Jerry Jones Seemingly Blames Jason Garrett for Cowboys Loss

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I just think we lost all momentum when we allowed the Saints a 9 minute FG drive on the next possession. That gave their defense plenty of time to adjust to our halftime adjustments. But some of it was just execution. We had the ball with over 6 minutes left needing only a FG. Dak makes a nice pass to Cooper for 9 yards on first down and then our 100 million dollar rb loses a yard on second down........ we have got to convert 2and 1.

Why don't you include the big money OL in your criticism? They were god awful the other night. Putrid. Opened zero holes. Dak was never comfortable in the pocket. I don't care who your RB is. No RB was running with how poor that OL played.
 

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i am so disgusted and thoroughly tired of Garretts post game or later in week interviews after an abysmal loss like we had against Saints..same same same crap comes out of his mouth...we did some good things we were just not consitent enough...so so tired of that crap...take ownership Garrett..team got stuffed ...you got stuffed and you did little to rectify a plan that was not working....he has done this over and over and over...so hard headed to his plan if it dont work...as though its impossibility to make adustments...i know i am venting big time....but its happened so many times....until it gets so bad we do somehting about it...why not be prepared before hand if they stop your game plan???

And you will have people who will always say "it's just one loss". Nope. The loss is not the big issue for me. We aren't going 16-0. Losses will happen. It is the constant groundhog day with a Garrett led team that frustrates me. No adjustments at all. Constantly doing the same thing over and over and hoping it works as usual.
 

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Why don't you include the big money OL in your criticism? They were god awful the other night. Putrid. Opened zero holes. Dak was never comfortable in the pocket. I don't care who your RB is. No RB was running with how poor that OL played.

It wasn't the whole OL. It was basically Freddy and Connor who were getting whipped. I wrote plenty on it. But you can't argue Zeke has been good since his return either. He had a really bad game sunday night including a critical fumble and several failed short yardage attempts.
 

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You’re assuming Jerry’s #1 priority is winning which he’s proved that’s not the case or he’d of stepped aside years ago.

Jerry’s only interested in winning his way. And a HC like Garrett is his way. Theres not enough room in Big D for an ego bigger than Jerry. That’s always going to be the Cowboys biggest hurdle to overcome.
Die hard---- that was a depressing and hopeless answer...but true
 

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No really. Saints game was a perfect example of this. Our run game was not effective yet Saints were still playing their defense to stop the run. Because they knew we would still run.

Had we used this against them by running more PA and/or RPO, we would have done much better on offense.

I don't think PA or Rpo would have worked. The saints DLine was blasting through Dallas. The saints would have blown up anything.
 

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And you will have people who will always say "it's just one loss". Nope. The loss is not the big issue for me. We aren't going 16-0. Losses will happen. It is the constant groundhog day with a Garrett led team that frustrates me. No adjustments at all. Constantly doing the same thing over and over and hoping it works as usual.
bingo---that is what thoroughly infuriates me...if you lose go down swinging exhausting your resources...one stretch...7 out of 8 first downs we ran zeke on first down and only one was successful.....that is 1000% on Garrett..why?..because to that point Saints stats said they were lousy against the run..so Garrett locked into his conservative "try not to lose" game plan...we have all seen this movie so many times..just on that alone...just that he must be fired...nothing can erase it for me...even a superbowl wont erase it because he will do it again....Garrett's mindset is to play the numbers and play it safe...its correct...i disregard anyone who attempts to say its only one loss...its the way we lost and have lost that way so many times before...remember 2017 that 3 game stretch where we coudl not score more than 10 points and our opponents averaged 30....and 2 of those games we were actually leading or tied going into halftime..no adustments no game plan
 

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I don't think PA or Rpo would have worked. The saints DLine was blasting through Dallas. The saints would have blown up anything.

I just watched All-22 and I totally disagree. They could have RPOed and ran off the edges for much better gains than trying to run between the tackles. All the Saints fronts seven were crashing hard toward the LOS. We should have attacked the edges and tried to have them defend side line to side line. That's how Houston ran and was able to run well against the Saints. Even with their crappy OL and RBs.
And we were 6 out of 7 with PA. Games biggest plays came off of PA. We were having success with it. We should have ran more PA.
 

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Is there anybody on the planet that thinks Jason Garrett is even in the same zip code as Sean Payton when it comes to coaching and schemes?

Like is this really news?
 

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Is there anybody on the planet that thinks Jason Garrett is even in the same zip code as Sean Payton when it comes to coaching and schemes?

Like is this really news?
What is this... "news"?
 

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You’re assuming Jerry’s #1 priority is winning which he’s proved that’s not the case or he’d of stepped aside years ago.

Jerry’s only interested in winning his way. And a HC like Garrett is his way. Theres not enough room in Big D for an ego bigger than Jerry. That’s always going to be the Cowboys biggest hurdle to overcome.

Good point Diehard, if Jerry really cared about winning Garrett would have been fired years ago and a legit HC would have replaced him. Problem is that a legit HC would get too much credit over Jerry and that is a no no.

Like you said, Jerry wants to win only if Jerry gets the credit for the team winning. If Jerry doesn't get the credit, then winning is not really worth it.
 

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Good point Diehard, if Jerry really cared about winning Garrett would have been fired years ago and a legit HC would have replaced him. Problem is that a legit HC would get too much credit over Jerry and that is a no no.

Like you said, Jerry wants to win only if Jerry gets the credit for the team winning. If Jerry doesn't get the credit, then winning is not really worth it.

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Play action is set up by the run. If you can’t run, play action isn’t effective.

LOL it is. However, the Saints were bent on stopping our run. Yet we kept trying to run it well into the 4th quarter. When something doesn't work you don't keep doing it over and over hoping to get a different result.
 

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At what point would you give the Saints more credit than placing blame on Cowboys?

I still place blame on Garrett. Coaching lost the game. When running the ball up the middle was your game plan and you lose. Then we all know who to blame for such a crummy gameplan.
 

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I don't see Jerry as wanting credit over any coach let alone Garrett. Jerry is a marketer at heart as well as owner and GM. And over the past several years he has not even been the prolific spokesman he used to be. The fact that Garrett has been around so long is because Jerry wants continuity at the position and believes Garrett will keep evolving and get better. If we recall Jerry was heavily criticized in the past for yanking head coaches too soon. Garrett comes from a football family and his dad was a scout for the Cowboys was he not? Garrett took Associated Press Coach of the Year honors in 2016. So the guy does have head coaching ability and knows how to rally players around him.

That stated Garrett has made questionable decisions in games throughout his tenure so he is not perfect. And that includes supporting certain coaching decisions. But in all fairness its been only several years since the Cowboys have been getting acquisitions and drafting right thanks in part to Will McClay. So this epic long drawn journey back to team eliteness including through Garrett's tenure to date falls squarely on Jerry and Stephen. Both are good but not great in their roles as Owner/GM and Chief Operating Officer/Executive VP of Player Personnel respectively.
 

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I still place blame on Garrett. Coaching lost the game. When running the ball up the middle was your game plan and you lose. Then we all know who to blame for such a crummy gameplan.
Really. We gave credit to Moore in our wins but blame Garrett for our loss?

I’d argue the Saints defensive scheme and execution to shut down our running game forcing Dak and our passing game to win was the difference along with two crucial fumbles.

We attempted to adjust coming out of halftime with our only TD drive but we never had possession again in 3rd qtr after Saints impressive possession which spilled over into 4th qtr.

The bottom line for whatever reason is our offense isn’t effective when Elliott is held under 75 yards as we are 1-8. One aspect we can point to is it appears a proven method or scheme against us defensively to stack the line shutting down Elliott forcing Dak to beat them over the top.

Now whether the results are on Daks inability to overcome this obstacle or our own play calling and schemes. This is an arguable subject but the results aren’t. And why defenses will continue this scheme.
 
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LOL it is. However, the Saints were bent on stopping our run. Yet we kept trying to run it well into the 4th quarter. When something doesn't work you don't keep doing it over and over hoping to get a different result.
That’s because our history has proven that if we can’t produce on the ground our offense isn’t as effective.

I’m not defending our attempt to continue forging ahead. I’m just calling it out for what it is.
 

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I don't think PA or Rpo would have worked. The saints DLine was blasting through Dallas. The saints would have blown up anything.
No they wouldn't have, not if we'd utilized more roll-out's /bootlegs & quick short slant passes to the fullback/ blocking #2 T.E.,,,it'd styimed the crease in there casing--liner right quickly ( you know don'cha? That the brilliant mind of K "the HAMMER" M ,,,merely, employed the Soviet Russian Gen.Zukov's( WW11) early season smoke screen of retreating defeat on these N.O. hoser's post season horizon plans, by showing them just the past wars gameplans from the" Gen. Ludendorf" GARRETT'S scheme,,,er,,, which never has proved successful when it counted, like winning the big one& not playing to lose( like WW 1)o_O
 
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