LVE and Jaylon Smith 2019 vs 2018

Hawkeye0202

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This nugget from MMQB.......anyone else notice this


https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/09/23/j...inshew-mmqb-week-3?utm_source=twitter.com&utm

Sleepy Sunday for the Cowboys, but there was an interesting under-the-radar development in their game. The coaches lightened Jaylon Smith’s snap load a little bit, so they could use him as a down pass-rusher in certain spots. There aren’t many players in the NFL who can toggle between middle linebacker and edge rusher, but Smith it as a collegian, and it should be really interesting to see Dallas resurrect that part of his game, something the Cowboys can do because of the depth Sean Lee and Joe Thomas give them at linebacker.
 

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Jaylon has looked fine to me.

Last season, through the first three games, he had 22 tackles. He has 27 so far this year.

Yeah.. I'm sure he's getting tackles but that's not the point. It's how he looks.

He is overrunning plays and is slow when turning.
 

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This nugget from MMQB.......anyone else notice this


https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/09/23/j...inshew-mmqb-week-3?utm_source=twitter.com&utm

Sleepy Sunday for the Cowboys, but there was an interesting under-the-radar development in their game. The coaches lightened Jaylon Smith’s snap load a little bit, so they could use him as a down pass-rusher in certain spots. There aren’t many players in the NFL who can toggle between middle linebacker and edge rusher, but Smith it as a collegian, and it should be really interesting to see Dallas resurrect that part of his game, something the Cowboys can do because of the depth Sean Lee and Joe Thomas give them at linebacker.

They should use him more as a blitzer and on the edge. I have no issues with this.
 

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Yeah.. I'm sure he's getting tackles but that's not the point. It's how he looks.

He is overrunning plays and is slow when turning.

So he’s having a better statistical year, our defense is giving up fewer points, yet he is somehow doing much worse? Sorry, I don’t see it and I don’t buy it.
 

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LOL at turning this into a Zeke homage.

Hahahahahaha.
Truth EE getting ripped under a microscope every snap and dogged here just because he got his money, dudes playing well, hes being Zeke..

Yet the defensive guys who GOT PAID and some about to, arent playing well at all..odd Quinn the new guy first game as Cowboys not playing since last year, gets sack first game and was pushing the pocket..

Our defense is swiss cheese right now, not pone group playing poorly , the entire team one area always seems to break down..

so yes sticking up for EE because hes not an issue..hater be hatin lol
 

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DT's are chumps. Nothing to do with confidence. The RAMS showed the rest of the NFL the weakness of the Cowboys. OUr DT's. And a guy like Jalyon can get washed out easy on blocks.

it's not completely on the DTs.
Marinelli's system is garbage.
the FO was right to replace Linehan. now they need to replace Marinelli.
it's way too easy to trap Marinelli's DTs. he wants them to pursue pursue pursue. get up field. but that causes problems if that's all they're told to do.
 

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the defense as whole are not playing well...they better tighten it up , bigger games ahead against much better competition, Pre-season ended Sunday..:))
 

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So he’s having a better statistical year, our defense is giving up fewer points, yet he is somehow doing much worse? Sorry, I don’t see it and I don’t buy it.

Yeah you're not seeing it because you aren't paying attention to him. If you were you would see there is an obvious problem with him right now.

He's turning like a sail boat and his positioning at times is awful.
 

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Yeah you're not seeing it because you aren't paying attention to him. If you were you would see there is an obvious problem with him right now.

He's turning like a sail boat and his positioning at times is awful.

I have been paying attention. What's obvious is, for whatever reason, he's the board "scapegoat of the week." Baseless criticism, as highlighted by the fact that no one is pointing to any specific play or stat. I tend to ignore this board when it relies on the "I know what I see" argument.

For crying out loud, 20 of Jaylon's 27 tackles were solo, top three in the NFL. You simply cannot diminish that stat.
 

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I have been paying attention. What's obvious is, for whatever reason, he's the board "scapegoat of the week." Baseless criticism, as highlighted by the fact that no one is pointing to any specific play or stat. I tend to ignore this board when it relies on the "I know what I see" argument.

For crying out loud, 20 of Jaylon's 27 tackles were solo, top three in the NFL. You simply cannot diminish that stat.

i wouldn't say it's baseless criticism and he isn't a scapegoat of anything.
he and LVE haven't played to last year's level yet. i think that's pretty obvious to most everyone.
IMO, they will both be totally fine. they're extremely smart and talented and work hard. it's early in the season. sometimes these things take a little longer year-to-year. nothing to worry about at all yet.
 

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it's way too easy to trap Marinelli's DTs

Absolutely. it drives me crazy in short yardage situations. shouldn't be trying to penetrate or at least not all of them. hold the fort & let the LB's swarm.

we end up just giving them an easy 5 yards.
 

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i wouldn't say it's baseless criticism and he isn't a scapegoat of anything.
he and LVE haven't played to last year's level yet. i think that's pretty obvious to most everyone.
IMO, they will both be totally fine. they're extremely smart and talented and work hard. it's early in the season. sometimes these things take a little longer year-to-year. nothing to worry about at all yet.

Again, POINT TO PLAYS. Stop saying things like "it's obvious." Because so far, Jaylon is having a statistically great year and the D isn't giving up points. You guys are bashing a guy who is top three in solo tackles, the biggest stat for a LB.
 

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DT's are chumps. Nothing to do with confidence. The RAMS showed the rest of the NFL the weakness of the Cowboys. OUr DT's. And a guy like Jalyon can get washed out easy on blocks.

Every team knows our weakness. We are 3-0. Cowboy fans... :laugh:
 

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Didn't look like it the 4 or 5 times I saw the replay. Looked like Jaylon was completely clear and the OL knocked it loose.
Nope, reached and pulled it out with his hand. It was clear on the close-up replay.
 

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IMO, Jaylon's drop foot has never left him. But even with it, he played well last year because he's a good enough athlete to compensate for it.

Jaylon got a big extension because the Jones family wants to keep up the narrative that he was a magnificent draft pick, a top 5 player stolen in the 2nd round, and hey, did any of you guys know that multiple teams have told Jones that they were about to pick him, too? No way he should've gotten that deal. Made zero sense from any standpoint.

Both of them are struggling. LVE looked like one of the best defensive players in the league last year, this year he's the invisible man. Both are tentative, out of position, missing tackles.

That's the Marinelli Effect. Who else could take a DPOY candidate and turn him into a jag?
 

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I have been paying attention. What's obvious is, for whatever reason, he's the board "scapegoat of the week." Baseless criticism, as highlighted by the fact that no one is pointing to any specific play or stat. I tend to ignore this board when it relies on the "I know what I see" argument.

For crying out loud, 20 of Jaylon's 27 tackles were solo, top three in the NFL. You simply cannot diminish that stat.

It's not baseless at all.

Forget his tackles. I'm sure he got a lot of tackles in 2016 too.

It's obvious he is over running plays and is turning like a sail boat. If you're not seeing that then thats on you.

I am diminishing the stat because it means nothing to me. He's not passing the eye test like he did a year ago. He's set a higher standard and if you want to applaud this level of play of his then be my guest but he is nowhere near 2018 Jaylon yet.
 

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It's not baseless at all.

Forget his tackles. I'm sure he got a lot of tackles in 2016 too.

It's obvious he is over running plays and is turning like a sail boat. If you're not seeing that then thats on you.

I am diminishing the stat because it means nothing to me. He's not passing the eye test like he did a year ago. He's set a higher standard and if you want to applaud this level of play of his then be my guest but he is nowhere near 2018 Jaylon yet.

Aw, the "eye test." The rally cry of those on this board without an argument.
 
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