Twitter: Since 2017, Dak is 5-9 vs winning teams

Ken

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But again, surely you will acknowledge that he's looked great in three games this year against some really bad defenses and not so good in his two games against better opponents, right?

Now one may argue that is me trying to skew the stats but I think it's fair to acknowledge performances against bad teams and good teams, right?
It's his body of work for the season thus far. Same as everyone else in the league. Some games are easier than others.

That is the reality...while everyone is bashing the guy...it seems ridiculous when you look at what he has done so far.
 

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When talking about other QBs that have losing records against winning teams, outsiders generally state right away that the problem isn’t the QB, but the trash roster.

When people look at the Cowboys, they generally look immediately at Dak as the weak link.

You’re right. The head coach and the defense that can’t stop the run, rush the passer or force turnovers aren’t ever looked at as a problem.
 

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When talking about other QBs that have losing records against winning teams, outsiders generally state right away that the problem isn’t the QB, but the trash roster.

When people look at the Cowboys, they generally look immediately at Dak as the weak link.
:hammer::hammer:


All off-season, the media and homers said this is the best roster Dallas has had since the SB team, yet Dakota cant beat a good team to save his life. Damn
 

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You’re right. The head coach and the defense that can’t stop the run, rush the passer or force turnovers aren’t ever looked at as a problem.
Man stop just stop


Yall run in here giggling about Dak’s W/L record but when he is blamed for the L, yall wanna blame the defense and or garrett.

The defense sucks but they gave up 12 points last week and we still lost. Do they have to pitch a shut-out for Dakota to win?
 

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You’re right. The head coach and the defense that can’t stop the run, rush the passer or force turnovers aren’t ever looked at as a problem.

by outsiders, nope. And when we are talking about the performance on OFFENSE, they clearly point to Dak. Because they see the speed of Cooper and Gallup on the outside, a top ranked OL and a premiere RB who is now obviously facing the effects of having to carry such a huge workload over a one read QB.

All throughout the beginning of the year, we’ve heard how Dallas undefeated at home ever since getting Cooper.
 

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It's his body of work for the season thus far. Same as everyone else in the league. Some games are easier than others.

That is the reality...while everyone is bashing the guy...it seems ridiculous when you look at what he has done so far.

Absolutely, but you will also acknowledge that if this team wants to make the postseason and make noise in the post season, Dak certainly has to play better than he has against the Saints and Packers, right? I think that's why it's somewhat valid to look at his stats thus far with some skepticism. If he goes out and beats up a bad Jets team and then struggles again at home against Philly, surely that won't be a good thing, right?
 

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What if Amari didn't drop that ball and scored the touchdown?

The Dak hate after that game is astronomically stupid. He wasn't great, but you can only blame 1 INT on him. Like Tony, he's playing on a team that actively hurts his chances.

Great analogy. Who would think that we would hold Rodgers to no passing TD's and give up 4 rushing TD's.....

Couple that with a D that let the game get away from us and its surprising we made a game of it.
 

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Not sure why you guys struggle with the fact that both Prescott and Cooper were a problem on that play. If Prescott throws that to Cooper in stride, and if it was dropped, it doesn't deflect back to the corner - it drops to the ground.

There is no good reason to leave Prescott out of the fault here unless it's bias. I'm the one who brought up Coopers drops just a week ago (which most of you wanted to ignore as oopsie whoopsies), so there is no bias here for me. An inaccurate or a QB that lacks precision throwing passes to Mr. Drops a lot will lead to bad outcomes.

Both are a problem and both at this stage in their careers will most likely not fix their flaws. It is what it is.
Goodness dude, now Dak has to throw a certain ball in case the receiver drops it...... That pick was 100 percent Cooper's fault and anybody saying different is a fool or hater. The other 2 you can put all the blame on Dak but not that first one. That's a very catchable ball that hit both hands in his chest area, no excuse why he didn't catch it.
 

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Here’s the thing Willie.

I get it. I would love a Tom Brady or Brees or Russell Wilson too.

So what’s the solution to find one of them?

Say the cowboys let Dak walk this off-season. What’s the gameplan to replace him?

We have to be realistic too. Even if the cowboys draft a first round QB. There’s still a coin flip chance they won’t even be as good as Dak. And about only a 20% chance they’ll be better than Dak.

The names you’re talking about are like the top 5 QB’s in the entire league. You know how many QB’s have been drafted in the first round since Brady and Brees and guys like that got into the league?
You at least try to find a QB. You dont sit around wasting time with a QB who isnt good enough.

The Chiefs had Dak’s dad at QB and went to the playoffs, yet they knew they couldnt win with him and traded up for Mahomes the next offseason.
 

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I love these stats that are "since X year". Which is cherry picking at the finest. Why not add since 2016? Oh yeah that is right...
 

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This is awfully nitpicky - and I'm guilty of that too, with Dak. We could sit here and say that a little more touch and a little more to the middle of the field would be a better throw, but it's a pointless discussion because it's a catch you expect every NFL WR to make. It's a drop and that's it - and it changed the entire complexion of the game.
Not being nitpicky especially since this is a common issue with him. He consitantly throws a tad behind the receiver causing the receiver to either slow down or adjust on the run. I did say it was Cooper's fault and pointed out the throws he made on point. My point with Dak if he is ever going to be elite those throws need to be in the majority of a game vs a few in a game. I've said this for years I've said this since his rookie year. He has the same issues now he did coming out of college. Either way while the play would have been big I doubt the end score would have changed. The entire team came out flat and unispired. My dog even got up and left it was so obvious. That I put on Red.
 

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When talking about other QBs that have losing records against winning teams, outsiders generally state right away that the problem isn’t the QB, but the trash roster.

When people look at the Cowboys, they generally look immediately at Dak as the weak link.
So true except the delusional dakhards here
 

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And while I’ve been criticizing Garrett since 2008, Jerry effectively neutered him where his impact was the most, and that was control of the offense and play-calling. My biggest criticism of Garrett was his control over the play calling is absolutely destroying Romo’s career.

The difference between Dak with Garrett and Romo with Garrett is this team has done everything to HELP Dak. With Romo, this team was exclusively reliant on Romo to overcome the incompetence of his HC/PC.

Romo with Linehan was essentially the MVP and he had only one year to work with an AVERAGE pass-heavy OC in his career, while being straddled with a clueless Garrett the majority of it.
 

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It's his body of work for the season thus far. Same as everyone else in the league. Some games are easier than others.

That is the reality...while everyone is bashing the guy...it seems ridiculous when you look at what he has done so far.
Name a QB this season that has only played winning teams? Why is it other QBs get a pass for their stats, even against bad teams but Dak doesn't get that treatment.
 
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Man stop just stop


Yall run in here giggling about Dak’s W/L record but when he is blamed for the L, yall wanna blame the defense and or garrett.

The defense sucks but they gave up 12 points last week and we still lost. Do they have to pitch a shut-out for Dakota to win?

I never mention Dak’s win/loss record. Ever.

So stop your BS and save that for somebody that does.
 

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This is awfully nitpicky - and I'm guilty of that too, with Dak. We could sit here and say that a little more touch and a little more to the middle of the field would be a better throw, but it's a pointless discussion because it's a catch you expect every NFL WR to make. It's a drop and that's it - and it changed the entire complexion of the game.
It's not nitpicky when it has been a consistent pattern throughout his career. Highlighted in his scouting report coming out of college. It is a significant flaw in his game and after almost every game there is a "he got his hands on it, he should have caught it discussion.

I guarantee it gets in the heads of the receivers over time. They cannot expect the ball to be put in a favorable position. They have to be ready for anything. No consistency and no rhythm. Not a good combo.
 

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Didn't know Dak is the only person playing against other teams. How about the Cowboys are 5-9 since 2017. This is just another way to chastise the QB.

Remember, Dak gets zero credit when he wins. It is only because of Zeke and the OL.

Yet when he loses, the OL and Zeke get no blame and it's all Dak. Keep up. I mean it makes zero sense but just keep up.

This OL has not been good since 2016 but they keep getting a pass for some reason.
 

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Absolutely, but you will also acknowledge that if this team wants to make the postseason and make noise in the post season, Dak certainly has to play better than he has against the Saints and Packers, right? I think that's why it's somewhat valid to look at his stats thus far with some skepticism. If he goes out and beats up a bad Jets team and then struggles again at home against Philly, surely that won't be a good thing, right?
Only people who look at and make sweeping generalization based on one or two games would question whether Dak can perform against good team. Did you miss the sweeping of the defending super bowl champs last year?

Did we all miss how he performed in the playoffs last year?

No, i am not even remotely worried about our QB. He is the LEAST of our concerns.

The injuries on our Oline, our defenses inability to generate turnovers or stop the run, and Zeke's ineffectiveness after a huge contract....are all WAY more pressing and concerning.
 

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If I recall correctly, there’s another recent Cowboys Quarterback who didn’t beat many good teams because of the same things that plague Dak. Dropped passes that are tipped leading to interceptions, fumbles, injuries to the online leading to pressure and sacks, subpar running back play, bad defense and horrible play calling. But for that quarterback these things were all highlighted and pointed out to excuse the losses. Why is it so different now for The Dak Man?:huh:Maybe WE lost to those GOOD TEAMS because they were just better that day? Hmmmm...... Ya think?
 
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