The Cowboys should sign Keenum, and let Dak decide what to do next

[OmerV]

btw, has dak proven to you he is a #1 qb inthe nfl or any other level of football he has ever played in his life?
No? Well, he shouldn’t ask for that kind of money cause their are real expectations when guys get that kind of money

Well, uh … yes he has. He clearly is as good or better than QB's all over the NFL, and he clearly played well enough in college to be a starting D1 QB. He isn't in the elite realm with Mahomes and a few others, but to suggest he has never proven to be anything more than a backup level player is so far fetched it's laughable.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Can he beat good teams? I know he can beat a good team here and there if they get an early turnover or something like that.......but did you see something I didn’t see this year cause we didn’t beat any good teams besides the game philly gave us when they came to Dallas and fumbled on opening drive and then started around the 10 yard line (neither of which dak had any part of)........actually when the cowboys get a 10-0 lead on any team in the nfl with this rb and o line, I personally believe a lot of local high school qb’s could have won 8 games this past
season. No lie........Daks best game game this year was bathe Vikings and we lost that!!!!

he went 13-3 his first year and won rookie of the year and beat a bunch of good teams...btw, do you know the stats for beating good teams for other QBs? and since you love you some Winston, what's his record against winnign teams? if you are using that line of argument, then it applies to all the QBs you mentioned, including Winston....

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Why has he changed teams 6 times in 7 years? He's a journeyman bum.

Who cares? It doesn’t change anything I said. Keenum is a bum, Dak was a cheap bum.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Actually he beat bama and rode the media wave the rest of the year while his defense carried his team. And no, I didn’t say his high school team sucked, I said he didn’t lead them to anything important.
He might win reg season games, he doesn’t and hasn’t won meaningful post season games.

Hey man, if he gets paid I’ll count my crow and run and hide. it’s nothing personal, I’d let him babysit my kid. I wouldn’t hire him to win me a super bowl tho

so you are saying, if they didn't win a championship in college, therefore they are not going to be able to win in the NFL? right?

 

[LetsBeReal]

what's the insistence on playing under center... most QBs, ala Brees, even Brady don't play from under center most snaps...Deshan Watson took only 20% of his snaps from under center....lamar Jackson only about 5%, he is the MVP, NE was 50/50, NO, surprisingly took 52% of their snaps in shutgun!! and dallas was at 62% from shutgun and GB at 59%..... and KC took 77% of the snaps in shutgun and they just won the superbowl and everyone agrees Mahomes is the next elite QB in the league with an MVP already....

so this notion of we would be a better team if we took snaps from under center and therefore I don't like dak (although he took 38% of snaps from under center). is asinine.....

and If Winston is your bar for a great QB...then either he is your relative or you have a man crush on him....because Winston sucks...anybody handing him 25 mill a year would be better off signing Sanchez....they would get the same results but at much lower cost

Lol.....wth man? Come on dude

the insistence is that’s how the team is built and we aren’t guessing at any position besides the position we haven’t upgraded, spent money on,etc.......I got a question for you, what else does it take for dak to get it done? Does him making a lot more money get it done? What is it that you want me to see that dak brings to the table at $800k that should make me feel better about him making $28million dollars? I don’t give who the qb is so make me a believer. As far as I’m concerned he’s had 4 years on the field training and is not even close.


Can you find the one position the cowboys haven’t tried to make better?

 

[LetsBeReal]

so you are saying, if they didn't win a championship in college, therefore they are not going to be able to win in the NFL? right?

Nope. I’m saying if you lack arm talent in every nfl game you play and don’t somehow figure ways to win some other way in the nfl, then ask for $30m a year and the worst player on the offense.......then your a bum

 

[Bullflop]

Keenum would probably cost more than the Cowboys would be ready to favor.

I'm inclined to think that the FO would likely prefer to draft a QB at some point.

At this time, they're already faced with the burden of dealing with big contracts.

 

[LetsBeReal]

Well, uh … yes he has. He clearly is as good or better than QB's all over the NFL, and he clearly played well enough in college to be a starting D1 QB. He isn't in the elite realm with Mahomes and a few others, but to suggest he has never proven to be anything more than a backup level player is so far fetched it's laughable.

let him go shop himself around

 

[blueblood70]

again man, I understand the dynamic and the options. I was scoffing at the notion that Dak is not a winner, and Case Keenum is, specifically. We have a single example of him having a winning season with a great team, and terrible records outside of it. Where as w/ Dak he's won more than anyone not named Brady, and a single season of 8-8. It was just a very weird statement.

LMAO you dont get it because you do not want to.. Dak isnt twice as good as a Journeyman we can get close at half price..no one said dak cant win or CK is better but he seems to need as good a team around him like élite talent everywhere to win more games..PERIOD if you have to go that far you can get a bus driver type for half price.. CK or RF are not better but they aren't a big drop off.. they too with this team we had could put up numbers against bad teams Ryan Fitzpatrick has had stretched the same as dak and also has fallen off when needed most LIKE DAK, GET IT?!!!!

Jeez man daks an above average QB not elite and his needs are as much as a Journeymen needed and of we went that far to help Dak win games you know get to the playoffs with a better defense and ST , new coach, there are QBs out there given that much help and support can win.. most of those journeymen have been on bad teams and dont have the support..

all im sating is dak and isnt worth over 30, if he holds out we can put the same great team or more around another qb and succeed for nearly half the cost..SMH..

im moving on..if you cant see around Daks good attributes and also see his downside then you will never get it..

 

[OmerV]

Actually he beat bama and rode the media wave the rest of the year while his defense carried his team. And no, I didn’t say his high school team sucked, I said he didn’t lead them to anything important.
He might win reg season games, he doesn’t and hasn’t won meaningful post season games.

Hey man, if he gets paid I’ll count my crow and run and hide. it’s nothing personal, I’d let him babysit my kid. I wouldn’t hire him to win me a super bowl tho

You said he was the best player on a bad high school team. Even so, he did win the district championship, so is your complaint that he didn't win the state championship? Do you really think every quality NFL QB in history won their state championship?

In any case, every QB isn't a winner until they are. What did Eli Manning do at Mississippi State that Dak didn't do as well or better? What Did Drew Brees win an Purdue, or Mahomes at Texas Tech?

The reality is that there is a lot more that goes into winning than just who the QB is. The QB is important, but he isn't everything.

 

[OmerV]

let him go shop himself around

Geat, we should have fun with either Cooper Rush or the next Jake Locker or Blaine Gabbert at QB!

 

[LetsBeReal]

he hasn't won anything is not indicator of not being able to win in the future. there are a lot that go into the circumstance...if it was about that, then every NCAA QB that won a championship should also be a good NFL QB and win a superbowl...every Heisman trophy winner should be a good NFL QB, etc. Tom brady didn't win anything until he got the chance and was with the right coach and right situation. Roth didn't win until he had the right team and right coach. Brees didn't win until later in his career, Rivers never won anything anywhere yet he was always considered elite.

your line of argument falls flat....very flat

My apologies sir, being that this is a football forum sometimes I just think I’m taking to men that use common sense.
How would you go about improving our foootball team when we give the same qb we’ve had a $30m raise? With Late round draft picks?

 

[LetsBeReal]

You said he was the best player on a bad high school team. Even so, he did win the district championship, so is your complaint that he didn't win the state championship? Do you really think every quality NFL QB in history won their state championship?

In any case, every QB isn't a winner until they are. What did Eli Manning do at Mississippi State that Dak didn't do as well or better? What Did Drew Brees win an Purdue, or Mahomes at Texas Tech?

The reality is that there is a lot more that goes into winning than just who the QB is. The QB is important, but he isn't everything.

districT champ? Lol
I won a distric championship and I suck. He didn’t win anything important. And still hasn’t

 

[MCMetal69]

The Cowboys should get Case Keenum and give him a four year deal.
He would be an upgrade immediately, and at worst would solidify the Cowboys at quarterback if they do eventually sign Dak.
Phillip Rivers is also available, and is an upgrade.
Ryan Tannehill is available.
The Cowboys don't have to be in this soap opera with a guy who went 8-8 but wants to be paid like he is a proven winner.
Signing a veteran like Keenum- who has been a winner- would likely change Dak's attitude towards a new contract.
But I believe that the Cowboys would make it to the NFC Championship game next year with a guy like Keenum under center.

 

[LetsBeReal]

Geat, we should have fun with either Cooper Rush or the next Jake Locker or Blaine Gabbert at QB!

we picked your hero in the 4th round so pretty sure we can improve that in the 1st round

 

[OmerV]

My apologies sir, being that this is a football forum sometimes I just think I’m taking to men that use common sense.
How would you go about improving our foootball team when we give the same qb we’ve had a $30m raise? With Late round draft picks?

I'm not sure why you wouldn't use the early round draft picks too ...

 

[LetsBeReal]

You said he was the best player on a bad high school team. Even so, he did win the district championship, so is your complaint that he didn't win the state championship? Do you really think every quality NFL QB in history won their state championship?

In any case, every QB isn't a winner until they are. What did Eli Manning do at Mississippi State that Dak didn't do as well or better? What Did Drew Brees win an Purdue, or Mahomes at Texas Tech?

The reality is that there is a lot more that goes into winning than just who the QB is. The QB is important, but he isn't everything.

btw, Eli didn’t go to state. And nobody questions Eli’s football iq

 

[OmerV]

districT champ? Lol
I won a distric championship and I suck. He didn’t win anything important. And still hasn’t

Again, are you under the impression every quality NFL QB won their state championship? Face it, you are applying a standard to Dak that you aren't applying to other QB's.

 

[LetsBeReal]

I'm not sure why you wouldn't use the early round draft picks too ...

Oh so your a let’s draft a qb and not pay dak guy? Def my bad, I read your message wrong.......I agree with you, let’s draft a qb. We can get a vet to go with our draft picks if need be

 

[kskboys]

dak has never,in his entire life, won anything. He was the best player on a bad high school team. One of the better offensiveplayers on a good defensive college team. And neither of those teams did a did damn thing in the end. (Don’t tell me about “his” getting m state to #1 the week before they played bama on national tv either.

Dude will never win super bowl. I will guarantee it.

Guarantee? You watch too much TV, or something.