I almost felt sorry for Garrett

[Ranching]

So, execution by the players has nothing to do with it?

We see the OC and QB up against a real team and the HC gets the blame? Some are actually blaming him for the offense last night? So what do you think happened, the Joneses got tired of seeing success and told Garrett to stop Moore and his antics?

At what point do posters consider their lofty opinions were based on the really bad teams that they played with MIA and WAS fighting for the top pick? They played a tough team last night in their stadium and the Saints defense is better this year and they stuffed the Cowboys #1 weapon and that's the HC's fault?

I am not a Garrett fan but that was a team loss last night against a team on the same level with the Cowboys. If that game is played in Dallas, maybe that's reversed but those fans had been ready for that game for quite some time and their players feed off the energy created by their fans. Good teams lose there all the time.

I never blamed Garrett, I said I feel bad for him because he doesnt look like has has any authority. At what point does the head coach not get the blame. Any HC worth his salt steps up and take the blame, whether it's his fault or not.

 

[SlammedZero]

There is something about his energy and the way he is carrying himself this season. I think he knows the writing that is on the wall. He almost comes across as if he is just riding out the season and is just showing up for his job.

 

[Ranching]

By the way, people keep talking about Moore, but Dak AUDIBLED plenty and kept going underneath.

That's where Moore should step in and not let Dak audible. Moore will be fine, growing pains. its only his 4th game. this is where a HC should have stepped in and helped. I just don't think Jerry is allowing that.

 

[CouchCoach]

I never blamed Garrett, I said I feel bad for him because he doesnt look like has has any authority. At what point does the head coach not get the blame. Any HC worth his salt steps up and take the blame, whether it's his fault or not.

Could not agree with that more, I am not a fan of his but I don't know the level of his involvement in that game. Like you and the others, I do not know what he does during the games but he does get 375K to stand there every game. I can do that. I can yell at refs better than he does because I do that from the couch.

And since Kellen the Young had become the toast of the NFL, I wonder if he had even more free reign from the Joneses. They would like nothing better than showing off on SNF.

Booger wants an image HC that knows how to stay out of the way and that's what he's got.

 

[khiladi]

People don’t realize the last two games we struggled offensively, until the THIRD quarter. Dak was 9 for 21 going into the second half against Miami. Last night, the successful drive was when Moore went up-tempo and it slowed the pass rush. That led to Jarwin getting wide open on the play-action.

 

[OmerV]

Moore is a rookie, a good HC would take over playcalling or at least dictate the pace of the game. I dont think Garrett could do that, even if he wanted to.

I don't recall it being a practice with any team for a head coach that isn't a coordinator to yank play calling away from the coordinator in the middle of a game and call plays himself. To suggest that is applying a different standard to the Cowboys and Garrett than to other teams and head coaches. Besides, Garrett isn't exactly prepared for that given that he hasn't called plays in 5-6 years. The reality is it is a long season and there are going to be tough games, and a team would not be preparing itself for long term success by giving up on a coordinator whenever he faces a challenge. The goal is to have him face the challenge head on and fight through it.

 

[Praxit]

My question is, who kidnapped Kellen Moore and replaced him with Scott Linehan?

The offense played the entire game not to lose, but here we are...

..Did you watch Pat/Bill game yesterday? Pats being as creative as they are with Daniels. The Bills made them look avg, with 9 punts and 1 TD. Im just saying, sometimes yer number is called and your just not ready for it.

 

[CouchCoach]

There is something about his energy and the way he is carrying himself this season. I think he knows the writing that is on the wall. He almost comes across as if he is just riding out the season and is just showing up for his job.

I see the same thing and even went further than that in the off season, I am not sure he doesn't want out.

Any man can take a bullet for someone else for just so long and Booger had no problem with Owens calling Garrett out when he was OC and no problem sending the message Moore can come to him if he has any resisitance.

Coach isn't blaming him but plenty are and he got 0 credit for the 3-0 start. That was all Moore.

If I am Garrett, I am looking at all of the openings coming up after this season beginning with WAS.

 

[visionary]

He looked like a neutered cat on the sideline. Every time they showed him, he had a blank look on his face. I guess Jerry has taken all of his authority. He wore a headset, but I never saw him talking to anyone. He yelled at the refs a couple of times, that about all I saw him do. It would be nice to have a real head coach that can take over a game when he needs to.

He’s getting paid handsomely to be a spineless jellyfish and is happy to do it

I don’t feel sorry for the ginger clapper

 

[visionary]

I see the same thing and even went further than that in the off season, I am not sure he doesn't want out.

Any man can take a bullet for someone else for just so long and Booger had no problem with Owens calling Garrett out when he was OC and no problem sending the message Moore can come to him if he has any resisitance.

Coach isn't blaming him but plenty are and he got 0 credit for the 3-0 start. That was all Moore.

If I am Garrett, I am looking at all of the openings coming up after this season beginning with WAS.

I would love it if Washington hires this doofus

 

[khiladi]

He’s getting paid handsomely to be a spineless jellyfish and is happy to do it

I don’t feel sorry for the ginger clapper

And thrown plenty of people under the bus along the way. The Garrett family has been rewarded immensely by Jerry Jones for their mediocrity.

 

[gmb1]

Garrett feeling bad is a good thing. Nearly a decade of haunting the sidelines he deserves it. Personally I am glad he is completely exposed as a poor game managing coach.

I thought icing his own kicker several years ago exposed him. I guess we needed more evidence.

 

[Ranching]

I don't recall it being a practice with any team for a head coach that isn't a coordinator to yank play calling away from the coordinator in the middle of a game and call plays himself. To suggest that is applying a different standard to the Cowboys and Garrett than to other teams and head coaches. Besides, Garrett isn't exactly prepared for that given that he hasn't called plays in 5-6 years. The reality is it is a long season and there are going to be tough games, and a team would not be preparing itself for long term success by giving up on a coordinator whenever he faces a challenge. The goal is to have him face the challenge head on and fight through it.

I always had control of the play calling. I approved every game plan, offense, defense and ST's. It was my team and every play called had my blessing. I always had complete authority to change plays and personnel in all of my 140ish games coached as a HC. I'm sure coaches like Jimmy, Belichek, Parcells etc had the same authority.

 

[glimmerman]

The D had something to say about that. It's not all on what the Cowboys didn't do, they weren't playing one of those patsies like in the first 3 games.

I am seeing a general overreaction to what was revealed last night and will probably be further revealed with real competition as we progress through this season. In order for Moore to be Wunderkind, his QB needs the run game and a cleaner pocket. DC's are not going to give them that going forward.

We knew there would be bumps and some thought this would just roll along and that was Kellen Moore's official welcome to the NFL last night. Good to get this "it doesn't always go according to plan" in the 4th game to prepare him for more adversity. And good to get the players' heads out of the clouds and back in the game, going to be more like that.

Playcalling reminded me of Linehan. Just line up and run the same plays. No tosses or sweeps. I didnt see any deep shots taken. But not that Dak would have had the time to throw it. I think going forward teams will use this as a template to play The Cowboys but not all will have the players to pull it off. Looked to me like the Offense had a big ego coming in. Elliot will break one or Dak will make a play no big deal. Our O-Line didn’t seem to be getting to the second level blocking. A few fumbles on what looked like potential scoring drives. The clock at the end of the first half gave the saints a fg attempt. But they got beat plain and simple. No excuses.

 

[Idgit]

Yeah, this didn’t happen, either. It’s fun to pretend sometimes, though.

 

[links18]

Nope, that doesn't work. You can't reasonably decide Garrett has nothing to do with the offense when it successful, and he is the one pulling the strings when it's not. Well, I guess you can if you aren't concerned about fairness or logic and the goal is only to turn whatever happens into an indictment of one guy.

Last night's performance had Carrot-head written all over it.

 

[Dallasfann]

Moron??? you're a frikin idiot if thats what you took out of OP.

I'm not calling the OP or anyone a moron individually. What I'm saying is if you are gonna praise Moore and give him all the credit for having a good first 3 games. Then turn around and instantly blame Garrett for exactly what you were praising Moore for after 1 bad offensive showing then yes, you are 100% undoubtedly a moron. Also, I was agreeing with what Omar said that Tommy had quoted on the first page.

 

[Ranching]

I'm not calling the OP or anyone a moron individually. What I'm saying is if you are gonna praise Moore and give him all the credit for having a good first 3 games. Then turn around and instantly blame Garrett for exactly what you were praising Moore for after 1 bad offensive showing then yes, you are 100% undoubtedly a moron. Also, I was agreeing with what Omar said that Tommy had quoted on the first page.

Well, agreeing with Omer is the real problem!! LOL!

 

[Ranching]

Yeah, this didn’t happen, either. It’s fun to pretend sometimes, though.

In all seriousness, didn't Garrett look out of it last night? I really felt bad for him.

 

[OmerV]

I always had control of the play calling. I approved every game plan, offense, defense and ST's. It was my team and every play called had my blessing. I always had complete authority to change plays and personnel in all of my 140ish games coached as a HC. I'm sure coaches like Jimmy, Belichek, Parcells etc had the same authority.

At what level? High School and the NFL are very different.

As for having the authority to take over the play calling, that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the wisdom of a head coach using the authority to relieve a coordinator of play calling duties in the middle of a game and personally taking over that role. I'm not aware of Jimmy or Belichick doing that. You don't make a coach an NFL coordinator without the expectation there will be tough games for him to deal with, and without trusting him to handle adversity. And Garrett has to be smart enough to know that being 5-6 years removed from calling plays himself he was not in the best position to take over the duties mid game anyway.