The case for Pollard

[trickblue]

And he didn’t do anything Pollard couldn’t do which is proven by the stats but Jerry over paid him because he acted like the diva baby he is.

I love Pollard, but he's not Zeke...

 

[aria]

Congrats! You’ve won the Dumbest Post of the Year Award! You must be proud.

And you’ve won the dumbest response of the year! That’s typical for someone with the mentality of a 5 year old, ignore the facts and answer questions with something completely irrelevant and immature. Do you have a mom joke you learned on the playground today?

 

[quickccc]

Zeke's Power running softened that D up like a Tenderized Steak. Pollard broke off 2 big runs as he should. That's what the change of pace back is supposed to do.

true, zeke's power game is a benefit to this run game and offense,
and even single season record holder Demarco Murray didnt drag tacklers for additonal forward yards upon contact the way zeke does it .

but i'll continue to say and suggest that it was his zeke's burst and breakway home run ability that separated him from the likes of serviceable backs like Murray.
That is what opposing teams fear the most when facing zeke, and why they simply could not let up on any run play or RB screen pass.
He was a back breaker with those big splash plays. That's the element I so badly want to get back with him.

And it's gonna take a true difference maker of a new HC to better identify that and try to get that zeke version back. ...imo.

 

[aria]

I love Pollard, but he's not Zeke...

No, they have different skill sets which is great for a team but there’s not a doubt in my mind that every game we’ve won we would have won with Zeke OR Pollard. In other words, Zeke (or any RB for that matter) isn’t worth what they paid him, especially when you have a top O line.

 

[BourbonBalz]

No, they have different skill sets which is great for a team but there’s not a doubt in my mind that every game we’ve won we would have won with Zeke OR Pollard. In other words, Zeke (or any RB for that matter) isn’t worth what they paid him, especially when you have a top O line.

Way to keep moving the goalpost. The OP had NOTHING to do with Elliott’s contract. The OP was a ridiculous claim that Pollard is better than Elliott. If you agree with that garbage, you’re simply not bright. EVERY single NFL analyst has repeatedly stated that Elliott makes the Cowboys go and universally agree that the offense has to run through him. Based on your reasoning, I guess the 49er’s never needed Jerry Rice because they had Montana and Young. Pathetic!

 

[kskboys]

Way to keep moving the goalpost. The OP had NOTHING to do with Elliott’s contract. The OP was a ridiculous claim that Pollard is better than Elliott. If you agree with that garbage, you’re simply not bright. EVERY single NFL analyst has repeatedly stated that Elliott makes the Cowboys go and universally agree that the offense has to run through him. Based on your reasoning, I guess the 49er’s never needed Jerry Rice because they had Montana and Young. Pathetic!

Joe won two super bowls before Rice got there!!!!!!

I do agree w/ your premise, though.

 

[G2]

No, they have different skill sets which is great for a team but there’s not a doubt in my mind that every game we’ve won we would have won with Zeke OR Pollard. In other words, Zeke (or any RB for that matter) isn’t worth what they paid him, especially when you have a top O line.

Rinse and repeat.

 

[McKDaddy]

So what’s your point?

that i don't feel they are the second best run blocking team for most of the year while acknowledging that each persons "feeling" on any topic is somewhat subjective. ie, trying to state why i feel the way i do but also understanding your viewpoint.

 

[Quickdraw]

Damn good thing you aren’t a coach. Dumb take.

Yet another person who thinks their opinion is the only one that matters. Good to know.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

“I love Houston!” = “I love living in an armpit of a city with a permanently sunken housing market, awful schools systems, et cetera!”

So do the 7 million other people there wishing they had an opportunity to leave, lool.

wow, I must have really hurt your anal cavity for you to respond to my posts unprovoked, trying to go on an attack

you are by far the dumbest idiot I have seen on this board....

you buffoon, there are people on this board who live in alabama, small town tennessee and west virginia, NY, LA (OMG), SF, Utah, North Dakota and all over US...so you want to attack me, because I ripped your anal hole 4 inch wide, you are in pain and just looking for something to attack....then grow up....grow some balls, just attack, don't look for the dumbest excuse there is, because you look like a moron that you are.....so you want to tell me Exxon CEO is a moron to move their head quarters to Houston? you want to tell the world, both Bush President's and Barbara bush are stupid for choosing to live in Houston...*** is wrong with you kid? I bet those jail mates of yours are enjoying the anal widening you been given...you are probably enjoying some double decker action....

my gawd you are dumb and take

p.s.
I find it funny, you being in jail and all and trying to pass yourself as a calpoly intellectual...too funny and too obvious...

 

[aria]

Way to keep moving the goalpost. The OP had NOTHING to do with Elliott’s contract. The OP was a ridiculous claim that Pollard is better than Elliott. If you agree with that garbage, you’re simply not bright. EVERY single NFL analyst has repeatedly stated that Elliott makes the Cowboys go and universally agree that the offense has to run through him. Based on your reasoning, I guess the 49er’s never needed Jerry Rice because they had Montana and Young. Pathetic!

Congratulations on formulating an actual response, I didn’t know it was possible but as usual, you’re still wrong. LOL,”EVERY single NFL analyst”, huh? It’s not universally agreed that the offense runs through Zeke, some people say that but not everyone. Please enlighten me, what games have we won only due to Zeke that we wouldn’t have won with Pollard?

Your comparison to Jerry Rice doesn’t even make sense, try again but this time use your brain.

 

[INCowboysFan]

that was college, and there's been a number of ex-collegiate players that didn't start or get the spot light attention or wasn't drafted in 1st round but rather later on in middle,
.. or even late (ala Aaron Jones- GB) that have ascended more than what their role was in.

If there was a do-over draft from what they are seeing now from lesser regarded college backs like Pollard, Kamara, Aaron Jones, etc. do you think teams would have jump on them much earlier in the
draft as to where they eventually went during the year-round they were drafted in ?

Aaron Jones was the lead back at UTEP, rushing for over 4K yards in his career, so he has shown that he can handle the load. Pollard was the change of pace back at Memphis and only had 104 rushing attempts in his entire career there. Pollard is what he is, which is a good back up running back. I happen to agree that they can get more creative in using him, but in no way should Zeke's role be reduced just to get Pollard more carries.

 

[cern]

has anyone's opinion been changed? doesn't appear that way. it's become an argumentum ad hominem thread.

 

[Colombiacowboy]

How does it change the stats? We are looking at averages.

Meaning if he had played in the 4th quarter instead of Pollard, their carries, total yards and yards per carry would be different.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

wow, I must have really hurt your anal cavity for you to respond to my posts unprovoked, trying to go on an attack

you are by far the dumbest idiot I have seen on this board....

you buffoon, there are people on this board who live in alabama, small town tennessee and west virginia, NY, LA (OMG), SF, Utah, North Dakota and all over US...so you want to attack me, because I ripped your anal hole 4 inch wide, you are in pain and just looking for something to attack....then grow up....grow some balls, just attack, don't look for the dumbest excuse there is, because you look like a moron that you are.....so you want to tell me Exxon CEO is a moron to move their head quarters to Houston? you want to tell the world, both Bush President's and Barbara bush are stupid for choosing to live in Houston...*** is wrong with you kid? I bet those jail mates of yours are enjoying the anal widening you been given...you are probably enjoying some double decker action....

my gawd you are dumb and take

p.s.
I find it funny, you being in jail and all and trying to pass yourself as a calpoly intellectual...too funny and too obvious...

 

[Quickdraw]

Way to keep moving the goalpost. The OP had NOTHING to do with Elliott’s contract. The OP was a ridiculous claim that Pollard is better than Elliott. If you agree with that garbage, you’re simply not bright. EVERY single NFL analyst has repeatedly stated that Elliott makes the Cowboys go and universally agree that the offense has to run through him. Based on your reasoning, I guess the 49er’s never needed Jerry Rice because they had Montana and Young. Pathetic!

I guess in your mind, the only opinion that matters is yours. So why bother coming to a forum for opinions? Get over yourself. If you don't like the comment, then move along. Some people need to learn social skills.

 

[Aviano90]

Meaning if he had played in the 4th quarter instead of Pollard, their carries, total yards and yards per carry would be different.

Well obviously, but you changed the “stats” by wanting to remove Pollard’s long run. He had 3 long runs. All I did was remove them all and then removed Zeke’s 3 longest runs to be fair to see what their averages were without the long runs.

Not sure why people want to diminish Pollard’s great day just to try and give Zeke more credit by wearing the defense down. Pollard has a long run in the 2nd half, another on at the beginning of the 4th and then the long TD run late in the 4th quarter. Pollard ran well prior to the defense getting tired and was also a part of the reason for why the defense was tired.

 

[OmerV]

Well obviously, but you changed the “stats” by wanting to remove Pollard’s long run. He had 3 long runs. All I did was remove them all and then removed Zeke’s 3 longest runs to be fair to see what their averages were without the long runs.

Not sure why people want to diminish Pollard’s great day just to try and give Zeke more credit by wearing the defense down. Pollard has a long run in the 2nd half, another on at the beginning of the 4th and then the long TD run late in the 4th quarter. Pollard ran well prior to the defense getting tired and was also a part of the reason for why the defense was tired.

I think most recognize Pollard had a great day, but I also think it's fair to realize he and Zeke play different roles that can't be compared as if they are apples to apples. Being the lead dog game after game after game may not work as well for Pollard as it does for Zeke, and we can't simply assume it would. Of course, there is the chance it might, but we can't know that. Pollard was never even the lead dog in college, so there is no basis for speculating on how he would handle that role. That said, for the role he is asked to play, he has been terrific.

 

[G2]

I like having both.

 

[gjkoeppen]

He said he would take the call. Thats enough for me. And yes he has been. How many times a game is the question. Every back gets tackled behind the line occasionally. I am saying more often than not. Zeke finds ways for positive yardage.

Synday's game was more like the Elliott of 2016 but having 5 games of 60 or less yards doesn't speak well about not getting tackled behind or at the line of scrimmage. As far as Meyers saying he'd take the call, and I didn't hear or read that he actually said that, still is only considering the job not saying he would take the job. Lastly there has been no public statement from Jones that he has any interest in Meyers. All of the "interest" the Cowboys have in Meyers has been generated by users here which doesn't mean squat.
.