Video: What Happened to Ezekiel Elliott? Baldy Breakdowns

[Fontaine]

I've been defending him, mostly, but it's getting tougher.

This is my exact thoughts. I’m sick of hearing the “he’s had no training camp or preseason”....it’s week 11 now, how much more time does this guy need?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

More BS "he doesn't make people miss." Lmao.

Right? I mean I can understand fans saying he looked sluggish, but there was very little room to run. And to suggest he should simply bounce outside isn't always a realistic option.

Technically you're right.
Zeke made one person miss on Sunday on 20 carries. ONE.

Of his 47 yards, 37 of them were before contact. So he averaged almost two yards of space after the LOS before being contacted.

More "if Zeke doesnt perform it's everyone elses fault but his own" BS.

 

[Legend]

The Vikings did a really good job at the point of attack. Even if there was an opening, the LBers filled in.

Also, the current Cowboys OL cannot block as well as the OL in the 1995 clip. They basically mauled the Vikings defenders creating a huge hole off tackle.

 

[Hadenough]

I barely watched this video.

Wow, talk about exposing today's lame Zeke!?!? Zeke needs to be benched! He's not the same as he was before. He is slower, runner down, no more burst, finished speed, lack of aggression, etc. The Cowboys could get all of that by playing Tony Pollard. It's time to bench Zeke, or limit his plays, and give the majority of carries to the younger, fresher, faster, more explosive and hungrier Pollard. Forget Zeke's new waaaaay overpaid contract. That's on Jerry. Do you want to help this Offense perform better or not?

I agree! But I have not been impressed at all with Pollard. It would be nice of the Cowboys had some decent options at RB. One of the problems with this offense is the Cowboys are not a great screen team and thats what good teams will do as a running game.

 

[Legend]

Technically you're right.
Zeke made one person miss on Sunday on 20 carries. ONE.

Of his 47 yards, 37 of them were before contact. So he averaged almost two yards of space after the LOS before being contacted.

More "if Zeke doesnt perform it's everyone elses fault but his own" BS.

If JG is trying to utilize his poor man’s 90s scheme of ball control; the current Cowboys OL need to stop getting blown off the ball when the Cowboys play good teams. I.e., they need to consistently push the defense back and create holes for Zeke to run through...

 

[G2]

Technically you're right.
Zeke made one person miss on Sunday on 20 carries. ONE.

Of his 47 yards, 37 of them were before contact. So he averaged almost two yards of space after the LOS before being contacted.

More "if Zeke doesnt perform it's everyone elses fault but his own" BS.

I never excluded Elliott from blame, I just don't buy into the idiotic notion that we don't have O line issues. Idiots assume. There was no room, so of course his numbers and averages are going to be awful. Pretty simple stuff.

 

[kskboys]

5th rounder was not exactly a kings ransom

Well, you asked for worse signings, and I gave them to you!!! Marion Barber was a worse signing. He was an obvious backup that we gave full time money to to be "the man". Roy Williams was worse. Both of them!!!!!!!!!!! And both were paid to be "the man".

The only way the Zeke contract can turn out to be worth it, is if someone gets in his ear and convinces him to cut his crapp and start being a man. Zeke can run like a top 5 RB, we've seen it. But, he isn't at present. Looks to me as if he's out of shape an unmotivated. Hey, there wasn't much there vs the Vikes, I get it, I saw it. However, as someone else said, he should have been able to evade and make some plays at least a few times. He looked out of shape.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

If JG is trying to utilize his poor man’s 90s scheme of ball control; the current Cowboys OL need to stop getting blown off the ball when the Cowboys play good teams. I.e., they need to consistently push the defense back and create holes for Zeke to run through...

Correct! Which every RB can run through and highlights why paying a RB is dumb, especially one who is limited.

 

[Legend]

Correct! Which every RB can run through and highlights why paying a RB is dumb, especially one who is limited.

Even Barry Sanders needed OL to create some holes because he could not out juke all defenders on consistent basis who blew up his OL.

The bigger problem is the overpaid OL who are consistently beaten by defenders when they play good teams.

They should be playing like “The Great Wall of Dallas” 2.0... Maybe they are hampered by bad coaching as well.

 

[kskboys]

I'm trying to figure out why we get mad at JG about slinging someone under the bus.....when the post on here grab a player each week, each loss. Some don't want to attribute poor OL run blocking, bad play calling, no FB or TE lead blocking on occasion. Baffles me......dissect Witt, Martin, Frederick, TSmith…..they got manhandled on run blocking all game. Oopps, sorry I mentioned Witt.

You have got to be kidding w/ your first sentence, right? I know you know that a HC absolutely cannot act this way, as he's responsible for the entire team and what happens is his, no matter what. Throwing around the blame game shows weak character and a complete non-understanding of what his job is.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

I never excluded Elliott from blame, I just don't buy into the idiotic notion that we don't have O line issues. Idiots assume. There was no room, so of course his numbers and averages are going to be awful. Pretty simple stuff.

I just gave you the data that there was in fact room. Idiots don't present facts and statistics in debates.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Yep! Cuz you respond! My posts are like cheese to a mouse! You're the mouse!!

So you are the cheese?

 

[G2]

I just gave you the data that there was in fact room. Idiots don't present facts and statistics in debates.

Not accurate.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Even Barry Sanders needed OL to create some holes because he could not out juke all defenders on consistent basis who blew up his OL.

The bigger problem is the overpaid OL who are consistently beaten by defenders when they play good teams.

They should be playing like “The Great Wall of Dallas” 2.0... Maybe they are hampered by bad coaching as well.

Not going to get huge holes on every play. A back has to be able to make something out of nothing or bounce it outside or break tackles. And you certainly don't pay a RB 15 million that cant do that.

But I do recall many of us complaining that Dak was getting sacked last year because of poor Oline play and many posters laughing it off saying that Zeke was leading the NFL in rushing so it was playing just fine.

 

[birdwells1]

Of course I am. I'm also mad that he stops moving his feet on contact, he isn't making people miss, and he isn't bouncing anything outside anymore.

Where's the anger toward the top paid oline in the NFL?

 

[ColoradoCowboy]

Baldy keeps saying "This is a well-blocked play", but it isn't. In every case, a defender sheds the blocker and contributes to the tackle.

 

[Legend]

Not going to get huge holes on every play. A back has to be able to make something out of nothing or bounce it outside or break tackles. And you certainly don't pay a RB 15 million that cant do that.

But I do recall many of us complaining that Dak was getting sacked last year because of poor Oline play and many posters laughing it off saying that Zeke was leading the NFL in rushing so it was playing just fine.

Yes but the bigger problems are the OL and play calling... not utilizing tosses, sweeps, off tackle, draws, and I-formations more to get Zeke some space to operate.

Just like this clip with Emmitt... no need to juke or break tackles when holes are opened.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Yes but the bigger problems are the OL and play calling... not utilizing tosses, sweeps, off tackle, draws, and I-formations more to get Zeke some space to operate.

The play calling is definitely a problem. The Oline I consider the least issue out of the 3. Now they certainly got out played in the run blocking, but that doesn't mean there weren't big plays to be made. If it was reversed and Cook was the back, he definitely make a lot more plays. Zeke made NONE.

 

[TheDude]

Well, you asked for worse signings, and I gave them to you!!! Marion Barber was a worse signing. He was an obvious backup that we gave full time money to to be "the man". Roy Williams was worse. Both of them!!!!!!!!!!! And both were paid to be "the man".

The only way the Zeke contract can turn out to be worth it, is if someone gets in his ear and convinces him to cut his crapp and start being a man. Zeke can run like a top 5 RB, we've seen it. But, he isn't at present. Looks to me as if he's out of shape an unmotivated. Hey, there wasn't much there vs the Vikes, I get it, I saw it. However, as someone else said, he should have been able to evade and make some plays at least a few times. He looked out of shape.

C. Portia, Stephen Jackson, Maurice Jones Drew, Larry Johnson, and 3 others had larher contracts than Barber in 2008/9. It was not a record setting deal...but even if that is mantra, it makes the argument worse not better. They saw the precipitous drop off in power backs without elisoceness before.

RWII was never going to be the man, he was signed as a complement to TO in 2008 after the offense bogged down and Romo was hurt. That one is close merely due to the draft picks... but dallas didn't have first hand knowledge and knew about all the baggage

 

[kskboys]

C. Portia, Stephen Jackson, Maurice Jones Drew, Larry Johnson, and 3 others had larher contracts than Barber in 2008/9. It was not a record setting deal...but even if that is mantra, it makes the argument worse not better. They saw the precipitous drop off in power backs without elisoceness before.

RWII was never going to be the man, he was signed as a complement to TO in 2008 after the offense bogged down and Romo was hurt. That one is close merely due to the draft picks... but dallas didn't have first hand knowledge and knew about all the baggage

You asked, I showed!!!!!!!! Narrowing the parameters doesn't negate facts. Barber was not anywhere near quick enough to the hole to ever be a bellcow, and was more overpaid than Zeke.
Roy Williams WR was signed to take TO's place. And we paid him a ton.

Pacman was signed to be the man.

We have had worse signings. And Zeke has been OK, so he has not been a complete flop. Yet.