Dak, proves he's average. Needs to be paid so **merged**

superonyx

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To be fair, there was a whole lot of crowing and calling out the Dak haters after three great starts. Even when the so-called Dak haters said wait until better competition, the Dak supporters weren't hearing it. There were call-out posts in abundance. And you could tell - or at least I could - that when Dak faltered, the tables would reverse.

So I say turnabout is fair play. If you're going to call people out after three great performances against weaker teams, be ready to get called out when Dak doesn't do well against a good team.
So actual football logic and facts shouldnt matter?
I guess this place has deteriorated to the point where people can no longer have logical football discussions and instead can only troll each other.

What you said is sad. Especially considering we are all fans of the same team.
 

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Dak should know that running Zeke straight up the middle and on first downs a lot were not that effective against the Saints. At least audible to try sweeps, counters, tosses, and/or RPOs.

He should also have audible to call plays that allow him to showcase his abilities against a not so good secondary. And take shots down the field if he had man coverage.
 

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Every game Dak is this, that, or the other. :rolleyes:

Dak has a good game = See? Told you! Pay the man!
Dak has a poor game = See? Told you! Dak sucks!

The fact is the Joneses have made it clear they want Dak to be their QB for the foreseeable future, for better or worse. Whether or not you or I would make that decision is irrelevant, so as a fan of the team I hope it proves to be the right decision.

But these weekly conclusions about what he is or isn't are just silly, agenda-driven nonsense. No one cares about your agenda, except you.
 

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So actual football logic and facts shouldnt matter?
I guess this place has deteriorated to the point where people can no longer have logical football discussions and instead can only troll each other.

What you said is sad. Especially considering we are all fans of the same team.

This place deteriorated long before this. Some choose to forget when Romo, with a porous line, would create magic out of nothing, singlehandedly willing this team to victory and finishing top 5 at his position year after year against Real defenses......but the Romo" Realists" would excoriate him on Monday because he would throw an interception after throwing 5 TD passes........yeah, we haven't forgotten and wont stop critiquing Mr. Mediocre
 

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So actual football logic and facts shouldnt matter?
I guess this place has deteriorated to the point where people can no longer have logical football discussions and instead can only troll each other.

What you said is sad. Especially considering we are all fans of the same team.
Nobody has said that at all. The issue is a good majority of these threads were created with an ulterior motive to take shots at select posters. Some of those posters stuck through it and here they are giving it back. Some of those posters also disappeared and are now coming out the cuts.
 

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Dak had a chance last night to beat a backup. He always says he welcomes the challenge.

If you want an elite status you have to win a game like last nights game against a backup scrub.

Is 13 to much to ask from the great one?
Winning games against backup scrubs is elite now?
Dak is superstitious and 13 pts was not a option..:eek:...got beat by a back-up and then they dare to compare him to Brady and Mahomes LOL
I'll compare him to somebody else...
This place deteriorated long before this. Some choose to forget when Romo, with a porous line, would create magic out of nothing, singlehandedly willing this team to victory and finishing top 5 at his position year after year against Real defenses......but the Romo" Realists" would excoriate him on Monday because he would throw an interception after throwing 5 TD passes........yeah, we haven't forgotten and wont stop critiquing Mr. Mediocre
Since he was brought up in a thread that coincidentally gets on Dak for not beating a backup here we are. 2013 against Greenday we lost a game by 1 point after leading 26-3 at the half. Matt Flynn did that **** assisted by Romo throwing picks to end our final two possessions. I'm just glad to know beating backups makes you elite. Seriously thank you @black label I truly didn't know. Now that we know Romo isn't elite I hope some of you finally found closure.
 

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Who did they play the first 3 games? I don't want to interfere with your paper tiger assessments, but Prescott has got to show that he can deliver the goods whenever he DOESN'T have ten seconds to get the ball going to the right place accurately and with anticipation. Until he does that, at least in my opinion, he simply isn't worth what talking heads are saying he should get.

The Dallas Cowboys have fooled me for the last time with their jocular, Jekyll and Hyde act. The zombie offense was supposed to be a thing of the past, but what did we see in New Orleans? Some really funky football against a team they should've beaten. Like I've said before, the list of who to blame for this vacillating, vaudevillian-challenged construction should be really frigging short following Sunday night.
He had the 4th best Total QBR for this week.

It isn't his fault the rest of the team didnt show up.
 

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Nobody has said that at all. The issue is a good majority of these threads were created with an ulterior motive to take shots at select posters. Some of those posters stuck through it and here they are giving it back. Some of those posters also disappeared and are now coming out the cuts.
My original post was to say that last weekends game performance being blamed on any 1 player is showing either a lack of understanding of this sport or is an obvious troll attempt was replied to by someone who said the “call out” as he put it threads and post are fair because of back and forth troll wars. This is a sad commentary about this place.

We have a population of posters around here that get their rocks off on trolling other cowboys fans to the point they are happy when their team or a player on their team fails to perform just so they can troll back at other fans.

now I am not saying everyone is this way. Some guys will stay away from this forum due to this childish trolling.

If you are someone who doubted Dak or Zeke or Cooper and they are playing amazing you should enjoy that. Enjoy being wrong. When whatever player has a bad game you should not enjoy creating over reaction post or threads with a childish “told you so” mentality.

maybe it’s boring for some of these trolls but a fan forum should contain more logical football talk and less trolling. Join the Eagles board if you want to troll someone. We are all on the same team.
 

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Dak is an above average QB.

But by all means carry on.
Better watch what you say you might be labeled, in all seriousness, Dak has had 3 great games, this game wasn't as bad as some make it out but not great, not sure why folks don't get that Dak will be here for many years unless he flat out falls apart and that I do not see so him making big strides is a good thing . I think what drives some is it's all Dak when he wins when there's a loss it becomes everyone else's fault. If Daks norm becomes the first 3 games all is well.
 

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He might be average against the more Elite teams but he plays at a high level against the worse teams.

I’d schedule more bottom feeder teams. Ha

As poorly as we played we still were in it until final drive.

Good news is we can still hang with the more Elite teams even if we lose some of them. And why we’ll pay Dak.
 

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Don't say it's one game.

He beat up and bullied easy teams. As soon as a real big dog comes around, he bends and folds.

I been saying we better not handicap ourselves to this fool.

I hope you all see it now.

If Dak is average that means you'd take 15 QBs over him. List them

Don't chicken out
 

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If Dak is average that means you'd take 15 QBs over him. List them

Don't chicken out


Brady
Rodgers
Mayfield
Jackson Lamar
Rivers
Wentz
Cousins
Mariota
Garoppolo
Goff
Watson
Wilson
Ryan
Stafford
Mahomes

I'll take of the above over # 4 in a gridiron heartbeat!
 

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Brady
Rodgers
Mayfield
Jackson Lamar
Rivers
Wentz
Cousins
Mariota
Garoppolo
Goff
Watson
Wilson
Ryan
Stafford
Mahomes

I'll take of the above over # 4 in a gridiron heartbeat!

:omg::laugh::lmao::lmao2::facepalm:


I hope you stretched before all those reaches
 

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Don't say it's one game.

He beat up and bullied easy teams. As soon as a real big dog comes around, he bends and folds.

I been saying we better not handicap ourselves to this fool.

I hope you all see it now.


I'm not with you on this yet - yes he missed the TD throw to Cobb but lets be honset. Just because Dak has been perfect the 1st 3 games doesnt mean he is perfect and no QB in the NFL is.

Rodgers (considered by many as the best QB) didnt look great against the Eagles at home and threw the game ending pick in the endzone. He missed passes during his game. I dont see anyone criticizing him.

In my opinion Dak deserves some of the blame like everyone on the team but if I was weighing the blame, he would probably be the least person I would blame.
 

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Better watch what you say you might be labeled, in all seriousness, Dak has had 3 great games, this game wasn't as bad as some make it out but not great, not sure why folks don't get that Dak will be here for many years unless he flat out falls apart and that I do not see so him making big strides is a good thing . I think what drives some is it's all Dak when he wins when there's a loss it becomes everyone else's fault. If Daks norm becomes the first 3 games all is well.
That’s always been my problem with the Dak fans. First three games it’s all about him when it’s good but as soon as it’s a loss it’s what about Zeke, the o line, coaching, etc. I’m good with him getting props for the first 3 games but when he doesn’t have his best game for whatever reason he should be called out too unlessnits obvious he did his thing and others were to blame for real. This game doesn’t fit that example to me.
 

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Don't say it's one game.

He beat up and bullied easy teams. As soon as a real big dog comes around, he bends and folds.

I been saying we better not handicap ourselves to this fool.

I hope you all see it now.
Just curious. Last year when the team won 7 out of 8, were all those easy teams?
 

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That’s always been my problem with the Dak fans. First three games it’s all about him when it’s good but as soon as it’s a loss it’s what about Zeke, the o line, coaching, etc. I’m good with him getting props for the first 3 games but when he doesn’t have his best game for whatever reason he should be called out too unless its obvious he did his thing and others were to blame for real. This game doesn’t fit that example to me.
It works both ways, there are some that when he has a great game they have problems with it. Sad parts is the crowing of greatness starts then the poor game and the other side starts crowing he sucks there is really no middle ground, and like many mention Dak is the QB for the foreseeable future, there are some real diehard both sides of the spectrum and it's sad but it is a fun read at times. If he gets the credit for wins he should shoulder the blame for a loss and I am 100 % sure he would support that ideal.
 

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Its wasn't a great game from Dak, however the biggest inefficiency we had Sunday night was our oline and running game. Dak was consistently put in bad spots. I will blame him for not overcoming that more, but he is well below the oline, Zeke, Kellen Moore and the wrs when playing the blame game vs Saints.

Our game plan in a hostile environment did not work, plain and simple. We tried to control the clock and force Zeke down their throats. They answered the call and our passing game became secondary. We never adjusted.
 

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Everyone knew the Dak haters would resurface once he had a bad game. No surprise there at all. Everyone also called it when they said the Dak memes would come back after a bad game. One thing you can say with certainty, Dak haters never miss their cue, and they never disappoint. The one question I have is... last year, when the Cowboys beat the Saints, and Brees went 18-28 for 127 yds, 1TD 1INT, while Dak went 24-28 for 249 yds, 1TD, did the Saints fans call Brees a scrub who lost to an inferior Dak? Probably not. Or did the Saints fans call Kamara a scrub because he had 11 carries for 36 yds while Zeke had 23 carries for 75 yds? Once again, I am guessing no. My point is this... bad games happen. Unfortunately, there are some posters on this site who wait for a loss, so they can rush on here selling doom and gloom while trying to advance their own agenda. Trying to convince them of anything but Dak sucks, is likely impossible. Why? The mind doesn’t follow the facts. Facts are stubborn things, but our minds are even more stubborn. Opinions very rarely change, no matter how credible and convincing the facts might be. Why is this? It’s because we tend to undervalue evidence that contradicts our beliefs and overvalue evidence that confirms them. We filter out inconvenient truths and arguments on the opposing side. As a result, our opinions solidify, and it becomes increasingly harder to disrupt established patterns of thinking. So, in short... Dak haters are going to hate every chance they get and Dak supporters are going to prop him up every chance they get.
PS. Nice meme pappydog. I guess you couldn't use the one with the o-line and Zeke pulling Dak along, since they both stunk up the joint as well.
 
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