Why would McCarthy choose Dallas?

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

I gave 2 years for more success than Jason had.

if not why we’d make a change?

2 years is about right. I wanna see instant change as well.

 

[jnday]

What does that even mean? I know Garrett wasn't successful, but the Cowboys won a decent amount under him. Three conference titles in five years. You talk like we're discussing the Browns here.

To be honest, there is not much difference IMO. One just has more money and a great hype man, Jerry. No Super Bowl wins is the only stat that matters.

 

[RoboQB]

I didn't read 11 pages but here's your answer:

The Dallas Cowboys are "The Big Room" as the Big Tuna once said.

 

[Zman5]

I never said they don’t work on their craft. I said that expecting a QB to “develop” into something else after 4 years of starting is naive.

You might want go look at Brees career. He wasn't the QB he became under Payton in NO when he was the starter for 4 years in SD.

Yes, coaching and scheme matter.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Talk about cherry picking stats, lol. I already gave you about 7-8 different stats and you come back with 4? 2 of which were ones I already posted? Hahaha...do you even read others posts or are you so busy spewing your verbal diarrhea that you don’t even bother to read what other people say?

You think overall record is indicative of who the better team always is talent wise? That’s laughable!

I’ll give you this, I was wrong about the defensive stats because the way they’re listed on NFL.com is actually backwards unless you filter it out.

Regardless, I posted plenty of other stats which is the opposite of cherry picking. Cherry picking is posting a few stats which doesn’t give a good example of the overall picture, which is what you did above.

We’ll find out soon enough what he is without two of the best QB’s to ever play the game.

LOL...……...You got smoked bad. You cherry picked because the overall stats proved the opposite. Thanks though, that was an easy one.

"overall record doesn't mean anything". Another dumb comment. LOL

You tried to deflect the argument away from McCarthy, because you were getting smoke, and then got smoked on your deflection. Too funny.

bububububbubut…….overall record doesn't count!!!!

 

[csirl]

$$$$$

 

[CowboyRoy]

Nice, keep walking back on your comments. Just like to throw crap out there and see what sticks, huh?

What happened to your laughable argument that the Packers defense was better? LOL

Got smoked?

 

[Blitzen]

There have been all kinds of debates about the Joneses making Mike McCarthy the newest coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Some love the move, some hate it. Some think it was too quick. Some wanted the latest hot name or a college standout instead.

However, last night I started thinking about why McCarthy would want to come to Dallas. After all, there's no doubt that any potential coach had heard plenty about Jerry's meddling ways. The organizational failure of Jones has been discussed pretty much ad nauseam. Choosing Dallas means having to put up with Jerry's hands-all-over approach of owning a team.

McCarthy clearly had other teams interested in interviewing, yet he picked the Cowboys as much as the Cowboys picked him. It could have just been a money thing. It could even be the high-profile nature of the job. However, I think there also could have been a few other reasons.

1) McCarthy, like most of us, could easily see that this team underachieved under Garrett. He's not in a rebuilding situation, but one where he only should need to add a few parts to possibly achieve immediate success.

2) This could probably be added to one because it's saying the same thing: Coaches know they can't win without talent and key pieces are in place here. He doesn't have to find a quarterback. He doesn't have to find a stud running back. He's got four very solid pieces to the offensive line if they can stay healthy. If we bring back Cooper, he's got a very good receiving corps. On offense, the only real questions are starting tight end and left guard (and we got decent play there from both Williams and Su'a-Filo, plus we haven't even seen Connor McGovern yet).

Defense is a little more sketchy. We've got one very good defensive end, two very good linebackers and a few decent secondary players. However, McCarthy is an offensive coach so I'm sure the offense was the draft.

3) Despite all the negatives about Jones, coaches know that he will get them what they ask for. I know the team has changed some on that, going cheaper in free agency, but I feel some of that was influenced by Garrett and his process, and the right coach will be able to produce a shopping list and get Jerry to fill it. If McCarthy tells Jerry that he needs a certain player, I just can't see Jones being able to resist getting him.

Lots of cash, lots of publicity, making the playoffs regularly will be measure of ultimate success from ownership, owner/gm on the rebound is easily manipulated and screwed, large portion of fans with deep pockets and are easily satisfied.

 

[stinkface]

Did anyone else offer him a job?

No. He interviewed with the Panther's twice in December. Also Jets 5 January and Giants 4 January. No one else offered him a job.

 

[Golfzilla77]

What a great add to his resume, to coach two storied franchises - Packers and Cowboys

Good point --- and also, if he actually manages to win a Super Bowl with Dallas too

 

[Diehardblues]

Good point --- and also, if he actually manages to win a Super Bowl with Dallas too

If he does he’d become the 1st HC in NFL history to accomplish with 2 different franchises.

My money is on the record not being broken. Lol

 

[Diehardblues]

No. He interviewed with the Panther's twice in December. Also Jets 5 January and Giants 4 January. No one else offered him a job.

I find that very interesting . And possibly concerning.

Also concerning is why we basically only conducted one interview. Lewis was a token interview to satisfy Rooney rule.

Why not interview Ruhle or Myer?

 

[stinkface]

I find that very interesting . And possibly concerning.

Also concerning is why we basically only conducted one interview. Lewis was a token interview to satisfy Rooney rule.

Why not interview Ruhle or Myer?

I think Jerry wanted turnkey. Hire Mike, Mike knows the league and knows other coaches that he can bring in with experience. Mike is low risk. Can't afford to screw this up again. He's starting to get long in the tooth and needs wins now. He tried the inexperienced with Garrett. Results not so good.

 

[Diehardblues]

I think Jerry wanted turnkey. Hire Mike, Mike knows the league and knows other coaches that he can bring in with experience. Mike is low risk. Can't afford to screw this up again. He's starting to get long in the tooth and needs wins now. He tried the inexperienced with Garrett. Results not so good.

So, it was a lazy hire. Lol
Jerry was ready for vacation.

 

[aria]

LOL...……...You got smoked bad. You cherry picked because the overall stats proved the opposite. Thanks though, that was an easy one.

"overall record doesn't mean anything". Another dumb comment. LOL

You tried to deflect the argument away from McCarthy, because you were getting smoke, and then got smoked on your deflection. Too funny.

bububububbubut…….overall record doesn't count!!!!

Again, I display several stats and you display 4, 2 of which I already posted but I’m cherry picking?

Did I ever say overall record doesn’t mean anything? Provide my exact quote or stop putting words in my mouth to try and prove a point.

I admitted I was wrong about the defensive stats sometimes it takes a man to publicly admit when their wrong which is why you would know nothing about that.

Your arrogant, pompous and demeaning posts to not just myself but others, say a lot about who you are. It’s especially funny when you’re wrong but always refuse to admit it or see something from another's view point. You must be a gem in real life.

Continue to ignore my questions just because you can’t answer them or perhaps that’s your way of admitting when you’re wrong but you don’t have the humbleness to admit it publicly.

 

[aria]

What happened to your laughable argument that the Packers defense was better? LOL

Got smoked?

No, I already admitted I was wrong, something you would know nothing about and instead of acknowledging that you continue to bring it up. You’re a just a pompous jerk, I feel sorry for people that have to deal with you on a regular basis.

 

[john van brocklin]

There have been all kinds of debates about the Joneses making Mike McCarthy the newest coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Some love the move, some hate it. Some think it was too quick. Some wanted the latest hot name or a college standout instead.

However, last night I started thinking about why McCarthy would want to come to Dallas. After all, there's no doubt that any potential coach had heard plenty about Jerry's meddling ways. The organizational failure of Jones has been discussed pretty much ad nauseam. Choosing Dallas means having to put up with Jerry's hands-all-over approach of owning a team.

McCarthy clearly had other teams interested in interviewing, yet he picked the Cowboys as much as the Cowboys picked him. It could have just been a money thing. It could even be the high-profile nature of the job. However, I think there also could have been a few other reasons.

1) McCarthy, like most of us, could easily see that this team underachieved under Garrett. He's not in a rebuilding situation, but one where he only should need to add a few parts to possibly achieve immediate success.

2) This could probably be added to one because it's saying the same thing: Coaches know they can't win without talent and key pieces are in place here. He doesn't have to find a quarterback. He doesn't have to find a stud running back. He's got four very solid pieces to the offensive line if they can stay healthy. If we bring back Cooper, he's got a very good receiving corps. On offense, the only real questions are starting tight end and left guard (and we got decent play there from both Williams and Su'a-Filo, plus we haven't even seen Connor McGovern yet).

Defense is a little more sketchy. We've got one very good defensive end, two very good linebackers and a few decent secondary players. However, McCarthy is an offensive coach so I'm sure the offense was the draft.

3) Despite all the negatives about Jones, coaches know that he will get them what they ask for. I know the team has changed some on that, going cheaper in free agency, but I feel some of that was influenced by Garrett and his process, and the right coach will be able to produce a shopping list and get Jerry to fill it. If McCarthy tells Jerry that he needs a certain player, I just can't see Jones being able to resist getting him.

Appreciate the post, good insights

 

[CowboyRoy]

Again, I display several stats and you display 4, 2 of which I already posted but I’m cherry picking?

Did I ever say overall record doesn’t mean anything? Provide my exact quote or stop putting words in my mouth to try and prove a point.

I admitted I was wrong about the defensive stats sometimes it takes a man to publicly admit when their wrong which is why you would know nothing about that.

Your arrogant, pompous and demeaning posts to not just myself but others, say a lot about who you are. It’s especially funny when you’re wrong but always refuse to admit it or see something from another's view point. You must be a gem in real life.

Continue to ignore my questions just because you can’t answer them or perhaps that’s your way of admitting when you’re wrong but you don’t have the humbleness to admit it publicly.

At least you admitted you were wrong. Nicely done.

Overall defensive or offensive stats along with team record trump any little list of selective stats when making an overall analysis.

Trying to make it simple and obvious. Going off on little tangents to try to get an angle is how you got here in the first place.

Were actually not even talking about McCarthy anymore, which is the first argument you lost and the real reason we are talking.

You have also failed to acknowledge or comment on either the fact that Dallas was at home and Rogers as limping on one leg when they beat us. Which in and by itself destroys your whole argument.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No, I already admitted I was wrong, something you would know nothing about and instead of acknowledging that you continue to bring it up. You’re a just a pompous jerk, I feel sorry for people that have to deal with you on a regular basis.

Only feel sorry for people that say dumb things on a chat room. In real life, I would never hang out with someone that says nonsense like you. In fact, I am quite certain you wouldnt say any of it in person. People would laugh in your face.

 

[Kaiser]

No. He interviewed with the Panther's twice in December. Also Jets 5 January and Giants 4 January. No one else offered him a job.

The Giants wanted him to come back for a second interview when he accepted the offer from Dallas. You have no idea what was offered to McCarthy by what team. He easily could have turned down offers from Carolina, Dallas is the premier job in the NFL and also pays better, this is clearly where McCarthy wanted to go.

Its just not accurate to say "no one else offered".