No one talking about Matt Rhule this morning?

[Sydla]

Fans are unreasonable. It’s always the QB or the HC. Always. Even when it’s not. They just don’t think so because there’s safety in numbers.

It's been nearly a decade. He has two playoff wins. He has only 3 NFCE titles and never back to back. He just spit out his 5th 8 wins or less season.

To try to argue that it's not Garrett's issues at this point (even partially if you want to blame Jerry as well) is pretty funny at this point.

 

[Idgit]

Hahaha.

You are so salty your boy has failed.

I suspect most fans will give any new head coach a couple of years to figure things out. But if we get into Year 4 or so, and like Garrett, there is little progress, criticism would be justified. It shouldn't take a coach four years (let alone 9) to build a legit franchise.

I have to be saying something salty for you to call me salty. What I’m saying here, I’ve been saying for years at this point.

Lol at the idea of any new coach getting four years, though. Try four losses.

 

[Sydla]

It’s a great example how most casual fans can only evaluate from the results of the game. Lol

Huh?

 

[Diehardblues]

Fans are unreasonable. It’s always the QB or the HC. Always. Even when it’s not. They just don’t think so because there’s safety in numbers.

Yep

Typical couch coaches and Monday morning QB’s.

 

[Sydla]

I have to be saying something salty for you to call me salty. What I’m saying here, I’ve been saying for years at this point.

Lol at the idea of any new coach getting four years, though. Try four losses.

LOL.

Garrett got a fairly smooth ride until that third 8-8 season, then the calls got louder until he spit out that 12-4 year and got a new contract.

 

[texbumthelife]

I'm not a Rhule guy, but Comparing Baylor playing a banged up Georgia to a STACKED Cowboys team playing a banged up Philly is egregious at best. He also lost his starting QB in the game. It's Baylor playing a perrenial powerhouse with one of the best defensive minds in football and even banged up, still one of the most talented teams in CFB.

But, by all means, let's not hire any coaches who've lose games they should have won. That leaves...

 

[HungryLion]

Fans are unreasonable. It’s always the QB or the HC. Always. Even when it’s not. They just don’t think so because there’s safety in numbers.

You’re generalizing. Not a sound argument.

Some fans are unreasonable. Absolutely.

that doesn’t mean that Garrett isn’t responsible for the fact that he hasn’t accomplished anything.

 

[Diehardblues]

Huh?

If we weren’t keeping score how would fans evaluate?

 

[Sydla]

Yep

Typical couch coaches and Monday morning QB’s.

Those couch coaches and Monday morning QBs are right.

How can anyone sit here after a decade and try to argue this isn't, at least partially, Garrett's fault is hilarious to me. It's frankly idiotic at this point.

 

[Diehardblues]

You’re generalizing. Not a sound argument.

Some fans are unreasonable. Absolutely.

that doesn’t mean that Garrett isn’t responsible for the fact that he hasn’t accomplished anything.

But it’s a sound observation.

 

[Future]

Nobody should be talking about Rhule anyways, because Baylor isn't particularly good, and has never even beaten a ranked team under Rhule.

 

[Sydla]

If we weren’t keeping score how would fans evaluate?

Still not sure what point you are trying to make here, although I am sure it's one of your typical fence sitting posts where you wont' criticize Garrett but then will say he might not be a great coach.

When it comes to this topic, no one is more wishy washy than you. You have a crisis of Cowboys fandom in this conversation.

 

[Diehardblues]

Those couch coaches and Monday morning QBs are right.

How can anyone sit here after a decade and try to argue this isn't, at least partially, Garrett's fault is hilarious to me. It's frankly idiotic at this point.

No one has said it’s not partially his fault.

 

[scottsp]

Matt Rhule would not, even under optimal conditions, be recruiting from the same talent pool as Georgia while in Waco. The fact that Baylor - BAYLOR - was in the Sugar Bowl or on the brink of a National Playoff berth is a miracle considering the mess he took on a short time ago.

I am of the belief he's coaching in the NFL soon, likely in 2020. If the Jets would have been smart enough to grant autonomy on his staff, he would be in the league already.

 

[Sydla]

Nobody should be talking about Rhule anyways, because Baylor isn't particularly good, and has never even beaten a ranked team under Rhule.

Baylor was left for dead two years ago. What he has done in two seasons is pretty amazing.

 

[Future]

jerry's past actions with Monty Kiffin for starters. History tends to repeat itself with Jerry.

Uh, Monte Kiffin got moved from D-Coordinator to Head Coach/defense lol. Kiffin's situation has absolutely nothing to do with JG's, and is not evidence of anything.

 

[Sydla]

No one has said it’s not partially his fault.

Then what's the problem here? You can't change the owner. You can only change the coach.

And yet we can often find you here being wishy washy on the whole concept of dumping Garrett.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Rhule is a program builder. A team like the Giants should hire him ASAP to get them through the rebuild. I don't know if he'd be as good of a fit here, where he would be expected to take the team to the next level.

If I were a college team, I'd hire Rhule over Riley. If I were the Cowboys, I'd hire Riley (I think his background as an offensive mind is perfect for today's NFL).

 

[blueblood70]

I am surprised there is not more chatter about Matt Rhule this morning after Baylor was defeated by a banged up Georgia Bulldogs team last night. I admit I haven't watched much college football this year and this was my first real look at Baylor and their head coach, Matt Rhule. Its one game and I will keep that in perspective, but as I watched the game I tried to picture Rhule as the Cowboys Head Coach. The parallels to the Cowboys were inescapable. Georgia was missing a bunch of injured starters yet they dominated. Does that sound familiar? Baylor made a lot of dumb mistakes, like encroachment penalties, dropped passes, and a really bad decision to go for it on 4th and 4 around mid-field early in the 4th quarter. They failed, gave Georgia momentum and a short field. Georgia drove for a TD to basically ice the game. I wonder if Rhule had a Maher-type kicker, would he have tried a 60 yard FG instead of going for it? This was all too reminiscent of the Cowboys 2019 season.

Again, it was one game, but maybe it was a sign that Matt Rhule is not the guy for the Dallas Cowboys.

its not that big of a deal because a coach like they Hired in AZ had bad record in college football but brought a specific scheme and attitude they liked..

the owners are not going to hold it against you that you played against better competition who had better recruiting etc..

they look at the coach and what he brought to the team vs w-ls

I mean Saban, Kelley. and Petrinio had great records and came in and failed

he will get plenty of interviews..

 

[Diehardblues]

Still not sure what point you are trying to make here, although I am sure it's one of your typical fence sitting posts where you wont' criticize Garrett but then will say he might not be a great coach.

When it comes to this topic, no one is more wishy washy than you. You have a crisis of Cowboys fandom in this conversation.

I’m just saying there’s more than just the results of the game to measure coaching and performance of players.