Video: Troy mans up and shows he has the juevos to admit he was wrong

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starfan1

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Beating the Saints would be a start...

Mon, Nov 5
vs Tennessee
L28-14 3-5 Prescott 243 Elliott 61 Cooper 58
10 Sun, Nov 11
@ Philadelphia
W27-20 4-5 Prescott 270 Elliott 151 Cooper 75
11 Sun, Nov 18
@ Atlanta
W22-19 5-5 Prescott 208 Elliott 122 Elliott 79
12 Thu, Nov 22
vs Washington
W31-23 6-5 Prescott 289 Elliott 121 Cooper 180
13 Thu, Nov 29
vs New Orleans
W13-10 7-5 Prescott 249 Elliott 75 Cooper 76
14 Sun, Dec 9
vs Philadelphia
W29-23 OT 8-5 Prescott 455 Elliott 113 Cooper 217
15 Sun, Dec 16
@ Indianapolis
L23-0 8-6 Prescott 206 Elliott 87 Jarwin 45
16 Sun, Dec 23
vs Tampa Bay
W27-20 9-6 Prescott 161 Elliott 85 Gallup 53
17 Sun, Dec 30
@ New York
W36-35 10-6 Prescott 387 Smith 35 Jarwin 119

it started last year and its just continued and please dont tell me the Indy game ans rams game were the only good teams. you got to beat whos in front of you.
 

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I feel like both comments by Troy have been taken out of context and are completely overblown. The first accuracy comment still holds true. It's pretty rare that someone who doesn't have the accuracy of a Rodgers develops it several years after getting into the NFL. What he did say is that his accuracy could improve some with footwork. But he went on to say that what Dak really needed was better anticipation and timing. In the second video he basically says that Dak's footwork and timing have improved and it's all he needed to see from him to make him the QB.

Troy wasn't trashing Dak in the first comment and he wasn't saying he's the best QB in the NFL the second.
Bingo
 

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Well, isn't it just like this site to call someone altering their opinion based on new information "wrong"? That's the problem isn't it? A person can't have an opinion based on experience and the available information, can they?

Why in the hell do you think Aikman made the comment he hasn't seen QB's fix accuracy issues coming into the NFL? And that's what he said, he didn't say Prescott couldn't improve, in fact he said he could, but to what degree? The accuracy issue, for those of you that didn't watch him play at Miss St was why he was picked in the 4th round. He was inconsistent with his accuracy in college and through his 3rd NFL season, he missed QB 101 throws. Too many of them and his ball security under pressure was not good.

He appears to have improved from season 3 to 4 but he was working on this from the get go because he is driven and not just playing for himself. And just because some posters were doubtful about him as a top 5 paid QB doesn't mean they were pulling against him to improve. Does anyone here think a true fan doesn't want a top 10 QB1 for now and the future?

Now, let's see how he plays against better D's because those 3 teams were 3 of the worst and his problems in the past were in a crowded pocket. Let's see if he can adopt his new and improved style and make that instinctive because when it gets crowded, instincts take over.
 

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dak can now throw his receivers open. so there.:)
 

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Those "rankings" are ridiculously stupid.

Guys have been catching touchdown passes with 10 yards of cushion around them.

Jarwin was WIDE open. Cooper and Cobb against the Giants were basically uncovered. Cooper last week was again wide open.
You mention four plays that stood out to you. The league gets its rankings by measuring the separation on every single pass that had a discernible target, and then figuring the average. So their chip data includes the four plays you mentioned, plus Prescott's other 88 targeted throws so far.
 

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that's been the point. the dak lover crowd takes any little criticism of Dak as you are a hater and they look at this as redemption. outside of a few who didn't like Dak, most here pointed to areas he needs to improve, myself included. and if you go back to may posts in the past year and over the summer, I pointed to his bad footwork as main cause of his accuracy issues. I was happy we got Kitna who worked on his fundamentals. and you can clearly see that he has changed his footwork, his release point is much more consistent and he trusts his throws this year, as last year he didn't trust himself in ceitrtain situations.
but hey, Dak lover crowd is going to take this as a criticism and they want redemption....nothing will satisfy them and they will take any little thing that's positively said about Dak as people eating crow....its almost too funny.
it is out tribal nature. ergo, it cannot be helped.
 

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that's been the point. the dak lover crowd takes any little criticism of Dak as you are a hater and they look at this as redemption. outside of a few who didn't like Dak, most here pointed to areas he needs to improve, myself included. and if you go back to may posts in the past year and over the summer, I pointed to his bad footwork as main cause of his accuracy issues. I was happy we got Kitna who worked on his fundamentals. and you can clearly see that he has changed his footwork, his release point is much more consistent and he trusts his throws this year, as last year he didn't trust himself in certain situations.
but hey, Dak lover crowd is going to take this as a criticism and they want redemption....nothing will satisfy them and they will take any little thing that's positively said about Dak as people eating crow....its almost too funny.
It's old arguments that weren't resolved to someone's satisfaction. One poster has a list of the negative things several he's gotten into it with wrote and it's payback time.

Might as well get that done now because none of us know just how this is going to go from this point forward and he is All Pro right now and has Brady concerned about his legacy and Rodgers thinking of faking an injury so he doesn't get shown up next week.

I just do not get it, either side of it. I do not get the love or dislike, the attack or the defense as if these players are relatives. And I actually think it's gotten to the point some would like to see him regress just to get back in someone's face. Just because the team is a reality show at times doesn't mean we have to be one.
 

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You mention four plays that stood out to you. The league gets its rankings by measuring the separation on every single pass that had a discernible target, and then figuring the average. So their chip data includes the four plays you mentioned, plus Prescott's other 88 targeted throws so far.
And how ridiculously dumb does all that sound?
 

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The three defenses Dallas has played have gotten lit up by every offense they've faced. That includes Tampa, Buffalo, Baltimore, Philly, New England, and Chicago.

New Orleans and Green Bay have pretty good defenses. We'll have a much better feel soon.

I don't expect receivers to be running free wide open all game the next two weeks.

I do like that 9 different players have splash plays of 20 yards or more. Makes the Cowboys very hard to gameplan for.

The Patriots opponents are a combined 0-9. I love how you hear nothing about that on ESPN, but they're talking about us.
 

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Several posters here, and we all know who they are, don’t have the balls to admit when they are wrong. But Troy does

Troy was never wrong about Dak and he never admitted being wrong. Because his biggest criticism of Dak was last year https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...ys-dak-prescott-he-needs-to-be-more-accurate/

We now know that if you give Dak a no.1 WR, no.1 TE, and a starting C, he will do what he did but better than 2016. Troy Aiman always had Michael Irvin, Jay Novacek, and either Stepnoski, Ker, or Donaldson in front of him. Do you remember what Troy looked like in 1999 and 2000 without them.

Troy criticized DAK on accuracy in 2018 before the Cooper trade. Next Gen stats showed that his in accuracy was due to team around him (no no.1 WR, no no. 1 TE, and no starting C). So this year he looks like a franchise QB with a whole off season to practice with talent and makes that talent shine on the field.

Aikman also said he wouldn't hesitate to give Prescott an extension in the future.

"I've said it many, many times on this show, I'm a big Dak Prescott fan," Aikman said. "I was really happy for him to see him come out and respond the way he did. I think he has been under a lot of pressure, I think he put a lot of pressure on himself. He acknowledged last week that he needed to do a better job and he did. I think he's still a really young player that came into this league having to learn a lot of different things."

"He did that rather quickly, surprisingly quickly, in his rookie season. I think he's going to continue to improve. I think the great thing about a guy like him, if you invest that kind of money in him, you know what you're going to get. There are some players I think you worry a little bit about once you get the big pay day. But with Dak I know that he'll be even more committed to being great and helping this team win a championship. I certainly wouldn't hesitate to pay him, but I think the longer you can hold that off just to be certain of your evaluations, I don't see anything wrong with that either."

Aikman was critical of Prescott's accuracy earlier in the 2018 season, but has always maintained his affinity for the Cowboys' third-year quarterback.
 

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Troy was never wrong about Dak and he never admitted being wrong. Because his biggest criticism of Dak was last year https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...ys-dak-prescott-he-needs-to-be-more-accurate/

We now know that if you give Dak a no.1 WR, no.1 TE, and a starting C, he will do what he did but better than 2016. Troy Aiman always had Michael Irvin, Jay Novacek, and either Stepnoski, Ker, or Donaldson in front of him. Do you remember what Troy looked like in 1999 and 2000 without them.

Troy criticized DAK on accuracy in 2018 before the Cooper trade. Next Gen stats showed that his in accuracy was due to team around him (no no.1 WR, no no. 1 TE, and no starting C). So this year he looks like a franchise QB with a whole off season to practice with talent and makes that talent shine on the field.
It’s a combination of things but most important of them all is Dak’s continued extreme desire to work on his craft and continually developing his game. Having good WR’s and a great running game accelerates the progress to what you’re seeing now. And he will continue to work on his game so we haven’t seen his limit and won’t for a couple or 3 more years.
 

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Main thing I see from Dak is he is making his read and getting the ball out quickly. I think his biggest issue has been hesitation in getting rid of the ball. When you hesitate you tend to put the ball behind the WR as the timing of the rout is altered. Dak just looks a lot more comfortable in the offense and is getting the ball out quicker
He’s also improved his foot work and changed his throwing motion.
 

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Definitely, but the knee-jerk right now is out of control.

Can we please beat a team that will win more than five games before we anoint this team?
You’re here every week with the buh, buh, butts.
 

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Chips in players' shoulder pads measure distances, then the league publishes the data.

Sounds pretty cool if you ask me.
Doesn't measure down and distance.

Doesn't consider the score at the time, or the amount of time left.

Doesn't measure who the primary receiver was.

Doesn't measure where the blitz is coming from or the time to throw.

Doesn't measure zone versus man versus man/zone mixes.

You can't statistically measure football. There are just too many variables to consider.

Case in point: Roger Staubach had about an 82 QB rating. At the time, that was the highest rating in NFL history. Now, that would get him released, or least benched. But when you watched him, you knew you were seeing as a great of a QB as there is in the game even today.
 
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