The Reality of Jerry Jones GM and Owner

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Jerry Jones took one drunk night to fire a back to back winning Super Bowl Head Coach in Jimmy Johnson.

He will take until Jason Garrett's contract actually expires (1-14-2020) to part from a coach that lost 4 games that decided the NFC East and playoffs in 4 different season 3 of which was in a row, was interim HC coach that finished 6-10, went 4-12, 9-7, and 8-8 the non-playoff seasons. So Garrett 10 years had 7 non playoff seasons.

Jerry Jones does not take long to make decisions. He fired Tom Landry the day he became the owner of the Dallas Cowboys and was seen at a Dallas Restaurant the night before with his new Head Coach, he meet with Bill Parcells to be the HC of the Cowboys while Dave Campo was still HC, he passed on Randy Moss even though he had a scout with plane tickets in wait for the future HOF and 100 yr All time WR, he quickly he traded a 1st and 3rd round pick for a WR that team went 0-16 and then hired the 0-16 HC as DC. So why so long for Jason Garrett.

Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells drove Jerry Jones crazy because to get both meant giving up total control. He eventually will get it back. But giving it up is hard. Taking it back is hard. That is the reason for the wait and stress. Jimmy Johnson hung on to full control from 1989-1994, Parcells 2002-2007. Jerry does not want to give 5 years of his late 70's to that type of Super Bowl winning Head Coach. His 12 year experiment with Jason Garrett learning on the Job to be his Tom Landry failed.

With his age at 77, the next HC would likely survive him or at least have more input with Stephen Jones and Will McClay than his input at Owner, GM, and Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Cowboy fans want a GM and Head Coach not named Jerry Jones and it is killing him to lose his control he lost from his own football failures. This will take time. Jerry Jones has time (Garrett expiring contact date), and money (5 Billion dollar franchise).
All this is true as far as you take it.

Jerrah is like alot of successful businessmen.

They attach themselves to their success and do not easily separate lack of success with themselves.

Others get scapegoated and dismissed and the negative issues get a healthy sweep under the rug.

And they move on..but often dragging out the changes
 

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Dudes arguing over whether Jimmy was "fired" or not - it's 2020! :muttley:

When I see guys doing the "Jerry did not fire Jimmy" routine I immediately think Jerry Rationalist, trying to convince himself that the mastermind is still running the show.

Meanwhile, Jerry has won as many trophies in the 21st century as Jimmy, who has been sitting in a TV studio (or fishing) the entire time.
You're preaching to the choir.
 

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parcells started to lose control after his second year....when Jerry went out and got TO, despite parcells objections and several other moves....parcells decided he had enough and he knew he wasn't going to win anything in dallas. he was smart and left
Absolutely right. Between "the Player" as he refereed to TO during the "suicide press conference", and Romo not making "the most fundamental play in football", he was out of there and made sure his chose replacement Sean Payton left first.
 

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Absolutely right. Between "the Player" as he refereed to TO during the "suicide press conference", and Romo not making "the most fundamental play in football", he was out of there and made sure his chose replacement Sean Payton left first.
its to bad because had he stayed for the 2007 season, we could have played in and possibly won the Super Bowl..Would have been one of the most epic match ups between Him and Bellichek...undefeated Pats..instead we had the exact opposite of what we needed in Phillips ..lack of discipline and detail...Romo and Whitten would have never gone to Cabo..They would have been battled hardened and sound...
 

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A former Cowboys player posted on Reddit last night about the invasineness of Jerry Jones and how it's hindered the Cowboys. He also hung around and answered questions:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/ejal2d/jason_garrett_was_not_the_leader_the_cowboys/

That guy is a joke. Read this sentence:

When I first walked into the Cowboy's facility as a free agent signing after leaving Jacksonville, I was filled with excitement, yet that would soon turn to annoyance, as I was constantly reminded of the privilege it was to play for the Dallas Cowboys.


In reality he was cut by the Jags, came to training camp with the Cowboys and got cut a few weeks into training camp. Then he pontificates on "the Dallas locker room". You might as well talk to the hot dog vendor.
 

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That guy is a joke. Read this sentence:

When I first walked into the Cowboy's facility as a free agent signing after leaving Jacksonville, I was filled with excitement, yet that would soon turn to annoyance, as I was constantly reminded of the privilege it was to play for the Dallas Cowboys.


In reality he was cut by the Jags, came to training camp with the Cowboys and got cut a few weeks into training camp. Then he pontificates on "the Dallas locker room". You might as well talk to the hot dog vendor.

What's your opinion of the Cowboys locker room and business from your extensive experience both as a player having been there?

This guy has absolutely no reason to make anything up. He didn't go to the media and try to get famous, he posted on Reddit. Yes, it's his personal opinion so there is no reason to hold it as standard, he does however confirm many things former and current players have said. To take exception to with sentence, judge the man, and throw out the rest says a lot more of your character and opinions than it does of his.

He's eloquent, well spoken and the entire piece is well written. He also hung around and answered questions from many fans. You really have to be a self righteous turd to just toss it out.
 

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What's your opinion of the Cowboys locker room and business from your extensive experience both as a player having been there?

Zero, which is why I listen to the vast majority of players who actually were in the regular season locker room for many years. Not an Oxnard hotel room for a few weeks.

Those players say Jerry has his faults for sure, but the pluses outweigh the minuses. They have a hundred times more experience with the Cowboys than this guy has.
 

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You really have to be a self righteous turd to just toss it out.

BTW, "self righteous turd" is getting cut by a team and then publicly writing "When I became a free agent...." knowing everyone can look it up in a few seconds.

And "my short career with the Cowboys" meaning he got a look-see in training camp and cut in the first round of cuts.
 

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Jerry Jones took one drunk night to fire a back to back winning Super Bowl Head Coach in Jimmy Johnson.

He will take until Jason Garrett's contract actually expires (1-14-2020) to part from a coach that lost 4 games that decided the NFC East and playoffs in 4 different season 3 of which was in a row, was interim HC coach that finished 6-10, went 4-12, 9-7, and 8-8 the non-playoff seasons. So Garrett 10 years had 7 non playoff seasons.

Jerry Jones does not take long to make decisions. He fired Tom Landry the day he became the owner of the Dallas Cowboys and was seen at a Dallas Restaurant the night before with his new Head Coach, he meet with Bill Parcells to be the HC of the Cowboys while Dave Campo was still HC, he passed on Randy Moss even though he had a scout with plane tickets in wait for the future HOF and 100 yr All time WR, he quickly he traded a 1st and 3rd round pick for a WR that team went 0-16 and then hired the 0-16 HC as DC. So why so long for Jason Garrett.

Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells drove Jerry Jones crazy because to get both meant giving up total control. He eventually will get it back. But giving it up is hard. Taking it back is hard. That is the reason for the wait and stress. Jimmy Johnson hung on to full control from 1989-1994, Parcells 2002-2007. Jerry does not want to give 5 years of his late 70's to that type of Super Bowl winning Head Coach. His 12 year experiment with Jason Garrett learning on the Job to be his Tom Landry failed.

With his age at 77, the next HC would likely survive him or at least have more input with Stephen Jones and Will McClay than his input at Owner, GM, and Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Cowboy fans want a GM and Head Coach not named Jerry Jones and it is killing him to lose his control he lost from his own football failures. This will take time. Jerry Jones has time (Garrett expiring contact date), and money (5 Billion dollar franchise).

The team is an expensive hobby, but it explains why they go on vacation at the most crucial times..

Give Will McClay power to at least snatch up free agents and interview coaches...
 

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BTW, "self righteous turd" is getting cut by a team and then publicly writing "When I became a free agent...." knowing everyone can look it up in a few seconds.

And "my short career with the Cowboys" meaning he got a look-see in training camp and cut in the first round of cuts.

Oh, you're one of those, "it's not what you say it's how you say it" kind of people. Personally, I appreciate the opinion of people with more experience than me on something, no matter how much less experience they have. He didn't come out and profess to have a wealth of knowledge, he gave an opinion.

You absolutely have every right to not agree. Being a self-righteous turd is denegrating the guy for your own self imposed standards even though his opinion carries infinitely more weight than yours due actually having real experience in a Cowboys locker room.

By your standards, you need to keep every opinion to yourself from here on out seeing as you've never even been cut from the team.
 

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Oh, you're one of those,

Yeah, I'm one of those that listens to lectures on the Cowboys locker room from players who.... you know.... actually were in the Cowboys locker room instead of spending a few weeks in training camp.

You are one of those that will grasp at straws if it backs up some preconceived hatred you already have. Despite literally hundreds of players who actually were in that locker room saying the opposite.
 

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I’m so torn on Jerry. Right now the way he’s handling this isn’t different than other things but it doesn’t stop me from thinking he’s an absolute idiot whose dealings...like now..have hampered us for 25 years. Don’t care that he’s worth, as a GM he’s an idiot
 

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Yeah, I'm one of those that listens to lectures on the Cowboys locker room from players who.... you know.... actually were in the Cowboys locker room instead of spending a few weeks in training camp.

You are one of those that will grasp at straws if it backs up some preconceived hatred you already have. Despite literally hundreds of players who actually were in that locker room saying the opposite.
Still... it was a nicely written post by Uche.
Grammatically speaking.
 

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Still... it was a nicely written post by Uche.
Grammatically speaking.

Sure, he is clearly a smart guy. But he is also clearly out of his lane writing about the Cowboys when he never played a regular season snap for the team. It reads like he is auditioning for an ESPN job.
 

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He cares about 2 things: money, and his own ego. If he were to - for example - bring in a coach like Urban Meyer, Meyer wins a title in the next year or 2, Meyer will get all the credit.

Jerry Jones has no more interest in letting someone else get credit for the Cowboys winning than he does in getting a massive case of kidney stones. He'd rather lose every year with him pulling the strings than win with someone who could be the 2nd coming of Jimmy Johnson. He's proven that already with the Parcells/stadium hire.
The sad but honest truth in a nutshell!!
 

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Yeah, I'm one of those that listens to lectures on the Cowboys locker room from players who.... you know.... actually were in the Cowboys locker room instead of spending a few weeks in training camp.

You are one of those that will grasp at straws if it backs up some preconceived hatred you already have. Despite literally hundreds of players who actually were in that locker room saying the opposite.

If hundreds of players had to come out and say Jerry meddling never effected the team, that the Cowboys have lost their luster, that they're living in the past, that Jerry undermines the coach, that would literally be the greatest indicator that all of those things are true. I don't even have to have played for the Cowboys to know this team definitely holds itself to some grandiose level that it's long since not played up to. Or that Jerry meddles. Or that there is some unearned sense of greatness with this team. It's on display every Sunday and consistently otherwise. Which pretty much sums up what he says.

You didn't even read the full comment from this guy, obviously. He says things just about everyone has said already. He's simply confirming based on his experience, albeit very limited. Romo has come out and said almost everything this guy does. As have other players. You read one thing you didn't like and passed judgment.

You're being a cynical old curmudgeon as usual when an opinion doesn't fit yours. It's well documented around here.

Admit it, you didn't read it.
 

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Sure, he is clearly a smart guy. But he is also clearly out of his lane writing about the Cowboys when he never played a regular season snap for the team. It reads like he is auditioning for an ESPN job.

You didn't even read the whole thing. It's patently obvious. Who "auditions for ESPN" on Reddit? Cynical old fart.
 
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