Belichick Coming to Dallas could happen

[RustyBourneHorse]

Its a long shot, but I think it's a real possibility.

With how the Pats look atm, it's possible I suppose. I'd love it.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The problem with the narrative that Jerry is a complete buffoon is that you would have to assume that a HOF Coach like Bill Parcells somehow didn't know it ahead of time, then somehow didn't notice it for four years with the Cowboys.

Thing is that I have shown him articles that demonstrated that Jones wanted Parcells back when he announced when he retired. He doesn't argue it, disappears, and then comes back to repeat the same drivel.

You cannot argue with someone if they are determined to believe something in spite of contrary evidence.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Jerry stepped aside for the Big Tuna, would he do so for the Hoodie?
Don't know ...

For a title with a coach that has nothing left to prove? Sure, he might.

 

[wileedog]

Cool narrative with zero behind it to prove it to be true.

*shrug* give me a better narrative that explains exactly what happened.

Jerry celebrated Parcells leaving and then gave the team to two milquetoast coaches for the next 13 years. What makes more sense?

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I'm starting to come around on this...the more I see Brady look like a decline is coming fast, the more I think TB12 retires. If that happens then The Hoodie may want to leave instead of rebuild. Dallas could offer him a chance to win relatively fast. Who knows?

Yup, and, as stated, you then factor in the fact that we have a terrible division, young talent, and a young defence that would love his guidance. I could see it. It's not too far fetched. Maybe this is the long shot Jerry wants.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Plus, the Pats already have some inside deal in place to let McDanial take over. Thats why he turned down the Colts a few years ago after accepting the job.

Yup, and rather than retire, why not try to come to us? Sure, we have Jerry, but we have lots of young talent that need direction and discipline. Bill would be that presence for us. We need that PhD in football here.

 

[Kaiser]

then gave the team to two milquetoast coaches for the next 13 years.

Who won five Division titles and a Coach of the Year award in that time. Garrett cut Corey White for a uniform violation, its funny how none of the players have ever called him a wimp like the fans do.

 

[wileedog]

Who won five Division titles and a Coach of the Year award in that time. Garrett cut Corey White for a uniform violation, its funny how none of the players have ever called him a wimp like the fans do.

LOL, because I always go to the media to talk about what a wimp my coach is. And who the heck is Corey White? Did he also cut Marion Barber, his starting RB, for showing up on the plane for Garretts first game as HC in sweats?

And yeah the coaching has been stellar here. That's exactly WHY we are having a conversation about trying to get a HOF coach here because no one else has been able to succeed with Jerry in 25 years..

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

*shrug* give me a better narrative that explains exactly what happened.

Jerry celebrated Parcells leaving and then gave the team to two milquetoast coaches for the next 13 years. What makes more sense?

I have already shown several instances where your narrative does not stand up to reality. You've already been shown before that Jerry did not celebrate Parcells leaving and tried to get him to stay.

But what? If I cannot come up with a different story that somehow validates the truth of yours?

What I will say though is that Urban Meyer has stated that the Dallas job is one that no matter what you have to answer. Parcells said similar things.

IOW, if Jerry calls Bill Belichick, Bill answers the phone and considers the offer. We have no way of knowing what BB thinks as he is famous for treating the media and the public like mushrooms as to what he thinks and feels. That being said he is of an age to understand the prestige the Dallas Cowboys franchise has in and of itself.

 

[Kaiser]

And who the heck is Corey White?

He was our starting nickel corner when he was cut, the fact you don't know that is telling.

 

[Kaiser]

That being said he is of an age to understand the prestige the Dallas Cowboys franchise has in and of itself.

And Belichick is already the GOAT of Head Coaches. Turning a second team into a dynasty would put that title out of reach to anyone else, pretty much forever.

 

[catiii]

I doubt it will be a young unproven college coach. Jerry knows he hasn't got 10 years to waste for another experiment.
It can only be a huge proven name who can win immediately - and who will attract $$revenue$$ - the only one I know that big is BB.

 

[ShortRound]

I’m pretty sure every fan base has a “Belechik could come to _______” thread.

 

[Idgit]

Very unlikely, but it would be great drama and a great gotcha from Jerry for Kraft after all had blood that went down in 2017.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And Belichick is already the GOAT of a Head Coaches. Turning a second team into a dynasty would put that title out of reach to anyone else, pretty much forever.

It's one of the few things in football that he cannot say he has accomplished. That being said we have no idea what really motivates him at this point.

I like the idea though. Undoubtedly, BB would want lots of control and has the prestige to get it. This squad is talented and he has a lot to work with. On paper it looks like it would work out well.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Very unlikely, but it would be great drama and a great gotcha from Jerry for Kraft after all had blood that went down in 2017.

That is fair. There have been rumblings for years now that BB and Kraft's relationships has soured too.

Thing is that BB's contract is year to year and I would hope that at least Jones would make the call and see what happens. I cannot think of a better case scenario.

 

[Kaiser]

I like the idea though. Undoubtedly, BB would want lots of control and has the prestige to get it. This squad is talented and he has a lot to work with. On paper it looks like it would work out well.

It would also be a way for Jerry to transition formally to the "Chairman of the Board" role that he is in now. Half this board thinks he is still in the middle of every decision but in reality he has already moved to just being a veto authority, like the situation with cutting Dez Bryant. The FO decided on it and then took it to Jerry, not the other way around.

I have no clue if Jerry really wants that, but this could be a clean break if he wants it.

 

[wileedog]

I have already shown several instances where your narrative does not stand up to reality. You've already been shown before that Jerry did not celebrate Parcells leaving and tried to get him to stay.

"At least I won't be walking around here on eggshells anymore." Does that sound like a guy who wanted Parcells back?

And honestly if you have "shown me several instances" where this wasn't true I don't remember them. You're right I haven't been around much due to work and lack of enthusiasm for this team, but if you have something other than Jerry saying some platitudes about Bill leaving that any owner is going to say about an outgoing HOF I'd like to see them. Because his actions for many, many years after the fact point to him not wanting a HC with any sort of gravitas in the locker room.

But what? If I cannot come up with a different story that somehow validates the truth of yours?

Nope, believe my take or do not based on what fits the facts. Jerry has had opportunities to bring in established coaches like Gruden or even Dan Reeves as a consultant and has avoided them like the plague. He clearly does not want a challenge to his authority.

What I will say though is that Urban Meyer has stated that the Dallas job is one that no matter what you have to answer. Parcells said similar things.

Bill Belichick has 6 Super Bowls. Urban Meyer not so much. And Parcells took the job then left when Jerry shoved TO down his throat. Granted Belichick is of the same generation that Parcells is that might find the job is special, but more and more in the league the Cowboys are just another team.

IOW, if Jerry calls Bill Belichick, Bill answers the phone and considers the offer. We have no way of knowing what BB thinks as he is famous for treating the media and the public like mushrooms as to what he thinks and feels. That being said he is of an age to understand the prestige the Dallas Cowboys franchise has in and of itself.

I have said I have no way of knowing what Belichick's motivations are at this point. But I think he has pretty much already established that he is one of the greatest if not greatest coaches of all time, and whether he leaves NE for Dallas or not that pretty much will not change. I don't think he needs a resume polisher at this point.

And I also think the star is quite a bit tarnished right now. 25 years without so much as a NFC CG game I think the job is diminished. Rams HC Sean McVay was 10 years old the last time we won a Superbowl. Think the Cowboy job would mean anything special to him if for some reason he and the Rams split?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It would also be a way for Jerry to transition formally to the "Chairman of the Board" role that he is in now. Half this board thinks he is still in the middle of every decision but in reality he has already moved to just being a veto authority, like the situation with cutting Dez Bryant. The FO decided on it and then took it to Jerry, not the other way around.

I have no clue if Jerry really wants that, but this could be a clean break if he wants it.

Yeah people don't really understand that he delegates authority. Stephen, Charlotte, and Jr. are VPs of operations, branding, and marketing. Jerry has always overseen all of that.

People that insist on the big man paradigm are ignorant to how modern corporate america works.

 

[Kaiser]

People that insist on the big man paradigm are ignorant to how modern corporate america works.

And if Jerry really was Crazy Idiot Buffoon Jerry, Will McClay wouldn't have stayed in the front office for the last ten years. He has gotten big money offers to formally be a GM elsewhere but he has stayed in Dallas.