The case for Pollard

[phildadon86]

Romo injuries and bad coaching.

Zeke is not making big plays.

Pollard needs to take carries away from Zeke.

Ohhhh so when its Dez its bad coaching. For zeke its his own problem? I see where this is going. Have a great day

 

[gjkoeppen]

I don't believe that Zeke wore them down. They knew Dallas would be running the ball at the end of the game yet they couldn't contain Pollard. They were still playing to win the game, as evident of the stupid 2 point conversions when they had absolutely no chance of winning with 3 minutes to play. Pollard to me just seems to have better vision, better balance and definitely more speed.

Often time Elliott has pick up some big runs in the second half of games because the O-line wore down the defense. The defense would still try to stop Elliott but because they were getting worn down bigger runs came. Well Pollard got the advantage of Elliott and the line wearing down the defense. Pollard is faster than Elliott but he also doesn't have Elliott's power. Do get me wrong I've been critical of the 5 subpar games Elliott has had this season, but I also don't think Pollard could take the pounding of being the normal every down back.
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[cern]

Pollard moves the chains on 25.7% of his carries and Zeke moves the chains on 25.5% of his carries. They are moving the chains at the same pace.

Interesting stat. But given that zeke carries the ball much more, those numbers would be askewed, would they not.

 

[CATCH17]

Ohhhh so when its Dez its bad coaching. For zeke its his own problem? I see where this is going. Have a great day

No I do think it's fair to say our coaches don't do much to get Zeke into space but they did the same thing in 2016 and he still made big plays.

Big plays have just vanished from his game and that is what used to make him special was his ability to grind out teams while also being a homerun threat.

Zeke set a high standard and he's not playing up to it and he just physically doesn't look capable of making big plays. Maybe eating big buffets but not big plays.

 

[Retro88]

Bell cow's are overrated in 2019..

No they're not. How's Kamara doing?

 

[cern]

8.9 YPC.

That is what Felix Jones averaged his rookie year.

Seriously, you guys have been fans for way too long to fall for the lightly built scatback taking over for the bellcow. Two different types of backs for two different purposes.

LDS syndrome. (Lance Dunbar syndrome)

 

[robjay04]

You do know Zeke’s average is going to down when m you take short yardage/goal line runs? Take away Zeke’s 4 carries within the 10 and Zeke’s YPC jumps to just shy of 6 YPC.

Cowboys offense was rolling halfway through the 3rd quarter with 5 straight scoring drives. Pollard takes over for a drive, loses yardage twice which led to our only punt of the night besides the first drive of the game.

Actually...Pollard had no gain or negative yardage on 3 of his carries compared to zero for Zeke. Those kind of plays stall drives and limiting those is what makes Zeke special.

I like both players but anyone actually watching the game could see how demoralizing Zeke is. Pollards game compliments his perfectly...I don’t see why we have to drag one down to pick up the other.

 

[phildadon86]

No I do think it's fair to say our coaches don't do much to get Zeke into space but they did the same thing in 2016 and he still made big plays.

Big plays have just vanished from his game and that is what used to make him special was his ability to grind out teams while also being a homerun threat.

Zeke set a high standard and he's not playing up to it and he just physically doesn't look capable of making big plays. Maybe eating big buffets but not big plays.

Lets see what coach Urban does for Zeke next year. Zeke was making people miss a lot yesterday. Also. Pollard was tackled in the backfield on more than one occasion. Zeke RARELY doesnt get positive yardage. That is the difference.

 

[Aviano90]

Interesting stat. But given that zeke carries the ball much more, those numbers would be askewed, would they not.

Potentially. We'll have to keep track of it and see how it changes over time. But, for me, it just seems like our running games is just being as effective as it always is, regardless of the RB. They just have different styles. Zeke may pound it up the middle for 8 yards and Pollard may bounce it outside for 8 yards, as an example.

 

[CATCH17]

No they're not. How's Kamara doing?

Kamara is doing fine im sure considering he plays on one of the best teams in the the NFC and Zeke plays for a team scraping to make the playoffs.

We need more explosive plays... Zeke isn't providing them.

 

[CATCH17]

Lets see what coach Urban does for Zeke next year. Zeke was making people miss a lot yesterday. Also. Pollard was tackled in the backfield on more than one occasion. Zeke RARELY doesnt get positive yardage. That is the difference.

Zeke is the king of the little play. I do not deny that.

Coaches will let Dallas have all the little plays they want. Eventually Tyron will hold someone or Dak will throw a pass that's either uncatchable or gets dropped.

Remember Aikman saying Belichick didn't seemed to concerned about the Cowboys run game?

Belichick gets it... Stop the big plays.. Let Zeke sputter out over and over. It won't win us anything.

 

[Quickdraw]

You do know Zeke’s average is going to down when m you take short yardage/goal line runs? Take away Zeke’s 4 carries within the 10 and Zeke’s YPC jumps to just shy of 6 YPC.

Cowboys offense was rolling halfway through the 3rd quarter with 5 straight scoring drives. Pollard takes over for a drive, loses yardage twice which led to our only punt of the night besides the first drive of the game.

Actually...Pollard had no gain or negative yardage on 3 of his carries compared to zero for Zeke. Those kind of plays stall drives and limiting those is what makes Zeke special.

I like both players but anyone actually watching the game could see how demoralizing Zeke is. Pollards game compliments his perfectly...I don’t see why we have to drag one down to pick up the other.

Who's dragging anyone down? It's a simple comparison. You guys read into things too much.

 

[Trendnet]

You arent big on history are you? Just because the kid comes in to SPELL someone doesnt make him the lead dog. It just doesnt. History has proven that time and time again. Look at Kamara's fall off since Ingram left.

I'm sure at any moment now, he'll tell us how Joseph Randle would have matched Murray's production if only he got the ball more.

 

[phildadon86]

Zeke is the king of the little play. I do not deny that.

Coaches will let Dallas have all the little plays they want. Eventually Tyron will hold someone or Dak will throw a pass that's either uncatchable or gets dropped.

Remember Aikman saying Belichick didn't seemed to concerned about the Cowboys run game?

Belichick gets it... Stop the big plays.. Let Zeke sputter out over and over. It won't win us anything.

Dez didnt win us anything either. At all.

 

[Aviano90]

Lets see what coach Urban does for Zeke next year. Zeke was making people miss a lot yesterday. Also. Pollard was tackled in the backfield on more than one occasion. Zeke RARELY doesnt get positive yardage. That is the difference.

Zeke has lost yardage on 17 of his 270 carries = 6.3% of his carries he loses yards. Pollard has lost yards on 6 of his 70 carries = 8.6% of his carries.

 

[CATCH17]

Dez didnt win us anything either. At all.

We didn't rely on Dez.. We relied on Romo.

This team relies on Zeke. Zeke is not delivering big plays.

 

[cern]

You do know Zeke’s average is going to down when m you take short yardage/goal line runs? Take away Zeke’s 4 carries within the 10 and Zeke’s YPC jumps to just shy of 6 YPC.

Cowboys offense was rolling halfway through the 3rd quarter with 5 straight scoring drives. Pollard takes over for a drive, loses yardage twice which led to our only punt of the night besides the first drive of the game.

Actually...Pollard had no gain or negative yardage on 3 of his carries compared to zero for Zeke. Those kind of plays stall drives and limiting those is what makes Zeke special.

I like both players but anyone actually watching the game could see how demoralizing Zeke is. Pollards game compliments his perfectly...I don’t see why we have to drag one down to pick up the other.

I love logical arguments. Wish everyone did. His 4 carries inside the 10 really puts things in perspective.

 

[CATCH17]

I'm sure at any moment now, he'll tell us how Joseph Randle would have matched Murray's production if only he got the ball more.

I'm not saying anything controversial. Maybe Jerry Jones thinks like you do but it's well known that if you give just about any RB top tier volume they will produce at a top tier level statistically.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Lets see what coach Urban does for Zeke next year. Zeke was making people miss a lot yesterday. Also. Pollard was tackled in the backfield on more than one occasion. Zeke RARELY doesnt get positive yardage. That is the difference.

This season Elliott has been getting tackled behind or at the line of scrimmage in at least 5 games for sure and probably 12 of the 14 games.. Second, the odds are so tiny that Meyers will be the next head coach in Dallas. Why, because college coaches that become 1st time NFL head coaches have such a dismal record with that first team. You have to go all the way back to Jimmy Johnson as a college coach as a 1st time NFL head coach to win a Super Bowl with his first team. And don't say Meyers said he wants the job because that's not what he said. He said that the Cowboys coaching job was the only NFL job he would even CONSIDER thinking about taking. Saying thinking about taking a job isn't the same as saying I want the job.
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[phildadon86]

This season Elliott has been getting tackled behind or at the line of scrimmage in at least 5 games for sure and probably 12 of the 14 games.. Second, the odds are so tiny that Meyers will be the next head coach in Dallas. Why, because college coaches that become 1st time NFL head coaches have such a dismal record with that first team. You have to go all the way back to Jimmy Johnson as a college coach as a 1st time NFL head coach to win a Super Bowl with his first team. And don't say Meyers said he wants the job because that's not what he said. He said that the Cowboys coaching job was the only NFL job he would even CONSIDER thinking about taking. Saying thinking about taking a job isn't the same as saying I want the job.
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He said he would take the call. Thats enough for me. And yes he has been. How many times a game is the question. Every back gets tackled behind the line occasionally. I am saying more often than not. Zeke finds ways for positive yardage.