The missing ingredient to success

[CouchCoach]

First of all, a little background. I spent most of my career training salespeople and sales managers and part of that deals with what motivates people. Not just the people that worked for me but the people they were trying to convince to make a change. And that's the root of sales, asking people to make change, one of the single hardest things for them to do.

A lot of research has been done with what motivates people to make a change. Is it the desire to gain or the desire to avoid pain? In my experience, the avoidance of pain is far greater because the perception of that is real and gain is yet to be realized.

CC, what's you point? Glad you asked. What's missing with the Dallas Cowboys and has been except when Johnson and Parcells were in place? FEAR

Under the Joneses, where is the fear of failure? That fear is far more motivating for players than the desire to win. That is the driving force in comebacks and the reason the other team doesn't stop the comeback, they do not have enough fear.

If a player doesn't do his job with the Cowboys, what happens? Did you catch Booger in All or Nothing making excuses for Elliott because "he's been through a lot"?

The only coaching change that can really make a difference is one where the HC is allowed to use fear. As mild mannered as Phillips was, he wanted to at least increase fines but was not allowed to do so.

Have you asked yourself why was Parcells able to take Campo's team and turn that around in his first season? Enter fear. Then ask yourself, how was Phillips able to take Parcells team and turn that around? Exit fear. Fear isn't a constant, it has to be used by those who know when to press it and when to back off. Too much fear, risk a shutdown. Not enough fear, risk complacency and good enough is good enough.

Our problemo, mi amigos, is how does fear come to the Cowboys when the owner wants a happy house?

BTW, that Vikings game. Which team do you think had the fear of losing. The team that has the GM that makes excuses for the players or the team that has the HC that openly told his team "no one cares you're beat up and playing on 5 days rest"? All comes down to the same thing, getting the best out of your team and fear has to be present to accomplish that.

 

[cowboy_ron]

A true GM.

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

The missing ingredient of this team is a HC and GM that have actual knowledge on football at the professional level...

 

[NEODOG]

Writing the script better

 

[Whyjerry]

I think it goes beyond coach and GM. The roster is good so in my opinion GM is not the issue. This coach is terrible no doubt but even if the replace him the main issue will stand...

Jerry Jones and the culture he created. Marketing over Winning football. Optics over truth. Zero accountability for the players

The culture issue is not going to go away.

 

[Jake]

I think it goes beyond coach and GM. The roster is good so in my opinion GM is not the issue. This coach is terrible no doubt but even if the replace him the main issue will stand...

Jerry Jones and the culture he created. Marketing over Winning football. Optics over truth. Zero accountability for the players

The culture issue is not going to go away.

I can't believe we still get that line here. Jerry Jones and "the GM" are not separate entities.

I'd call BS on that excuse anyway. This GM hasn't come close to winning anything in over 2 decades, despite multiple coaching changes. Point to another GM who is allowed to fail for so long and still have his job.

 

[erod]

Paprika.

 

[Whyjerry]

I can't believe we still get that line here. Jerry Jones and "the GM" are not separate entities.

I'd call BS on that excuse anyway. This GM hasn't come close to winning anything in over 2 decades, despite multiple coaching changes. Point to another GM who is allowed to fail for so long and still have his job.

Fella you know I hate Jerry. I think he has been a colossal failure as a GM. You can say keeping Garrett is the GM and that is a failure.

That said you have to admit the roster is the not the issue right now. Thank McClay Or however but the roster is not the issue right now.

 

[erod]

First of all, a little background. I spent most of my career training salespeople and sales managers and part of that deals with what motivates people. Not just the people that worked for me but the people they were trying to convince to make a change. And that's the root of sales, asking people to make change, one of the single hardest things for them to do.

A lot of research has been done with what motivates people to make a change. Is it the desire to gain or the desire to avoid pain? In my experience, the avoidance of pain is far greater because the perception of that is real and gain is yet to be realized.

CC, what's you point? Glad you asked. What's missing with the Dallas Cowboys and has been except when Johnson and Parcells were in place? FEAR

Under the Joneses, where is the fear of failure? That fear is far more motivating for players than the desire to win. That is the driving force in comebacks and the reason the other team doesn't stop the comeback, they do not have enough fear.

If a player doesn't do his job with the Cowboys, what happens? Did you catch Booger in All or Nothing making excuses for Elliott because "he's been through a lot"?

The only coaching change that can really make a difference is one where the HC is allowed to use fear. As mild mannered as Phillips was, he wanted to at least increase fines but was not allowed to do so.

Have you asked yourself why was Parcells able to take Campo's team and turn that around in his first season? Enter fear. Then ask yourself, how was Phillips able to take Parcells team and turn that around? Exit fear. Fear isn't a constant, it has to be used by those who know when to press it and when to back off. Too much fear, risk a shutdown. Not enough fear, risk complacency and good enough is good enough.

Our problemo, mi amigos, is how does fear come to the Cowboys when the owner wants a happy house?

BTW, that Vikings game. Which team do you think had the fear of losing. The team that has the GM that makes excuses for the players or the team that has the HC that openly told his team "no one cares you're beat up and playing on 5 days rest"? All comes down to the same thing, getting the best out of your team and fear has to be present to accomplish that.

True, but you aren't factoring in the millennial. They've never been yelled at in their life.

Parcells would have them crapping their knickers and quitting football forever in five minutes.

 

[Hennessy_King]

So you actually have no talent. Got it

 

[CouchCoach]

Paprika.

Hot or smoked?

 

[superonyx]

Wait are you telling me the offense isnt afraid of Kellen Moore? I know I am.

Good write up. I have a similar background. This balance is very hard to achieve for most people. A true leader will be able to use fear just enough that it can be felt in cases where its needed. The problem is many people don't have the ability to avoid getting caught up in their role and will start to become the fear monger. You can't lead men who don't wish to follow you. Men don't want to follow someone who doesnt have their best interest at heart. If you find this balance you will create men that will walk through fire for you. Not because they are afraid not to but because they want to.

This is what disturbs me with JG coming out this week to throw his players under the bus. People don't want to walk through the fire with a leader that will back the bus over you to save his own face.

Jerry has created this organizational issue. He has made his HC neutered and powerless. Who knows if JG could have become Parcells. We just know that he couldnt when he has spent the last 9 years with his balls locked in a box in Jerry's office. Obviously he needs to go. I am just worried who Jerry will find to be his next Campo, Garrett, Wade.

 

[John813]

True, but you aren't factoring in the millennial. They've never been yelled at in their life.

Parcells would have them crapping their knickers and quitting football forever in five minutes.

Millennials are aged from 23 to 37 years old.
Jason Witten is a millennial.
Parcells coached Millennials when he was here.

You honestly believe for a second a professional football players has never had anyone yell at them?
From possible rough growing up conditions, to various coaches(including strength coaches), OC/DC. HC etc...

 

[Future]

There is no fear anywhere in the entire NFL.

 

[erod]

Millennials are aged from 23 to 37 years old.
Jason Witten is a millennial.
Parcells coached Millennials when he was here.

You honestly believe for a second a professional football players has never had anyone yell at them?
From possible rough growing up conditions, to various coaches(including strength coaches), OC/DC. HC etc...

Stop being so literal.

How much respect do head coaches get today from players? Virtually none. They don't respond to the yelling. They just ignore it and stare at their phones.

The end of the roster guys do, but Zeke? Bennett? Beckham? Sherman? They roll their eyes and laugh.

The guys that do respond don't really need to be disciplined by coaches anyway.

 

[CouchCoach]

True, but you aren't factoring in the millennial. They've never been yelled at in their life.

Parcells would have them crapping their knickers and quitting football forever in five minutes.

It's not about yelling, Richard did that with LVE and Smith on the sideline to no avail.

It is about accountability to themselves and the team. Belichick doesn't use yelling to get his point across. Landry, Grant, Noll and Shula weren't yellers, they didn't need to be.

 

[erod]

Wait are you telling me the offense isnt afraid of Kellen Moore? I know I am.

Good write up. I have a similar background. This balance is very hard to achieve for most people. A true leader will be able to use fear just enough that it can be felt in cases where its needed. The problem is many people don't have the ability to avoid getting caught up in their role and will start to become the fear monger. You can't lead men who don't wish to follow you. Men don't want to follow someone who doesnt have their best interest at heart. If you find this balance you will create men that will walk through fire for you. Not because they are afraid not to but because they want to.

This is what disturbs me with JG coming out this week to throw his players under the bus. People don't want to walk through the fire with a leader that will back the bus over you to save his own face.

Jerry has created this organizational issue. He has made his HC neutered and powerless. Who knows if JG could have become Parcells. We just know that he couldnt when he has spent the last 9 years with his balls locked in a box in Jerry's office. Obviously he needs to go. I am just worried who Jerry will find to be his next Campo, Garrett, Wade.

I have a different take on it with the people I've managed.

If I have to employ fear, I just fire them. You can't fix lazy or stupid. I prefer well-intentioned people I can help and motivate.

Now, if they're upper management types with contracts and salaries, then yes, I would employ fear. But almost without exception, I've never put anyone in a position like that if they required that approach.

 

[Creeper]

I agree with you to an extent. The Vikings were coming off a tough loss to KC and clearly they did not want to lose another game, especially a conference game. They can't afford to lose many more games because they have the Packers in their division. The Cowboys were coming off 2 division wins and probably were not as motivated by those wins as the Vikings were by their loss.

But is not just a fear of losing that's missing. I think all professional athletes, or at least most, are competitive and hate to lose. I think they all want to win. But what they don't fear is consequences for making mistakes.

 

[CouchCoach]

There is no fear anywhere in the entire NFL.

Disagree. Think Belichick benching Malcom Butler, the star of the previous SB, didn't get the team's attention? Last night, I saw players on both teams get penalties and were out of the game immediately. Think having that camera on you an on the big screen and all across America because you screwed up isn't a fear factor?

I do agree that it's not to the degree before FA and it is more of a players' league than ever but there are still HC's that use fear as a motivator.

 

[erod]

It's not about yelling, Richard did that with LVE and Smith on the sideline to no avail.

It is about accountability to themselves and the team. Belichick doesn't use yelling to get his point across. Landry, Grant, Noll and Shula weren't yellers, they didn't need to be.

I know what you mean.

Part of the problem is that these players make so much money now, they have all the power.

Sunday night, Pollard was the better option over Zeke the way that game was playing out. Joe Thomas was the better option, too.

But Jerry wants his money on the field, and too many teams operate that way.