QB comparison of Dak vs other quarterbacks

[Trueboysfan]

I mentioned this in another post, but that post is like 8 pages long so I figured I would put it here.

I mainly looked into some comparisons because the main go tos I see are alot of "Dak will never be accurate" or "Dak will never be a Brady or Brees" and "Hes already played 4 seasons hes not going to get any better"

So I went and looked for myself...honestly I was very surprised! https://www.pro-football-reference....toyear_5=2007&player_id5=RoetBe00&idx=players

Highest completion percentage but hes inaccurate? Oh wait he dinks and dunks...weird because he was rated 2nd in yrds per attempt and 1st in adjusted yards per attempt although I dont even know what that means.
Ya but with that protection it's easy to wait for recievers to get open...only he was sacked more times than everyone but Roethlisberger...hmmm...oh ya highest qb rating and way less thrown interceptions than those guys. Still not sure how an inaccurate qb throws 97 tds and only 36 ints. Talking about rushing would just be unfair with the guys I'm comparing him to for sure so not going there....so with all that being said...how come so many Dallas "fans" are treating this guy like he's garbage?

 

[Trueboysfan]

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/amp.shreveporttimes.com/amp/2374370001

Another good article

 

[glimmerman]

I think a lot of fans expect perfection. He has yet to put it all together. He is improving. But I noticed this year he isn’t running with the ball as much. Especially when pressured. He is still holding the ball looking. He wants the big play I get it. Romo did it. He will continue to improve and hasn’t hit his ceiling yet. Keep taking care of the ball.

 

[John813]

The 4 years max talk is silly. We saw Romo develop over his 10 year, actual, playing career. Brees, Brady, Rodgers, etc all develop and make progress in certain areas as they get older. May be mechanics, reads and consistency.

He's going to get another HC this year, that did work with Favre and Rodgers. Now, not saying it's a guarantee Dak will become elite or anything, but to say with certainty he is what is at 27 years old as a QB is disingenuous. Unless you just hate the guy, pretty sure most saw improvements here and there on his mechanics and footwork.

 

[glimmerman]

The 4 years max talk is silly. We saw Romo develop over his 10 year, actual, playing career. Brees, Brady, Rodgers, etc all develop and make progress in certain areas as they get older. May be mechanics, reads and consistency.

He's going to get another HC this year, that did work with Favre and Rodgers. Now, not saying it's a guarantee Dak will become elite or anything, but to say with certainty he is what is at 27 years old as a QB is disingenuous. Unless you just hate the guy, pretty sure most saw improvements here and there on his mechanics and footwork.

He hasn’t hit his ceiling yet. The game will continue to slow down and timing will get easier.

 

[CowboysRule]

He improved a lot this past year but he is not in the realm of Top 3 QB like he wants to get paid which is my main issue with him. He racked up a good deal of garbage time stats in games we were either winning massively or when it was pretty much set that we were losing. I want him to play better against the top teams. We aren't ever going to win a Super Bowl if we can't consistently compete with the top teams in the league.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think a lot of fans expect perfection. He has yet to put it all together. He is improving. But I noticed this year he isn’t running with the ball as much. Especially when pressured. He is still holding the ball looking. He wants the big play I get it. Romo did it. He will continue to improve and hasn’t hit his ceiling yet. Keep taking care of the ball.

It all comes down to winning. Dak as QB is going to take max heat if the team does not win. I don't agree with this notion that it is all the QB when talking the ultimate team sport. I have seen Dak grow and improve each year and fully expect him to continue to work and improve.

 

[willia451]

The problem with Dak Prescott is we have no idea what he is or what he is capable of doing. He might be the next coming of Joe Montana for all we know.

And that's because his first 4 years were under "The Clapper" and his bovine clown posse. They were never going to have playoff success and were consistently out coached against the better teams of the NFL. Same thing happened with Romo.

Now Dak's rookie contract is up and it's time to pay the man. But pay him what? How do we know? All we have to look at are stats. And that's why putting the transition tag on him makes no sense. Other teams don't know either.

Nobody does.

We've wasted so many years and so much time. It's criminal.

 

[shabazz]

Dak>Mahomes

 

[glimmerman]

It all comes down to winning. Dak as QB is going to take max heat if the team does not win. I don't agree with this notion that it is all the QB when talking the ultimate team sport. I have seen Dak grow and improve each year and fully expect him to continue to work and improve.

Bro, I couldn’t agree more. In his first 3 years the thing that impressed me was he stood in with the game on the line and made plays and won games. The moment wasn’t to big for him. That can’t be taught. But I noticed this year it wasn’t happening so much. It wasn’t all on him but he has to take the heat for it because he is the one with the ball in control. We also had the best Offense in the league with a 8-8 record. Largely in part of the worst ST in the league. Missed FG ended drives and starting most every drive deeper in your own territory makes you have to move the ball. Having to make 90 yard drives all game long makes it real hard to win. Then a Defense that gives up yards and can’t get off the field with no turn overs hurts. Dak has plenty of things to improve on. We have a new staff so let’s see how he responds.

 

[Hadenough]

I mentioned this in another post, but that post is like 8 pages long so I figured I would put it here.

I mainly looked into some comparisons because the main go tos I see are alot of "Dak will never be accurate" or "Dak will never be a Brady or Brees" and "Hes already played 4 seasons hes not going to get any better"

So I went and looked for myself...honestly I was very surprised! https://www.pro-football-reference....toyear_5=2007&player_id5=RoetBe00&idx=players

Highest completion percentage but hes inaccurate? Oh wait he dinks and dunks...weird because he was rated 2nd in yrds per attempt and 1st in adjusted yards per attempt although I dont even know what that means.
Ya but with that protection it's easy to wait for recievers to get open...only he was sacked more times than everyone but Roethlisberger...hmmm...oh ya highest qb rating and way less thrown interceptions than those guys. Still not sure how an inaccurate qb throws 97 tds and only 36 ints. Talking about rushing would just be unfair with the guys I'm comparing him to for sure so not going there....so with all that being said...how come so many Dallas "fans" are treating this guy like he's garbage?

I think the term garbage is extreme and meant to counter the Dak comparisons to elite QBs.
I posted a link a while back about Daks redzone passing and it showed his numbers were not very good compared to other QBs. Dak also tends to pour it on against bad teams but is unable to step up against good teams. He can go 3 quarters of bad football and then when the other team is up 30 to 3 and takes their foot off the throat of the Cowboys Dak comes to life in the 4th quarter and hence the garbage time stats.

 

[Reality]

It all comes down to winning. Dak as QB is going to take max heat if the team does not win. I don't agree with this notion that it is all the QB when talking the ultimate team sport. I have seen Dak grow and improve each year and fully expect him to continue to work and improve.

This is what I was about to post. Romo was a great quarterback but a Romo-led team never made it to a championship game much less a Super Bowl so he will forever be judged as a good-but-not-great quarterback.

In sports, it's all about winning. Nick Foles is not a great quarterback, but he's a Super Bowl winning quarterback. Trent Dilfer was not a great quarterback, but he is a Super Bowl winning quarterback.

The only thing that matters to most fans when it comes to players is winning. Not stats, comparisons, speed, arm strength, accuracy, etc. All of those things are nothing more than argument fodder while everyone waits for the real "winning" to happen.

 

[Chuck 54]

What fans continue to not understand....being paid top money never means you are the top QB. All it means is that you are too valuable to let walk and start looking for an equal or better starter again, and you’re the next QB up for a contract.

Even if...IF....Jones made him the highest paid QB in the NFL, that won’t last more than a year at most. Teams don’t pay their QBs by league ranking. When Tony Romo signed a new contract in 2013, he was the highest paid player at any position in the NFL after taxes and the highest paid Cowboy ever. No one was arguing he was better than Tom Brady or others at that time.


Highest Paid QBs in Guaranteed Money
Matt Ryan: $94.5 million

Kirk Cousins: $84 million

Aaron Rodgers: $79.2 million

Russell Wilson: $70 million

Carson Wentz: $66.47 million

Matthew Stafford: $60.5 million

Alex Smith: $55 million

Eli Manning: $54 million

Nick Foles: $45.12 million

Andrew Luck: $44 million

Highest Paid QBs with Incentives
These are the quarterbacks with the highest average yearly salary (including incentives):

Russell Wilson: $35 million

Ben Roethlisberger: $34 million

Aaron Rodgers: $33.5 million

Carson Wentz: $32 million

Matt Ryan: $30 million

Kirk Cousins: $28 million

Jimmy Garoppolo: $27.5 million

Ben Roethlisberger: $27 million

Derek Carr: $25 million

Drew Brees: $25 million

 

[Doomsday101]

This is what I was about to post. Romo was a great quarterback but a Romo-led team never made it to a championship game much less a Super Bowl so he will forever be judged as a good-but-not-great quarterback.

In sports, it's all about winning. Nick Foles is not a great quarterback, but he's a Super Bowl winning quarterback. Trent Dilfer was not a great quarterback, but he is a Super Bowl winning quarterback.

The only thing that matters to most fans when it comes to players is winning. Not stats, comparisons, speed, arm strength, accuracy, etc. All of those things are nothing more than argument fodder while everyone waits for the real "winning" to happen.

Well said. Over all team is what will lead to championships, as great as Brees and Rodgers are they have 1 ring and that has been a while since they got that ring. I don't know if Dak will get one or not but I think his talent is good enough to give us a chance

 

[Hawkeye0202]

PFF Rankings: The NFL's top quarterbacks heading into Super Bowl LIV
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-best-quarterbacks-ahead-of-super-bowl-liv

© Geoff Burke-USA TODAY Sports
10. DAK PRESCOTT, DALLAS COWBOYS

Prescott had his most productive season since his rookie year, as fresh play-calling and a full year of strong playmakers led to Dallas ranking third in the league with an EPA of 0.23 on passing plays. Prescott ranked among the middle class of quarterbacks in PFF grading in 2017 and 2018, and his 2019 campaign showed that the right supporting cast could lead to high-end production from mid-tier signal-callers. Prescott attacked down the field more than ever, leading to his No. 3 ranking in the league in passing yards on 20-plus yard throws, and he finished fourth in PFF rushing grade at 76.2. Overall, it was a good season for Prescott, who improved his positively graded throws, cut down on the negatives and showed that he could have a top-notch season when given a strong group of receivers.

Key Stat from QB Annual: Prescott averaged 0.26 EPA per dropback on “first read” throws, well above the league average of 0.07.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

So what do you think? 40+m a year based on the stats? If he’s the best, pay him like the best

 

[shabazz]

So what do you think? 40+m a year based on the stats? If he’s the best, pay him like the best

but if not the best, at least pay him like Wentz.......

 

[Blackrain]

I mentioned this in another post, but that post is like 8 pages long so I figured I would put it here.

I mainly looked into some comparisons because the main go tos I see are alot of "Dak will never be accurate" or "Dak will never be a Brady or Brees" and "Hes already played 4 seasons hes not going to get any better"

So I went and looked for myself...honestly I was very surprised! https://www.pro-football-reference....toyear_5=2007&player_id5=RoetBe00&idx=players

Highest completion percentage but hes inaccurate? Oh wait he dinks and dunks...weird because he was rated 2nd in yrds per attempt and 1st in adjusted yards per attempt although I dont even know what that means.
Ya but with that protection it's easy to wait for recievers to get open...only he was sacked more times than everyone but Roethlisberger...hmmm...oh ya highest qb rating and way less thrown interceptions than those guys. Still not sure how an inaccurate qb throws 97 tds and only 36 ints. Talking about rushing would just be unfair with the guys I'm comparing him to for sure so not going there....so with all that being said...how come so many Dallas "fans" are treating this guy like he's garbage?

The short version here is there are a handful of squeaking wheels on this forum who have such a loyalty to Tony Romo no matter what Dak dose it will flatout never be any good . Every negative thing they say about him has been proved wrong , but they will continue relentlessly to move the goal posts and ignore the measurables that the normal football world use that are not overly invested in Tony Romo to judge QB performance .

Dont sweat it enjoy Daks game nothing we could do about Jerry wasting his rookie contract with a poor coaching staff . Time to watch Dak really break out this year with a good coach and staff that will hold the rest of the team accountable .

Will be nice to see us not lead the league in dropped passes , missed FGs , and bad field position along with establishing a defense that can take the ball away one in a while . How cant you like a QB that can get tough yards and straight arm guys to the ground if only the rest of the team other than Jeff Heath played with that kind of effort and toughness

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I mentioned this in another post, but that post is like 8 pages long so I figured I would put it here.

I mainly looked into some comparisons because the main go tos I see are alot of "Dak will never be accurate" or "Dak will never be a Brady or Brees" and "Hes already played 4 seasons hes not going to get any better"

So I went and looked for myself...honestly I was very surprised! https://www.pro-football-reference....toyear_5=2007&player_id5=RoetBe00&idx=players

Highest completion percentage but hes inaccurate? Oh wait he dinks and dunks...weird because he was rated 2nd in yrds per attempt and 1st in adjusted yards per attempt although I dont even know what that means.
Ya but with that protection it's easy to wait for recievers to get open...only he was sacked more times than everyone but Roethlisberger...hmmm...oh ya highest qb rating and way less thrown interceptions than those guys. Still not sure how an inaccurate qb throws 97 tds and only 36 ints. Talking about rushing would just be unfair with the guys I'm comparing him to for sure so not going there....so with all that being said...how come so many Dallas "fans" are treating this guy like he's garbage?

You can't use eye test or back it up with facts because his haters have an agenda against him personally. No matter the facts you provide there will always be silly haters even it comes to Dak.

I would like to see him get more wins in the postseason though, hopefully that starts this year with McCarthy.

 

[Kwyn]

The 4 years max talk is silly. We saw Romo develop over his 10 year, actual, playing career. Brees, Brady, Rodgers, etc all develop and make progress in certain areas as they get older. May be mechanics, reads and consistency.

He's going to get another HC this year, that did work with Favre and Rodgers. Now, not saying it's a guarantee Dak will become elite or anything, but to say with certainty he is what is at 27 years old as a QB is disingenuous. Unless you just hate the guy, pretty sure most saw improvements here and there on his mechanics and footwork.

Exactly. Brees didn’t do anything until year six when he joined Payton in NO