Free agent QB situations should be leverage for contract negotiations

[KJJ]

BTW, I love Taysom Hill.

Do you love him enough that you would rather have him than Dak? He’s basically Tim Tebow part two. Granted he’s a terrific all purpose player but I certainly wouldn’t want him as my every down QB. His availability certainly isn’t going to provide any leverage for Dak’s contract negotiations.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Do you love him enough that you would rather have him than Dak? He’s basically Tim Tebow part two. Granted he’s a terrific all purpose player but I certainly wouldn’t want him as my every down QB.

Depends on the contract situation. I mean, if I'm forced to just give Dak whatever he wants, then I love Hill more by a lot.

But as an aside, I don't think Nola makes him available either way so he's probably not an option.

 

[phildadon86]

Dak is a 20ish TD a year QB who doesn't turn the ball over much. (Even though he fumbles a ton)

The reason we are "good" is because our Oline and Zeke can control a game and not expose Dak to having to carry the team on his shoulders.

So when we played Minnesota and the game was on Zekes shoulders what happened? Just curious. Because Dak was killing it that game.

 

[CATCH17]

So when we played Minnesota and the game was on Zekes shoulders what happened? Just curious. Because Dak was killing it that game.

I don't take 1 thing that happens and base my entire argument around it.

Dak has a body of work. Let's actually use it and not think back to that one time.

 

[KJJ]

Depends on the contract situation. I mean, if I'm forced to just give Dak whatever he wants, then I love Hill more by a lot.

You can’t be serious. lol Hill has only completed 6 passes for 119 yards and 0 TDs with a passer rating of 46.6 in his 3 year career and you would love him a lot more than Dak? Hill is good at everything but throwing the football. He’s gotten lucky on a few deep throws down the field and has more incompletions than completions.

 

[CATCH17]

You can’t be serious. lol Hill has only completed 6 passes for 119 yards and 0 TDs with a passer rating of 46.6 in his 3 year career and you would love him a lot more than Dak? Hill is good at everything but throwing the football.

There is no proof that he isn't good at throwing the football and Sean Payton thinks he can be their franchise QB.

 

[KJJ]

There is no proof that he isn't good at throwing the football and Sean Payton thinks he can be their franchise QB.

Did you see his passer rating I posted? The guy has never thrown a TD pass and has more incompletions than completions. He’s gotten lucky on a few deep throws down the field. He’s basically a gadget player. He does some things extremely well but he’s not an accomplished QB by a long stretch which is why he didn’t take over for Brees when he got injured.

 

[CATCH17]

Did you see his passer rating I posted? The guy has never thrown a TD pass and has more incompletions than completions.

Yeah.. I don't care.. I look at what he can do.

You put this guy in a quick passing offense that gets rid of the ball and on top of that his ability to run he will make the Saints offense very good.

Lamar Jackson isnt the best at throwing too but he is so good at running that he gets great matchups in the pass game because of it and it inflates his numbers.

As long as Taysom can run he will be a very good NFL QB with Payton orchestrating the offense.

 

[KJJ]

Yeah.. I don't care.. I look at what he can do.

You put this guy in a quick passing offense that gets rid of the ball and on top of that his ability to run he will make the Saints offense very good.

Lamar Jackson isnt the best at throwing too but he is so good at running that he gets great matchups in the pass game because of it and it inflates his numbers.

As long as Taysom can run he will be a very good NFL QB with Payton orchestrating the offense.

If Hill is such a good QB then why didn’t he take over for Brees when he got injured? Why did they go with Bridgewater instead of Hill?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You can’t be serious. lol Hill has only completed 6 passes for 119 yards and 0 TDs with a passer rating of 46.6 in his 3 year career and you would love him a lot more than Dak? Hill is good at everything but throwing the football.

Oh yeah I can. First of all, you don't know in what context because you never explained context. Secondly, Nola isn't stupid and they might actually be considering the very same thing. You just said, do you like him better then Dak. Well, better then Dak coming out? Better then Dak money wise? Better then Dak in a comparison right this second? I have to wonder how much you actually watched Hill. I mean, Hill can throw the ball. I watched him at BYU and he can flat throw. The problem with him, IMO, is can he stay healthy? That would be my concern.

So if you feel like the laugh emoji is what you gotta do here, then go ahead and do that. I know what I've seen and I know that what I said is right. If you are comparing Dak to literally any QB and it's under the situation that we are at the mercy of he and his agent, then it's going to be any other QB period because you can not win that way in the NFL. You can literally put up any QB and I will pick them over that situation with Dak.

 

[Kaiser]

We are signing Dak and these other players don't matter. This offseason will be just like the Dez Bryant negotiations, they will tag him until the market rate is set for similar players and then match that dollar for dollar.

But there will be five million threads and four billion posts prior to that happening.

 

[eromeopolk]

Dak is a 20ish TD a year QB who doesn't turn the ball over much. (Even though he fumbles a ton)

The reason we are "good" is because our Oline and Zeke can control a game and not expose Dak to having to carry the team on his shoulders.

20 TDs? He was responsible for 29, 28, 28, and 33 Total TDs each of the seasons he played with a HC that did not use him to his strengths in the red zone (see his stats at Miss. St.). The Cowboys OL has not been dominate since 2016 (see injuries and illness), Zeke missed most of the 2017, and Zeke came in hold out shape for the 2019 season.

Dak Prescott means more to this team than you think or want to give credit for what unknown reasons I do not know.

You sign him to a long term deal, sign Amari Cooper to a long term deal, and leave your franchise tag open for either Jones or cap money to sign defensive free agents to go with the defense player you better draft. Then you will have a legitimate shot at the Super Bowl.

 

[charron]

How could it not be?

Look at New Orleans..

Brees will be available..

Bridgewater is available.

Taysom Hill is a RFA and I can’t imagine them not wanting to see him on the field ASAP with his contract status and their long term future at that position.

So we could have Drew Brees and Tom Brady both available.

Then there is a long list of other QB’s starting with Winston, Rivers, Mariotta, potentially Derek Carr.

Who knows how the chips could fall...

How is this not a ton of leverage for the Cowboys to use in contract negotiations if they so choose.

Some of those guys are upgrades and some of them would perform just as good as Dak if they were in Dallas.

If Drew Brees becomes available Dallas should be all over that.

Instead we will give Dak a long term deal and some smart team like the Titans will go get Brees or Brady and be better off for it then we are.

Normally this would be leverage in favor of the team. However we are talking the Jonses who don't understand these things.

 

[CATCH17]

If Hill is such a good QB then why didn’t he take over for Brees when he got injured? Why did they go with Bridgewater instead of Hill?

I don’t know.. Why didn’t we switch to Tony Romo when QC got cut from the team..

Maybe the coach isn’t ready to put him out there yet. Maybe they felt like going with Bridgewater until they started struggling.

BTW, I don’t know if he is so good or not.. I just love his chances of being good with his skill set and Sean Payton calling the shots.

 

[KJJ]

Oh yeah I can. First of all, you don't know in what context because you never explained context. Secondly, Nola isn't stupid and they might actually be considering the very same thing. You just said, do you like him better then Dak. Well, better then Dak coming out? Better then Dak money wise? Better then Dak in a comparison right this second? I have to wonder how much you actually watched Hill. I mean, Hill can throw the ball. I watched him at BYU and he can flat throw. The problem with him, IMO, is can he stay healthy? That would be my concern.

So if you feel like the laugh emoji is what you gotta do here, then go ahead and do that. I know what I've seen and I know that what I said is right. If you are comparing Dak to literally any QB and it's under the situation that we are at the mercy of he and his agent, then it's going to be any other QB period because you can not win that way in the NFL. You can literally put up any QB and I will pick them over that situation with Dak.

I’ve watched Hill and every time I see him he reminds me of Tim Tebow. Even his throwing motion looks like Tebow’s. Hill has only attempted 13 passes and three seasons. When Drew Brees went down it was Bridgewater who took over not Taysom Hill. I can’t imagine there’s a team in the league that would want Taysom Hill as their every down QB, unless they’re looking to run a Tim Tebow offense. The guy is a terrific athlete no question about it but he’s not a pure passer which is why he’s only attempted 13 career passes. He’s completed less than half the throws he’s attempted. I posted his passing numbers if you think that’s going to help lead us to a championship dream on!

 

[phildadon86]

I don't take 1 thing that happens and base my entire argument around it.

Dak has a body of work. Let's actually use it and not think back to that one time.

Ok let’s look at his 4th quarter comebacks. His overall body of work. What’s his win loss?

 

[JBS]

How could it not be?

Look at New Orleans..

Brees will be available..

Bridgewater is available.

Taysom Hill is a RFA and I can’t imagine them not wanting to see him on the field ASAP with his contract status and their long term future at that position.

So we could have Drew Brees and Tom Brady both available.

Then there is a long list of other QB’s starting with Winston, Rivers, Mariotta, potentially Derek Carr.

Who knows how the chips could fall...

How is this not a ton of leverage for the Cowboys to use in contract negotiations if they so choose.

Some of those guys are upgrades and some of them would perform just as good as Dak if they were in Dallas.

If Drew Brees becomes available Dallas should be all over that.

Instead we will give Dak a long term deal and some smart team like the Titans will go get Brees or Brady and be better off for it then we are.

Describe to me exactly how you would use that leverage in contract negotiations bc it doesn't sound like you are thinking this through

All dak will say is fine..sign those guys..I'll walk..so that isn't leverage

 

[John813]

Bridgewater at 15 million/year or Dak at 30 million/year, I take Teddy (if 15 million is something he would take).

I think his cap hit floor is near Foles 22mil AAV

 

[doomsday9084]

I would take Dak over all of those guys . . . for the same money.

Would I rather give Dak $35m per year or Tannehill $25m? I'll take Tannehill please. I would probably take Brees for two years at $70m. This team's window is closing fast so why not just go for it and rebuild later?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I’ve watched Hill and every time I see him he reminds me of Tim Tebow. Even his throwing motion looks like Tebow’s. Hill has only attempted 13 passes and three seasons. When Drew Brees went down it was Bridgewater who took over not Taysom Hill. I can’t imagine there’s a team in the league that would want Taysom Hill as their every down QB, unless they’re looking to run a Tim Tebow offense. The guy is a terrific athlete no question about it but he’s not a pure passer which is why he’s only attempted 13 career passes. He’s completed less than half the throws he’s attempted. I posted his passing numbers if you think that’s going to help lead us to a championship dream on!

Did I ever say that he was going to lead us to a championship? All of this is on you. None of this did I say. Here is a question for you. Did you like Tony Romo? How many passing yards did he have when he became the starter? How many completions etc?