What successful NFL owners do and don’t do

[Bobhaze]

"Not one owner was the GM. Zero."
ever heard of Paul Brown? or his 7 titles?
you know the guy who built the modern NFL? ... never mind

"They never override a coach’s discipline of players."
LOL

the most busy body sports owner is history was Jerry Buss - he was also the most successful
this guy fired Paul Westhead (the year after winning a title) at the suggestion of 20 year old kid named Magic and gave a nobody 2nd year assistant name of Pat Riley the whistle - he didn't care if his players took extreme political stands or impregnated every porn star in LA - and more than once called into live radio shows to cuss out fools who thought they knew how he should run his team

but since we're talking Cowboy football - I'd point that right about 50 years ago a really cool owner, named Clint Murchison, ignored his GM, the press, and silly voices like yours (from the cheap seats) who wanted Landry gone after 9 years and 1 playoff win

Clint signed Tom to a long term deal ... the result - the most successful franchise in NFL history

"IF YOU ARE AN NFL OWNER, AND WANT TO WIN A SUPER BOWL, THERE ARE SOME DO’S AND DON’TS TO FOLLOW"

yep, and it begins with ignoring ding bats

Ok....Paul Brown retired in what 1972? Jerry Buss has been dead for how long? One of the points of this thread is what worked in the past doesn’t work today...and we have the last 23 SB winners as evidence.

And I would be a little more open to your side of the argument if any of Jerry’s style had worked the last nearly quarter of a century. His results (or lack of results) speak for themselves.

 

[Bobhaze]

I can simplify this. Winning teams have people who are accountable for results. When those results are not satisfactory, the people responsible are fired and replaced. Jerry will never fire himself or his son so the results are not going to change. Its not about press conferences, running down to the field after games or even stumbling into the locker room after having had too much booze. Its about hiring the right men to run the team, coach the team, and play the game. Jerry is responsible for all of that and he sucks at it. But Jerry owns the team and he is never, ever going to fire himself. End of story.

Well said.

 

[Blackrain]

So what have the NFL owners who have won the last 23 SBs done compared to Jerry? Here is a list of what they do and don’t do:

WHAT SUCCESSFUL NFL OWNERS DO: (The ones winning the last 23 SBs)

1. Successful NFL owners hire a GM who then hires a HC. The HC is allowed to hire his own staff.
2. The GM is held accountable for results. Usually 4-5 years are considered enough time to prove they can win or at least compete for a championship by making at least a conf championship game.
3. A good GM is sometimes kept for more than one HC tenure, depending on their success or progress.
4. The owner stays out of football operations by letting the guy he hired as GM run that side of the business.
5. If the GM isn’t getting it done in 5 years, it’s usually time for a change and a new GM is hired.​

WHAT SUCCESSFUL NFL OWNERS DO NOT DO:

1. They NEVER run the football side of operations. Why? Just look at the last 23 winners of the SB. Not one owner was the GM. Zero.
2. They don’t allow ALL their kids to have jobs with no accountability. If you’re going to have your kids have jobs with the on-field results side of the business, if the team doesn’t win, changes must be made.
3. Successful NFL owners don’t hold post game press conferences because they have hired professional football people to do that and they realize by speaking to the media too much, they undermine their HC and players.
4. They never override a coach’s discipline of players. Owners can state what their values are but let the people they hire discipline the players.
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This is certainly an incomplete list.
But it is crystal clear: IF YOU ARE AN NFL OWNER, AND WANT TO WIN A SUPER BOWL, THERE ARE SOME DO’S AND DON’TS TO FOLLOW OR YOUR TEAM WILL END UP WITH 24 YEARS WITH 3 PLAYOFF WINS.

I truly feel your pain Bullet and look at it this way Jerry is like a lot of crazy rich guys we all know . They find these obscure hobby's that they are NOT VERY GOOD AT things they could easily pay someone else to do a better job at .

Then because they are so successful in other parts of their life and business they believe they can be good at their hobby also. The more miserably they fail the more TOTALLY COMMITTED AND OBSESSED they become in getting it right at all costs .

Unfortunately for us Cowboy fans Jerry is even more insanely rich than any of us could ever imagine SO THERE ARE NEVER ANY REAL CONSEQUENCES TO HIS FAILURE at his hobby The Dallas Cowboys .

I hope I am wrong but I believe Jerry is in SO DEEP ego wise at this point that after failing with his hand picked coach in Garrett he will feel the need to pick another coach and continue to try and see this thing through to the box .

We diehard Cowboy fans are just going tho have to continue to suffer through this till Jerry is no longer able to run the team and then hope Stephen has the sense to see the error in his fathers ways or has some other Hobby he is obsessed with AND HIRE THE BEST GM MONEY CAN BUY STEP BACK AND LET HIM DO HIS JOB .

Till then its an ugly road for any coach to try and have success with, and a disappointing future consisting of one and done in the playoffs being about the ceiling for this dysfunctional franchise .

I adjusted my expectations long ago but watching this team struggle so UNNECESSARILY is really making it frustrating to watch or enjoy

 

[jazzcat22]

man, talk about blindness

whatever

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Hats off to you if that makes you happy.

And Jerry was only GM in name only for 2 of those.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

So what have the NFL owners who have won the last 23 SBs done compared to Jerry? Here is a list of what they do and don’t do:

WHAT SUCCESSFUL NFL OWNERS DO: (The ones winning the last 23 SBs)

1. Successful NFL owners hire a GM who then hires a HC. The HC is allowed to hire his own staff.
2. The GM is held accountable for results. Usually 4-5 years are considered enough time to prove they can win or at least compete for a championship by making at least a conf championship game.
3. A good GM is sometimes kept for more than one HC tenure, depending on their success or progress.
4. The owner stays out of football operations by letting the guy he hired as GM run that side of the business.
5. If the GM isn’t getting it done in 5 years, it’s usually time for a change and a new GM is hired.​

WHAT SUCCESSFUL NFL OWNERS DO NOT DO:

1. They NEVER run the football side of operations. Why? Just look at the last 23 winners of the SB. Not one owner was the GM. Zero.
2. They don’t allow ALL their kids to have jobs with no accountability. If you’re going to have your kids have jobs with the on-field results side of the business, if the team doesn’t win, changes must be made.
3. Successful NFL owners don’t hold post game press conferences because they have hired professional football people to do that and they realize by speaking to the media too much, they undermine their HC and players.
4. They never override a coach’s discipline of players. Owners can state what their values are but let the people they hire discipline the players.
​

This is certainly an incomplete list.
But it is crystal clear: IF YOU ARE AN NFL OWNER, AND WANT TO WIN A SUPER BOWL, THERE ARE SOME DO’S AND DON’TS TO FOLLOW OR YOUR TEAM WILL END UP WITH 24 YEARS WITH 3 PLAYOFF WINS.

Best post of the year. I know Jerry Jones probably doesn't come over to CZ to read, but if he did come over and read only one post, this is the one I would want him to read.

 

[LandryFan]

So what have the NFL owners who have won the last 23 SBs done compared to Jerry? Here is a list of what they do and don’t do:

WHAT SUCCESSFUL NFL OWNERS DO: (The ones winning the last 23 SBs)

1. Successful NFL owners hire a GM who then hires a HC. The HC is allowed to hire his own staff.
2. The GM is held accountable for results. Usually 4-5 years are considered enough time to prove they can win or at least compete for a championship by making at least a conf championship game.
3. A good GM is sometimes kept for more than one HC tenure, depending on their success or progress.
4. The owner stays out of football operations by letting the guy he hired as GM run that side of the business.
5. If the GM isn’t getting it done in 5 years, it’s usually time for a change and a new GM is hired.​

WHAT SUCCESSFUL NFL OWNERS DO NOT DO:

1. They NEVER run the football side of operations. Why? Just look at the last 23 winners of the SB. Not one owner was the GM. Zero.
2. They don’t allow ALL their kids to have jobs with no accountability. If you’re going to have your kids have jobs with the on-field results side of the business, if the team doesn’t win, changes must be made.
3. Successful NFL owners don’t hold post game press conferences because they have hired professional football people to do that and they realize by speaking to the media too much, they undermine their HC and players.
4. They never override a coach’s discipline of players. Owners can state what their values are but let the people they hire discipline the players.
​

This is certainly an incomplete list.
But it is crystal clear: IF YOU ARE AN NFL OWNER, AND WANT TO WIN A SUPER BOWL, THERE ARE SOME DO’S AND DON’TS TO FOLLOW OR YOUR TEAM WILL END UP WITH 24 YEARS WITH 3 PLAYOFF WINS.

I'm pretty sure JJ is the only owner/GM (since Al Davis departed the scene), so really, you can't make those comparisons with any certainty because of the miniscule sample size (sample size of one). That said, about everything you noted is true.

 

[CouchCoach]

Best post of the year. I know Jerry Jones probably doesn't come over to CZ to read, but if he did come over and read only one post, this is the one I would want him to read.

But....wait......what about my Must Win threads?

 

[erod]

Good owners are like potted plants. You don't give them a second thought.

Bum Bright and Clint Murchison. Most Cowboys fans couldn't have picked them out of a lineup.

When was the last time you heard from Paul Allen or Dan Rooney? Do you think Bob Kraft has a weekly radio show? Have you ever heard John Mara state the injury report after a game? You think Gayle Benson or Zygi Wilf are sitting in on Monday morning coaches meetings?

Jerry is the owner, GM, personnel director, head coach, and offensive and defensive coordinator by default. He makes sure of it, even though he only really does the job as owner.

He needs to shut up.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

.............

He needs to shut up.

I've been saying that for years. But he's not going to. Jerry Jones will continue yippin' his yaps and flappin' his trap while this team stays in mediocrity.

 

[fivetwos]

Real simple....

We have a coach whose philosophy and schemes are so outdated that no one else would consider hiring him as even an assistant.

We have two men acting as GM that are by no means qualified to do so, and no other team would consider hiring.

Think about this for a minute.

 

[Bobhaze]

Good owners are like potted plants. You don't give them a second thought.

Bum Bright and Clint Murchison. Most Cowboys fans couldn't have picked them out of a lineup.

When was the last time you heard from Paul Allen or Dan Rooney? Do you think Bob Kraft has a weekly radio show? Have you ever heard John Mara state the injury report after a game? You think Gayle Benson or Zygi Wilf are sitting in on Monday morning coaches meetings?

Jerry is the owner, GM, personnel director, head coach, and offensive and defensive coordinator by default. He makes sure of it, even though he only really does the job as owner.

He needs to shut up.

I honestly believe if Jerry would just stop talking publicly...just don’t talk...he would greatly help his team and his HC. But he can’t. He’s a complete spotlight addict. He is a heat seeking missile for a camera, microphone or notepad.

It’s pathetic.

 

[DandyDon52]

Then pick another thread to post in. You are not the Jerry police, so you dont have to to look for every thread that mentions that our GM has gone 24 seasons w/o a div playoff win. Look for threads about how great our gm is, if you can find one. Hazey, myself, and hundreds of other posters will be busy throwing the facts back in Jerrys face, since he insists on putting winning at the bottom of his priorities while giving longtime fans the finger.

Btw I know how to spell stadium, but thanks so much for the grammar lesson. And rest up, because next year will be the silver anniversary of Cowboys playoff irrelevance, 25th anniversary of us winning our last div playoff game. If you plan on performing rebuttals against factual threads like this one, you will be very busy defending Jerry against a growing mob of angry Cowboy fans.

Dont forget to buy new jerseys, tshirts, bumper stickers, and season tickets to fully support our "til death do us part" gm.

well said

 

[DandyDon52]

We have two men acting as GM that are by no means qualified to do so, and no other team would consider hiring.

And they have to know looking at their own record lol, but they wont step down and hire a real gm.
Stubborn to a fault.

 

[CouchCoach]

And they have to know looking at their own record lol, but they wont step down and hire a real gm.
Stubborn to a fault.

He sees no reason to do that because his business is insanely successful. The only reason he would do that would be to make his business better.

It's simple, he's hooked on being a celebrity and relevant in his mind and at his age, that is important. As a man starts getting up there, he senses his importance and relevance has slipped with each passing year and he is in fact, disappearing. If you gave Booger the choice of continuing just as things are with another 23 years just like the previous 23 or hire someone else and let them run the show and just hang back and take boat rides and he'd get 2 more rings out of it, I have little doubt that he would not take the latter. His lifeline is running the Cowboys just like his mentor's was running the Raiders.

 

[Bobhaze]

He sees no reason to do that because his business is insanely successful. The only reason he would do that would be to make his business better.

It's simple, he's hooked on being a celebrity and relevant in his mind and at his age, that is important. As a man starts getting up there, he senses his importance and relevance has slipped with each passing year and he is in fact, disappearing. If you gave Booger the choice of continuing just as things are with another 23 years just like the previous 23 or hire someone else and let them run the show and just hang back and take boat rides and he'd get 2 more rings out of it, I have little doubt that he would not take the latter. His lifeline is running the Cowboys just like his mentor's was running the Raiders.

When I hear clip of Jerry droning on at one of his pressers, I often wonder if he wasn’t a billionaire and owner of the Cowboys, would there be any relevance to Jerry? So good point about relevance Coach.

 

[Number1]

Ok....Paul Brown retired in what 1972? Jerry Buss has been dead for how long? One of the points of this thread is what worked in the past doesn’t work today...and we have the last 23 SB winners as evidence.

And I would be a little more open to your side of the argument if any of Jerry’s style had worked the last nearly quarter of a century. His results (or lack of results) speak for themselves.

well said, but I note you left my comments about Landry untouched ...
great decisions are often the changes not made

as far as what you're suggesting ...
you may as well add breaking the break at Monte Carlo to your holiday wish list - JJ is JJ

 

[Plankton]

"Not one owner was the GM. Zero."
ever heard of Paul Brown? or his 7 titles?
you know the guy who built the modern NFL? ... never mind

Paul Brown didn't own the Cleveland Browns. The team was named for him, and he certainly controlled the football operation, but the team was owned by Mickey McBride when the team was founded, and ultimately Art Modell by the early 1960s.

And, his seven titles happened without him owning a team. He didn't own a team until he founded the Bengals in 1967.

 

[Whyjerry]

In the history of the NFL there haven’t been many like Jerry Jones. He is blinded by pure arrogance. He is surrounded by a legion of sycophants that feed his arrogance. He is in a big football town and state with past glory and loyal fans around the world. The team nostalgia also gives Jerry the time to meddle. He is a master salesman and uses that awww shucks shtick to make dumb people believe he cares. He also milks the brand others worked hard to develop for every cent it is worth. The league has never seen another Jerry Jones in my opinion. Al Davis is not close. He was a Bond villain and Oakland is a backwater.

Jerry is a tumor on the franchise. An invasive, deadly tumor.

 

[Kaiser]

Come on Kaiser- you’re a great fan. We disagree sometimes but I appreciate you as a fan. Why can’t opinions just be opinions instead of “whining”? Cowboys fans have a lot of different opinions. But yours or any other’s loyalty should never be questioned.

I didn't mean to single you out, I apologize for that. Whiny is the threads like WhyJerry saying he is giving up being a fan because the team had a 500 record. Whiny is the fact that there are daily threads about Jerry stepping when its been obvious for decades he won't.

My pet peeve is the "23 years", hence my comment. The last couple of games have been debacles - bad. We went to the playoffs two of the last three years - good. We have one of best young cores in the NFL - good. We went through the Dave Campo years - bad.

If people can say "no Super Bowls" in 23 years, I can say "three Super Bowls in 27 years".