Dallas Cowboys: Why do experts favor Carson Wentz over Dak Prescott?

[Diehardblues]

In order to get a more balanced evaluation we really need to look beyond Cowboy and Egirls fans. And why experts can usually provide us a more subjective analysis which isn’t all about accuracy , success of the team and intangible factors.

It’s about raw talent and ability which doesn’t always translate to the field or success of the team. It’s how 1st round picks can not meet their potential and 4th rounds picks can surpass theirs.

The fact Wentz is being evaluated as a more talented prolific passer doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a better overall QB. Or is as effective. Look how Romo overcame all odds as Undrafted QB without all of the prolific talent coming in. You can’t always measure the heart in these athletes which often can overcome any lack of talent and natural ability.

 

[HungryLion]

Dak has yet to come close to matching Wentz best season in TDs, INTs and Yds
Wentz stretches the defense. You wont see defenses disrespect him by walking everyone up on defense to stop the run like they do with Dak. Now Dak has gotten better at making a defense pay for this.
Dak has better completion #s--- Because he checks down to his play makers.
More yards on deep throws --- those numbers come from yac not air yards
More yards per attempt--- see yac.
more deep passing TD---- there is a lot of yac plus this is because Zeke draws 8 men into the box and Dallas has more speed at WR. Did you ever wonder why Dak is so ineffecient in the redzone. The coverages are tighter and it requires more accuracy and velocity to get the ball in.

You should realize that Dak checks down less than Wentz. And you should also realize that Dak’s success with deep passes has nothing to do with getting more YAC than Wentz. Although I find that statement funny considering most people blame any lack of YAC on the QB anyway. Due to ball placement.


if you’re going to do a comparison. At least be accurate with your information.

 

[HungryLion]

I think most fans understand the term prolific passer.

Prolific passer is an entirely subjective term. It’s meaning also gets clouded when you use it to describe somebody who isn’t actually a better passer overall, than someone else.

 

[Diehardblues]

Prolific passer is an entirely subjective term. It’s meaning also gets clouded when you use it to describe somebody who isn’t actually a better passer overall, than someone else.

Of course it’s subjective. And it’s only an opinion based on facts and stats that determines if one QB is greater than another.

 

[Creeper]

Put the two QBs in other uniforms, not Dallas and Philly and I think almost everyone will admit Wentz is the better QB when healthy. Sorry Cowboys fans, I like Dak and I think he is good enough but he is not as good as Wentz. Wentz has a better arm and he is smarter with more pocket awareness. Maybe Dak improves in these areas, but if you ask me right now, Wentz is above Dak in all but one area. Dak is more durable, way more durable.

To me, Wentz looks like he is one good hit away from IR on every play. Maybe I am just seeing things, but that's the way he looks to me. We'll see if he last this entire season. If not, then if you had to start a team, you'd pick Dak because he is dependable. But if Wentz can stay healthy, I think he will emerge as the obvious choice over time.

 

[Diehardblues]

If your looking for an objective evaluation of someone I wouldn’t look to those who are emotionally attached like a fan of that team or loved one as in a parent or spouse.

 

[Blake]

There PAID by Dak's PR office and if it was up to them they would like to have Dak get 50 million a year.
Guess there's a bonus in it for them.
The Cowboys and there Cap health is something above there pay-grade.

Have you ever taken an English class in your life? I can't picture you owning a GED, much less a high school diploma.

 

[BourbonBalz]

One thing is certain. It’s not because of their production on the field. Or the ability to stay on the field. Or head to head competition. I guess it’s because they’re stupid.

 

[glimmerman]

Dak is more gooder...

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

If prolific is dumping to your running back and tight end all game then yeah he’s the more prolific passer. I laugh at Dak getting the reputation of dinking and dunking bell because that’s where most of Wentz yards came from.

They make one set of rules that they want Dak to live by and another that they don't mind other QB's not living by. Other QBs can throw check downs and screen passes and have their WRs get them YAC that adds to their passing yard stats and not have their game be discredited or their talents as a QB diminished. Other QB's making check downs would be credited and praised for making the smart and right plays for what it takes to win the game. Where they will say that Dak has the other players having to work for him.

Dak's the first QB where I have seen some debate for reasons why YAC shouldn't count towards a QB's stats. If Dak doesn't throw it down field every throw he gets called a dink and dunk QB. Other QB's can make a downfield pass a few teams every game and some will act like that means they throw downfield more and get their stats threw long passes in the air most of the time.

 

[MojaveJT]

I almost always take analysts and so called experts opinions with a grain of salt. I give Dak crap from time to time but I’d take Dak over Wentz at this point.

I do think Wentz would be a stud if he played for the Cowboys though.

 

[HungryLion]

They make one set of rules that they want Dak to live by and another that they don't mind other QB's not living by. Other QBs can throw check downs and screen passes and have their WRs get them YAC that adds to their passing yard stats and not have their game be discredited or their talents as a QB diminished. Other QB's making check downs would be credited and praised for making the smart and right plays for what it takes to win the game. Where they will say that Dak has the other players having to work for him.

Dak's the first QB where I have seen some debate for reasons why YAC shouldn't count towards a QB's stats. If Dak doesn't throw it down field every throw he gets called a dink and dunk QB. Other QB's can make a downfield pass a few teams every game and some will act like that means they throw downfield more and get their stats threw long passes in the air most of the time.

It’s beyond ridiculous. I think Brady is the best QB ever. But he throws a ton of short passes. He just does it more efficiently than anyone in the league and has damn near perfect timing and ball placement more often than not. Which is one of the things that makes him so special.

 

[Hardline]

Draft status determines that question
Didn't you know there were six QBs drafted in 2000 better than Tom Brady?

 

[cowboy_ron]

Dak has yet to come close to matching Wentz best season in TDs, INTs and Yds
Wentz stretches the defense. You wont see defenses disrespect him by walking everyone up on defense to stop the run like they do with Dak. Now Dak has gotten better at making a defense pay for this.
Dak has better completion #s--- Because he checks down to his play makers.
More yards on deep throws --- those numbers come from yac not air yards
More yards per attempt--- see yac.
more deep passing TD---- there is a lot of yac plus this is because Zeke draws 8 men into the box and Dallas has more speed at WR. Did you ever wonder why Dak is so ineffecient in the redzone. The coverages are tighter and it requires more accuracy and velocity to get the ball in.

You should apply for a sports gig with the NY media........you both know how to spin Wentz into something he proves every week that he's not.......makes for entertaining reading though.



Now, you Wentz dreamers carry on

 

[exciter]

Jerry made a deal with the devil in 1995 to win that Superbowl as the Niners fell to the Packers.....
Dak is Jerrys Anti-Christ and once signed will have sealed the deal as Jerry will go to the ranch in the Sky without living another Superbowl win.

P.S. Concerning Wentz over Dak if you opened your eyes without them personal/Fan filters you would agree with the experts!

Lol!

 

[Direwolf63]

At this point, I'm ready to just let their careers play out.

Opinions on this matter have been cemented and won't be changed.

 

[Direwolf63]

Then why were the Eagles considered a top team in the NFC and were dominating pretty much all the position rankings? According to the experts, the Eagles were better at every position group on offense except rb. The narrative is Dak needs help and Wentz does it on his own, but the MVP-caliber half season Wentz had his supporting cast was so good the backup qb won the Super Bowl. He also has a losing record as a starter in the two seasons since.

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-pff-rankings-all-32-offensive-lines-after-the-2019-nfl-preseason

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-nfl-receiving-corps-rankings-all-32-teams-entering-2019

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-pff-ranks-the-top-10-tight-ends-ahead-of-the-2019-nfl-season

That's a great point and an excellent post

 

[Bullflop]

I'd say it's a tough year for Dak to put his financial future on the line, without question. Regardless as to how anyone might feel how Dak and Wentz compare to one another, the OP's contention bears merit that Dak's upcoming contract depends upon how he fares in this year's 2nd half.

Personally, I think Dak and Wentz compare to one another closely enough that their contracts shouldn't be too far apart. Nevertheless, the results of how Dak and Dallas fare in the last half of this season will probably greatly affect the amount to be awarded Dak for his contract.

 

[Runwildboys]

And why hasn’t Carson Wentz “carried” his team on his own (whatever the hell that means)?

Why is he on pace for a 3rd non-winning season in 4 years?

Why is Dak on pace for a 4th straight winning season with better stats than Wentz across the board?

Because you’re a JOKE who doesn’t know football, that’s why.

Same CLOWN who said Colt McCoy and Tyrod Taylor are just as good as Dak.

Really no need to make personal attacks, just because he doesn't share your opinion.

 

[wrongway]

Because while Dak could be more successful and the more effective QB , Wentz is a more prolific passer with greater talent in their eyes.

Many experts see Dak is benefiting from a star studded cast surrounding him and Wentz is needing to carry or elevate his supporting cast.

Here’s a scenario I’ve heard used. Who do you think would do better if they switched teams. Dak with the Egirls or Wentz with the Boys?

I forget which won is / was playing with the superbowl winning cast?