How I think Mike McCarthy Impacts Dak Prescott

[conner01]

momtanas*

Right
It was Montana
I guess you watched too lol

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Don't see my big 3 posted on this topic yet, still early though.

 

[shabazz]

I think McCarthy very much can get more out of Dak IF Dak puts in the time and effort to learn how to use the WCO. I think Dak's running ability here will be key as well. As you correctly point out, Rodgers ran quite a bit in his best years. Thus, the defences were frozen because of a concern for if Rodgers would run it. I think Dak is a better runner than Rodgers is. Thus, this advantage shifts more to Dak. If Dak can use his mobility more with McCarthy, then that will open up more options for the WRs and Zeke. Thus, Dak can be more effective. I think this is also a key to the WCO is having a QB that can scramble, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know if Dak is elite, but I think he's a very good QB. And I think coaching can help him move to the elite tier. That's where I find it so difficult to judge if Dak is elite or not. How do I judge someone when they were coached by Jason Garrett? I think we can at least all agree that McCarthy is twice the coach Garrett could ever be. He's won a Super Bowl and has been to several NFC Finals. So, I think now we'll have a better chance of evaluating Dak. Just a pity we strapped him down to Garrett for so long.

And we will all differ on wether Dak is Elite or not but the FO has that problem not us, lol. I use the eye test and when I see Qb’s like Rodgers ( back in the day) , Mahomes, Wilson, or Jackson, elevate their teams in spite of deficiencies that’s where I agree that elite money has to be spent. FWIW, I agree that Rodgers is an arrogant bastid, but he hadn’t even talent to put his money where his mouth was

I’m stoked and hopeful that we will be a better offense than we saw in the Saints, Patriots, and final Eagles game. All winnable games

 

[CouchCoach]

Additionally, we are assuming that the WCO will definitely be implemented. If he’s keeping Kellen and he’s believes that the offense isn’t broke we may see the same as before or a hybrid of both offenses. We really are speculating and perhaps McCarthy has other plans

I read that he'd already brought up the RPO about using with Prescott.

The labels on these O's and D's are hardly fixed anymore. Belichick ran the 6/1 in the SB, you've got SEA playing 6 OL.

I do not think he won over the Joneses by talking about making over the offense, that was ranked #1. I think he's going to use some elements of what Prerscott did in college and under Garrett and Moore and add a few wrinkles of his own to max out his potential and minimize his weak points.

As far as the ? about Prescott's consistency with accuracy, your guess is as good as mine. But that did show up as the year wore on and wore on is the right term for me as they wore me out. I was relieved I didn't have to watch them in the playoffs. Now, I feel renewed.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

As I said I like your optimism and I hope you are right....

I certainly hope so too. We'll find out before long, won't we?

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Good post! Really like the fact that McCarthy is going to want Dak to get the ball out of his hands quickly.

Yes, and I believe this to be where Dak will have help and an advantage.

 

[Vandyr]

I think Dak can be an accurate passer.

His accuracy issues can be fixed. He needs to learn to stop throwing at the receiver and start throwing where the receiver will be. That can be fixed, with a little focus and a lot of practice, just like learning to shoot.

However....you'd think that's something he would have picked up on by now. Seems like he's only capable of leading the receiver if they're running away from him, and to me that's a problem.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I know there are a lot of naysayers about Dak Prescott, and he had his struggles last year. However, I do not think he was the main problem last year. We had too many players playing as individuals, and I think the team just gave up on Garrett. McCarthy is a fresh voice to them, and fresh inspiration. Now, with that out the way, here's my take, and laugh at me how you will, but I will make a rather bold statement here.

I think Dak Prescott will be better than Aaron Rodgers because of this hire. I know. I know. A lot of you are going to have a go at me for this. However, let me explain my position.

In the first place, as good as Aaron Rodgers is, he is an absolute egotistical maniac who strikes me as uncoachable. He's got a massive ego, and he seems like he's incredibly difficult to get along with. I can't imagine how difficult he must be to coach from an ego standpoint, as good as he is. Dak Prescott, on the other hand, seems like a rather humble chap who seems like he'd take very strongly to coaching.

In the second place, Mike McCarthy is a WCO chap. I strongly believe that this fits Dak's style. If you noticed early on, he would check down often to his playmakers. This got him the reputation of being a "Check Down Charlie" as I recall. The nice thing about the WCO-style that McCarthy likes is that it allows him to quickly get the ball out and to his playmakers. This would help Dak to 1. not take so many hits/sacks and 2. get Cooper, Gallup, and Zeke the ball in space. This allows them to really have a good scamper against opposing defences. This leads me to my third place point.

In the third place, I think the combination of the coaching that Dak will receive and the style of coaching that McCarthy will bring will be able to allow Dak to do what he does best. Thus, I strongly think that the Dak we will see this year will be remarkably different to the Dak we have seen before this season. As Dak progresses in the McCarthy system, I think his success will become greater than that of Rodgers. Thus, I think he will end up being regarded as better than Rodgers.

A bit bold? Maybe. But that's my take on this. I truly love that we finally have a WCO that can take advantage of what Dak does well. This is what I've been BEGGING for. I initially wanted a Reid chap, but I think McCarthy will be better.

Hope is eternal and maybe magic elves will touch Dak's arm and turn him into a QB who is better than Rodgers?
Mike and Dak will not have a happy ending as Mike is a pass-happy HC and Dak has major flaws and issues with his game in general.
Dream on brother dream on while most of us on planet Earth have seen week in and week out a Tier 3-4 QB holding us back weekly!!!!!
FG anyone?

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

And we will all differ on wether Dak is Elite or not but the FO has that problem not us, lol. I use the eye test and when I see Qb’s like Rodgers ( back in the day) , Mahomes, Wilson, or Jackson, elevate their teams in spite of deficiencies that’s where I agree that elite money has to be spent. FWIW, I agree that Rodgers is an arrogant bastid, but he hadn’t even talent to put his money where his mouth was

I’m stoked and hopeful that we will be a better offense than we saw in the Saints, Patriots, and final Eagles game. All winnable games

Yes, I think we will be a far better offense. And I think what McCarthy will be implementing will be very helpful to Dak, and I think that's where Dak will really start to rise. The money is for the FO to figure out as you said. I'm just saying what potential I think Dak has now with a better coach.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

His accuracy issues can be fixed. He needs to learn to stop throwing at the receiver and start throwing where the receiver will be. That can be fixed, with a little focus and a lot of practice, just like learning to shoot.

However....you'd think that's something he would have picked up on by now. Seems like he's only capable of leading the receiver if they're running away from him, and to me that's a problem.

That may be. However, earlier this season, I think he was throwing it very well. He was hitting his targets quite well. I dunno what happened, but he was doing very well early on. He was almost surgical against the Eagles. So I know he can be accurate. He just wasn't all that consistent this year. I think McCarthy can help him be more consistent with that.

 

[BoysForLife]

Hope is eternal and maybe magic elves will touch Dak's arm and turn him into a QB who is better than Rodgers?
Mike and Dak will not have a happy ending as Mike is a pass-happy HC and Dak has major flaws and issues with his game in general.
Dream on brother dream on while most of us on planet Earth have seen week in and week out a Tier 3-4 QB holding us back weekly!!!!!
FG anyone?

I tend to agree with you but all we can do is hope for the best.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Hope is eternal and maybe magic elves will touch Dak's arm and turn him into a QB who is better than Rodgers?
Mike and Dak will not have a happy ending as Mike is a pass-happy HC and Dak has major flaws and issues with his game in general.
Dream on brother dream on while most of us on planet Earth have seen week in and week out a Tier 3-4 QB holding us back weekly!!!!!
FG anyone?

Actually, I think Dak may have an advantage. I think what we'll see a lot of is going to be extended handoffs basically. I think we will see Dak throw the ball quite a bit more to Zeke in space. This will give Zeke a bit more of a running start and allow him to take on LBs and DBs rather than constantly bashing up against 300+ linemen.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

MM is a big believer in footwork
Footwork is huge in accuracy
He will be showing Dak a film of Marino’s footwork early and often

This is true, and this is where I think Dak will take another step forward. His footwork was much better this year, and I think it'll get better under Mike.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Additionally, we are assuming that the WCO will definitely be implemented. If he’s keeping Kellen and he’s believes that the offense isn’t broke we may see the same as before or a hybrid of both offenses. We really are speculating and perhaps McCarthy has other plans

I don't think the full WCO will be implemented in the first season. I think it'll slowly be implemented, and I suspect McCarthy will tailor a version of the WCO that will fit Dak.

 

[BoysForLife]

I do not think he thinks as highly of himself as he is confident, that was instilled in him by his Mom when he couldn't beat out the QB1 in high school and college. He was taught to always believe in himself and to not do that is a tarnish on the memory of his Mom. This is a lady that called his HS coach and told him he was playing her son wrong. He laughed when he told the story and then said "she was right".

The money thing is a mystery because we don't know the facts but most of what I'd read was that it was not about the money but the length of the contract. It seems that they were trying to keep themselves out of the QB sweepstakes in 3 or 4 years. His agent told him about all of these deals QB's have now that they're regretting. Wilson just got 35M, what do we think Mahomes is going to get and then Watson and Jackson? It wasn't that long ago that we were upset that Romo was getting 19M, the QB salary will have doubled from his last contract. It is increasing disproportionately to the cap. He is following the advice of his agent, as he should. Garappolo and Cousins are in at 27.5 and 28M and that's starting to look like a bargain comparatively speaking.

I don't know if either Garappolo or Cousins is worth what they are getting paid. I do know that I saw Cousins make throws in the 2nd half and OT of that game at NO the other day that I've never seen Dak make in those types of situations. The tear drop to Thielen that got them down to the 2 yard line was an incredible throw. Dropped my jaw. Couldn't have been more perfect. And even then I don't know if that guy is worth $28 million.

I am absolutely convinced Dak isn't worth anywhere near what he's asking (or what we've already offered, for that matter)

I've had this discussion in other threads but I really bristle at this notion that if you have a top 15 qb (and I think Dak falls in that 12-15 range, skillset wise), you have no choice but to pay him if he becomes a FA at the "right time". I know Dak is following the advice of his agent but at what point does it become more about "him" than about the "team"?

Honestly, he couldn't honor his Mom's memory by signing for $28-30 million (again, still too high in my opinion, but for the sake of argument) a year and leaving significantly more $$ for the team to build a championship level roster to surround him with?

I get what you are saying and to some extent I'm inclined to at least listen because you are one of the most level headed posters on this forum but at the end of the day, to me that move just comes off as an arrogant guy who thinks more highly of himself that most others do and certainly more highly of himself than he ought to. And it kind of pisses me off. I see a guy that hasn't performed anywhere near the level of guys that he's asking to be paid significantly more than, just because he happens to be a FA at the right time? Guys asking to be paid nearly double the highest figure that Tom Brady has ever been paid? C'mon Dak. Get the hell over yourself. Just my honest opinion.

 

[InTheZone]

If we have to call a passing game that requires not much thinking by the QB in terms of one read in the wco we're better off promoting a backup QB right now

 

[InTheZone]

I think McCarthy very much can get more out of Dak IF Dak puts in the time and effort to learn how to use the WCO. I think Dak's running ability here will be key as well. As you correctly point out, Rodgers ran quite a bit in his best years. Thus, the defences were frozen because of a concern for if Rodgers would run it. I think Dak is a better runner than Rodgers is. Thus, this advantage shifts more to Dak. If Dak can use his mobility more with McCarthy, then that will open up more options for the WRs and Zeke. Thus, Dak can be more effective. I think this is also a key to the WCO is having a QB that can scramble, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know if Dak is elite, but I think he's a very good QB. And I think coaching can help him move to the elite tier. That's where I find it so difficult to judge if Dak is elite or not. How do I judge someone when they were coached by Jason Garrett? I think we can at least all agree that McCarthy is twice the coach Garrett could ever be. He's won a Super Bowl and has been to several NFC Finals. So, I think now we'll have a better chance of evaluating Dak. Just a pity we strapped him down to Garrett for so long.

Rodgers uses his feet flawlessly. Our guy has to premeditate that mess before he looks downfield.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

He will teach him to make the easy throw when available. There were so many times where guys were open underneath for 5-6 yards and you can see Dak continue to wait and look for something more downfield. McCarthy will teach him to make those quicker throws.

are you being optimistic?

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Hope is eternal and maybe magic elves will touch Dak's arm and ...

 

[Cowboy4ever]

The whole point of the WCO is to get the ball quickly and in space to your play makers, while they are on the move. Dak seems to struggle at hitting a moving target in stride a lot of the times. This will be a challenge for him. In a WCO, a ball being on the left hip instead of the right hip can make a world of difference. But I do think that some of the things that MM likes to do will help Dak, especially pre-snap with reads and stuff and going up tempo more often. I would also expect to see Zeke and Pollard involved ALOT more in the passing game. I would expect between the two, almost 100 receptions next year.