For the money Dak wants, Cowboys could get just about any QB they want

ABQCOWBOY

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Or they can do what they're going to do. Resign their top 10, quickly emerging top 5 franchise QB to a long term contract. Just like what the 31 other teams general managers would do if they were lucky enough to have him!

Then they should give him the none exclusive tag and find out what the market will offer him. Once they know that, then the Cowboys can decide to match the offer or accept the two number 1 picks in exchange for Dak. That would serve all parties best in my view. It would once and for all, set the market or it would compensate the Cowboys for the loss of Prescott.
 

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Ok, good, now we've reached the next level of the Dak O Phant. Romo critique.

What's next? Can't wait to see it LOL.

You're flailing bro. Just let it go. It's ok

That wasn’t a Romo criticism. If anything, Romo deserved to make the pro bowl more than he did — which is my whole point. Being a Cowboys QB is a double edged sword. It’s exposure combined with unrealistic expectations.

As a general rule, if you feel compelled to point out you’re winning, you’re not.
 

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Value is the answer but like I said people like you like to get conveniently obtuse. I say don’t even bring him back but at least at 25 that’s a better deal for his skill set than 35-40. Can’t believe all of a sudde people know nothing about value smh.
Don’t call me obtuse. That’s rude. I have never been rude to you. Lol.. I just don’t get it. 32-36 is the going rate for a starting NFL franchise QB. For some it’s not ok to pay that much for him but he could be our starter or franchise for 25. It’s the market price. I understand people value him at a certain price but it just doesn’t work that way. If they wanted him cheaper then they should have signed him before wentz.
 

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if you have to replace Dak then you need to use a 1st rd pick,there is no other way.i for one am wary about this a lot and i dont trust this scouting department either,they thought a lot of Manziel and paxton lynch.
No I agree they have to use a first rd pick but I’m saying they haven’t been using them like you previously mentioned. I also agree they haven’t shown the best track record going by who they wanted to draft but how do we know that Lynch wouldn’t worked out here? I won’t say Manziel because we had a chance to draft him outright and didn’t do it.
 

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Before the season, and mid season I would have still wanted Dak on our team. However in the end you are correct. He lacks the pinpoint accuracy and decision making when it is needed the most. He had all the weapons at his disposal. The Cowboys should have run over the NFC. The new coach is the one who should make the decision and not Jerry. If we had Brady the Cowboys would be favored to win the Super Bowl.
 

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Don’t call me obtuse. That’s rude. I have never been rude to you. Lol.. I just don’t get it. 32-36 is the going rate for a starting NFL franchise QB. For some it’s not ok to pay that much for him but he could be our starter or franchise for 25. It’s the market price. I understand people value him at a certain price but it just doesn’t work that way. If they wanted him cheaper then they should have signed him before wentz.
I did say conveniently before obtuse at least lol. I don’t want him back at all but if they can get him under market value ok. It’s also most likely he comes back and I get that just hope it’s for cheap relatively speaking.
 

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Hey, I have another idea!!! If you don't like what I post, don't read it!!!!!!!
You might need to stop your ideas for the day your looking stupid out here. Show me where I said I don’t like what you posted? That dog doesn’t hunt even though I know you said “if” while basically implying I didn’t like your post. I just think it’s silly to complain about a thread you can easily avoid. I guess it’s not that easy because people stay replying in threads they claim not to like.
 

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That wasn’t a Romo criticism. If anything, Romo deserved to make the pro bowl more than he did — which is my whole point. Being a Cowboys QB is a double edged sword. It’s exposure combined with unrealistic expectations.

As a general rule, if you feel compelled to point out you’re winning, you’re not.

Ok I totally misread the intent of that particular post. My apologies on that
 

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Dak is our QB of the future, whether we like it or not. Get used to it.
 

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You might need to stop your ideas for the day your looking stupid out here. Show me where I said I don’t like what you posted? That dog doesn’t hunt even though I know you said “if” while basically implying I didn’t like your post. I just think it’s silly to complain about a thread you can easily avoid. I guess it’s not that easy because people stay replying in threads they claim not to like.
Now that is some funny stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you figure out why? I'll leave you to it, but I have serious doubts!!!
 

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Dak is not going to sign a Franchise Tag or any other tag. He already did his prove it year. Dak has $50,000,000 in the bank from commercials. He does not need to sign anything.

Dallas thinks they need Dak more than they really do.

Dak does not need Dallas.... he really does.... he just does not realize it. His arrogance makes him think he can go play for the Bengals or Browns and dominate.

Perception is reality.

In the negotiations Dak has the upper hand.

Another factor is his agent will never let him sign a tag.... that would mean the agent failed Dak. They were hired solely for the reason of securing him a long term contract with a boatload of guaranteed money. Dak defers a lot to his agent's advice. They will have his ear. And they will not allow it..... if they do not get Dak what Dak originally wanted & hired them for, than long term that costs them money with Dak and other potential client's.
 

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I'm from Plano and lived in Dallas and I live in another NFL city now and what I pay for a 2 bedroom apartment is what I would have to pay for a studio or 1 bedroom apartment in Dallas. I've lived in or suburbs of 6 NFL cities and as I said Dallas isn't the highest cost of living but is far higher than you want to say it is.
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so you are glossing over the no income state tax? like its not abig difference? I havent done the math not know what other states charge in state tax that we dont but I think its pretty close to that 3-5mil difference..

the endorsements he gets here will also be offsetting as they are the most exposed and covered team in the nfl..? apartments maybe but talking buying land and having a home built and its a known fact you get more for your money here compared to a lot of major states..
 

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Now that is some funny stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you figure out why? I'll leave you to it, but I have serious doubts!!!
I don’t know why it’s funny to you and don’t care. You’re another person that wants to come online and pretend your something more than you are irl. It’s not believable sir.
 

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Well, I understand the whole 32/33 number that has been discussed in general but that's not the way the Tag works, which is what was being discussed. The tag, depending on which one you use, is an average of the top average Salaries in a given year. For example, the Exclusive Franchise Tag is an average of the top 5 salaries at the QB position. A None Exclusive Franchise Tag is an average of the top 5 cap hits at the QB position. A Transitional Tag is an average of the top 10 salaries at the QB position of the prior year. So there are a few different types of Tag that could be applied but none of them, so far as I can tell, average out to 32/33 mil a year. This is why I don't understand why the article is suggesting that this would be the contract that Dak would get if the Cowboys tagged him. If the 5 players they named are, in fact, the 5 highest at the QB position, then their numbers are obviously wrong. It could not be 32/33.
the exclusive tag maybe close to that what are the top 5 , its RW around 35, both wentz and goff near 33,. and whos 4th? it might not be 33 with quick math if the 4th is around 28...

Now the Non exclusive tag would be the average of top five the last 5 years not this year and thats around 28 and gives us even more options as he can seek offers we can match, or let him go and get 2 1st rounders.. why in the world would you not use this one and let Dak and his agent see what the true market is for him.. im betting not many offers given they have to give up 2 1sts so we get him for 28..maybe then he softens and takes a deal closer to 30?
 

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the exclusive tag maybe close to that what are the top 5 , its RW around 35, both wentz and goff near 33,. and whos 4th? it might not be 33 with quick math if the 4th is around 28...

Now the Non exclusive tag would be the average of top five the last 5 years not this year and thats around 28 and gives us even more options as he can seek offers we can match, or let him go and get 2 1st rounders.. why in the world would you not use this one and let Dak and his agent see what the true market is for him.. im betting not many offers given they have to give up 2 1sts so we get him for 28..maybe then he softens and takes a deal closer to 30?

Nope, they aren't. I already posted the numbers on that. The top 5 in an exclusive tag situations is like 27.6 or so.

I posted the same thing with regards to the None Exclusive Tag. I would absolutely use that on him and let his agent go out and see what that actual market value is. I would pay Dak exactly what I offered him at the beginning of the year, if it were me working this deal but, if the Cowboys are really interested in paying him a market fair deal, then Nonexclusive is the way to do that. That's the most fair thing for everybody IMO.
 

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Nope, they aren't. I already posted the numbers on that. The top 5 in an exclusive tag situations is like 27.6 or so.

I posted the same thing with regards to the None Exclusive Tag. I would absolutely use that on him and let his agent go out and see what that actual market value is. I would pay Dak exactly what I offered him at the beginning of the year, if it were me working this deal but, if the Cowboys are really interested in paying him a market fair deal, then Nonexclusive is the way to do that. That's the most fair thing for everybody IMO.
agreed
 

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I did say conveniently before obtuse at least lol. I don’t want him back at all but if they can get him under market value ok. It’s also most likely he comes back and I get that just hope it’s for cheap relatively speaking.
Lol. I wouldn’t be surprised if they tag him. Is JJ gonna get a real HC and give him some control in the attempt to get the SB. They may get a HC that don’t want him but I think most wouldn’t have a problem kicking the tires for a year.
 
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