The case against Chip Kelly as head coach

[erod]

Nobody:

Erod: Chip Kelly? You’re crazy. He would be a terrible choice.

Geez. Read the OP. It wasn't about Chip Kelly.

 

[Proof]

Nobody:

Erod: Chip Kelly? You’re crazy. He would be a terrible choice.

read the post

 

[erod]

Most of the time I agree with your stuff erod, but I think you are really under estimating how good of a coach Urban Meyer is

he is an absolute genius at maximizing the talent at his disposal no matter what their skill sets are. Probably as good or better than any coach I've ever seen, other than maybe Belichick

College coaches just don't translate straight to the NFL. Name one.

 

[UncleRico]

yeah....why go for a guy who won at Bowling Green....won at Utah....won 2 national titles at Florida and a 3rd at Ohio St...made each program better than when he inherited them and won with a variety of QBs.

you can blame Urban for Aaron Hernandez killing people.....I blame Aaron Hernandez.
you can blame Urban for his asst coach allegedly committing DV.....I blame the asst coach.

187-32.
12-3 in bowl games.
3 National Titles.
yeah......why would we want that.

Im hiring Urban Meyer to be Head Coach...not Team Chaplin.

THE URBAN LEGEND

Agree on all points. Urban is smart and a CEO type coach. Players would respect him. Give me Urban all day.

 

[KingintheNorth]

He’s a product of his personnel.

4 first round picks and a trade for Dee Ford will make a lot people look good.

Although, I do like Saleh.

I just think he's this year's version of Kris Richard.

 

[BoysForLife]

Cool, but I don't think you read my OP.

It had nothing to do with Chip Kelly really.

No I did read the post I just thought I would throw that fact out there for consideration and a bit of humor

 

[sean10mm]

College coaches just don't translate straight to the NFL. Name one.

Jimmy Johnson.

Harbaugh from Stanford to the 49ers.

 

[UncleRico]

yeah....why go for a guy who won at Bowling Green....won at Utah....won 2 national titles at Florida and a 3rd at Ohio St...made each program better than when he inherited them and won with a variety of QBs.

you can blame Urban for Aaron Hernandez killing people.....I blame Aaron Hernandez.
you can blame Urban for his asst coach allegedly committing DV.....I blame the asst coach.

187-32.
12-3 in bowl games.
3 National Titles.
yeah......why would we want that.

Im hiring Urban Meyer to be Head Coach...not Team Chaplin.

THE URBAN LEGEND

Agree on all points. Urban is smart and a CEO type coach. Players would respect him. Give me Urban all day.

 

[BoysForLife]

College coaches just don't translate straight to the NFL. Name one.

Jimmy

 

[erod]

If it happened once, it can happen again. Urban is a leader of men and is one of the most highly respected coaches in NCAA history. Not many can say that.

He left his job in shame as a bald-facied lying sack of crap.

This after leaving Florida while it was under multiple investigations.

He is not "highly respected". He's know for running the dirtiest programs in the country.

 

[erod]

Jimmy

I already provided that one. Name another. It's been tried over and over, each time with abject failure.

 

[cowboyec]

Name one game he's won in the NFL against equal talent.

This won't be Indiana and Purdue he's playing.

He won with vastly superior talent and recruiting skills.

superior talent at Bowling Green or Utah?
you must be a frustrated fan of a team who got its *** kicked repeatedly by Urban Legend.

 

[atlantacowboy]

He left his job in shame as a bald-facied lying sack of crap.

This after leaving Florida while it was under multiple investigations.

He is not "highly respected". He's know for running the dirtiest programs in the country.

He is one of the top 2 or 3 head coaches in NCAA history. He resigned b/c he has a tumor in his head and has to manage his stress levels. He still works at OSU as an admin in the ahtletic department. He is literally on campus and at the football practices every day.

You obviously have a personal grudge against the guy for whatever reason.

 

[khiladi]

Jimmy Johnson.

Harbaugh from Stanford to the 49ers.

Pete Carroll, though he did have previous NFL
Experience...

 

[Swanny]

Every big name college program sleazily recruits.. every now and then, there is a token fall guy.

Pete Carroll is top 3 coach in this league.

I don't understand why cheating at recruiting matters at all when it comes to the NFL? And I'm not even an Urban Meyer fan I want Ron Rivera.

 

[Hook'em#11]

Pete Carroll, though he did have precious NFL
Experience...

Carroll coached in the NFL before USC.

 

[sean10mm]

Carroll coached in the NFL before USC.

And college before that.

His first NFL stint was pretty bad though.

 

[cowboyec]

I already provided that one. Name another. It's been tried over and over, each time with abject failure.

Nick Saban at Miami wanted Drew Brees.
the GM said no....and went with Daunte Culpepper instead.
if he lets Saban have Brees...he would never have left Miami.

 

[khiladi]

Carroll coached in the NFL before USC.

That’s what I meant, though he had NFL experience. Looks like “spell check” set it to precious.

 

[Staubacher]

For the life of me, I just don't understand all this momentum for Urban Meyer.

Forget for a moment that he basically got run out of Ohio State for knowingly covering up years of horrific domestic violence for a key assistant coach. Forget that he was coaching a bunch of really evil players at Florida and didn't care. Forget the myriad of sleezy recruiting tactics he's known for.

What makes him a good NFL coaching candidate? Nobody from college has had success at the NFL level since Jimmy (Pete Carroll was in the NFL for many years before his stint at USC). College isn't a good place to even look unless you pick a very specific type of football mind.

How would Urban Meyer even translate?

He's the prime definition of the RPO offense. It's all he's ever run. It requires the likes of JT Barrett and Tim Tebow to run it, and Dak hardly looks the part for such an offense. Even Alex Smith was pretty much a runner in college under Meyer.

This smells of Chip Kelly allure.

We saw Kelly bring an even more creative version of that offense to the NFL, and it fell SPLAT in the NFL. Despite accolades from everywhere, that was a crash-and-burn of epic proportions. To this day, analysts like Cris Collinsworth and Jon Gruden (at the time) are embarrassed about how they went gooey over Chip and the "new NFL offense of the future."

Did Urban ever run his QB under center? Did he have read routes for his receivers? Did he employ NFL-style play action? Did anything he ran look NFL worthy, or did he just out-recruit the pants off of everybody and run up gaudy numbers against far lesser players?

The same goes for Chris Peterson and that nonsense offense.

The ONLY college guy I would even consider is Lincoln Riley because he focuses on the run game first and utilizes his QB under center a ton. His is an NFL style offense with fresh passing ideas mixed in and a deep passing game.

For what it's worth, Riley toyed with Meyer in Columbus the last time they met.

But I don't think either of them are the right guy. Jerry needs to go NFL first, and big names at that. I start with Bill Belichick, Mike Zimmer, Sean Payton, Greg Roman, Robert Saleh, etc. Shoot for the moon in the dark of the night, then look for quality assistant coach candidates in the NFL after that.

Just don't fall for Chip Kelly, Steve Spurrier, Greg Schiano, Bobby Petrino Nick Saban, etc.

Did your root for the Cowboys when Jimmy Johnson was there? Because he ran a sleazy program at Miami and quite honestly at Dallas. So you might want to get off your moral high horse