “wins” I mean “football games.” And we’ve been winning a lot of football games.

When you’re talking “winning playoff games” I’m saying that we have won some, and that the ones we’ve lost haven’t been because of the coaching. And the criticism of the playoff coaching is just rank second-guessing *every* disappointed fan base does and not actual thoughtful criticism. There are a lot of reasons teams fail to advance in the playoffs every year. And this organization has gotten a lot smarter, but it’s far from perfect.

lidgit--- do you think our defense just needs to gel or is there real reason for concern...Xavier woods out for a while concerns me...hoping the wilson rookie who had 3 int's in preseason can translate that in regular season?

 

[CowboyRoy]

ldgit--- i dont disagree with the overall facts you presented because they are the facts....i guess its the lack of "killer instinct" that seems to come from Garrett that fans are most critical of?..i could be wrong..just a thought

Its the fact that he was brought in to be an offensive genius and he is an offensive failure. He sucks at in game management, play calling, adjustments, creativity, innovation.

He does nothing for this team.

 

[408Cowboy]

I cant comment on what other posters have said. But the timeline is like this:

-Jones demands that Garrett give up play calling duties
-Garrett fumbles around with handing those duties to Callahan, and actually taking them back at one point.
-Callahan leaves the first moment he can because he cant stand working with Garrett
-Jones FORCES Garrett to hire a NEW OC and give those duties to him.
-Garrett hand picks Linehan to run his cookie cutter offense, just the way that Garrett wants him to in the conservative, boring fashion
-Garrett is asked after the season is over if there will be any coaching changes and he states "no major coaching changes will be made"
-Jones freaks out and slaps down Garrett publicly
-Jones forces the firing of linehan hires Moore and forces Garrett completely out of the picture. "Tell me if your ideas are not being implemented and I will make sure they are". STAY OUT OF THE WAY GARRETT!!
-Moore does his thing without Garrett meddling and the offense takes a 180 and is all of a sudden one of the top offenses in the NFL

On point

 

[GORICO]

Admitting what is obvious?

I have no idea what you are even trying to argue here Idgit.

We have won nothing! We are 2-0 into a 16 game schedule in the 9th year of Garrett's tenure with 2 Wildcard wins on his postseason resume.

I dont have a crystal ball, so I dont know how this is all going to go down. Maybe we make the playoffs, maybe we dont. Maybe we lose in the first round, maybe we dont. Maybe we make it to the SuperBowl, maybe we dont. So help me out here, what exactly is Garrett being given props for at this point? Any celebration seems highly premature, but maybe I am just missing something here.

Beast---- i can see you no-likee Garrett-ee