Nolan may be the key

[Future]

This Front Office is enamored with themselves and its "ability" to find JAG all-stars but in reality they are career journeymen or role players at best. Need to fill some of these holes with talented players if any DC is going have success here.

The Chiefs just won a Super Bowl with 3 guys on defense who would count as anything more than JAGs.
The Ravens had 9 sacks rushing 4, and that's playing with big leads a lot.

Scheme matters way more on defense than talent in today's NFL.

 

[CATCH17]

Other than the fact that his coaching history stinks, and he's usually fired or run out after 1-2 seasons, he's "awesome."

How do you ignore facts? I'm not making anything up. Look it up yourself if you dont believe it.

I trust what i've seen in the past more then stats and I feel like I do a better job evaluating players and coaches that way then looking at these generalization's that stats provide.

Mike Nolan is capable of throwing the kitchen sink at a QB. He's a high level X's and O's guy.

Regardless though.. The NFL is not built for defenses to succeed so I have to take that into consideration and if you don't have a front 7 that can put heat on the QB then your schemes don't matter anyways.

I like Nolan.. I may be wrong but I won't let his stats factor into my opinion because there is too many variables.

Just like I wont applaud Mike McCarthy's stats and ignore the Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers elephant in the room.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Scheme matters way more on defense than talent in today's NFL.

Scheme is much easier to control and implement. There is no salary cap with coaches.

Talent is way more variable and therefore valuable IMO.

 

[Future]

Scheme is much easier to control and implement. There is no salary cap with coaches.

Talent is way more variable and therefore valuable IMO.

Actually that's a good point. Fair.

But a good defensive scheme can compensate for less talent. You can't have goo talent overcome a poor scheme.

 

[KingintheNorth]

The Chiefs just won a Super Bowl with 3 guys on defense who would count as anything more than JAGs.

But they also have major impact guys on defense.

Honey Badger is better than any player we have in the secondary.

Chris Jones is a beast on the interior and is about to be PAID.

Frank Clark is a terror.

They also nailed their 2nd round pick (Thornhill) and we absolutely blew ours (Trysten Hill).

They're better on offense, defense, have a better coaching staff and front office than we do. I don't know anything about their special teams (except so much speed at KR) but considering how bad we were on ST, I'd bet they're better there too.

I'd say we have them beat at RB and O Line. Everything else is all them.

 

[quickccc]

Nolan has never overseen a dominant defense in his career. Never. Average or below every time he's been given the chance.

Nolan didn't coach a great defense in Baltimore. ?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Nolan has never overseen a dominant defense in his career. Never. Average or below every time he's been given the chance.

He had top 5 defenses at multiple locations. Nolan's issue is that he has had bottom 5 at multiple locations too.

 

[Future]

But they also have major impact guys on defense.

Honey Badger is better than any player we have in the secondary.

Chris Jones is a beast on the interior and is about to be PAID.

Frank Clark is a terror.

They also nailed their 2nd round pick (Thornhill) and we absolutely blew ours (Trysten Hill).

They're better on offense, defense, have a better coaching staff and front office than we do. I don't know anything about their special teams (except so much speed at KR) but considering how bad we were on ST, I'd bet they're better there too.

I'd say we have them beat at RB and O Line. Everything else is all them.

Ok. I'm not saying the Cowboys are better than the Chiefs.

My point is just that you don't need to have great talent at every position on defense. You can win with journeymen types on that side of the ball and Dallas doesn't need this huge talent infusion on defense.

 

[nightrain]

Gonna wait and see on Nolan. Can't be any worse than last year.

 

[ESisback]

Nolan has never overseen a dominant defense in his career. Never. Average or below every time he's been given the chance.

McCarthy chose him, right? There must be SOMETHING redeeming, right? Or do you know more than him, too?

 

[KingintheNorth]

Dallas doesn't need this huge talent infusion on defense.

I think they need to find two impact guys this year. Players like that are infectious and make the guys around them better.

The Chiefs added two really good safeties, Mathieu through free agency, and Thornhill through the draft. Those two made the corners and front four better.

If we were to do something similar, let's say Justin Simmons in free agency and Grant Delpit in the draft, it would change the entire defense. That along with ridding ourselves of Rod Marinelli's antiquated schemes and philosophies. I'm not sure Mike Nolan is the solution, but he has the whole not-being-Rod Marinelli thing going for him.

 

[ESisback]

Ok. I'm not saying the Cowboys are better than the Chiefs.

My point is just that you don't need to have great talent at every position on defense. You can win with journeymen types on that side of the ball and Dallas doesn't need this huge talent infusion on defense.

At the very least, land us a monster DT and a ballhawk S! In a “perfect world”:
Draft—DT, S, LB, DE, CB, DT, TE
FA—QB, DL, LB

 

[KingintheNorth]

At the very least, land us a monster DT and a ballhawk S! In a “perfect world”:

Yes. We need this more than anything. Our personnel philosophies on these 2 positions the last decade has been DEAD WRONG.

 

[stilltheguru]

We werent a number 1 offense. Yall keep saying that bs

 

[quickccc]

Up to Cowboys management to provide Nolan the proper player personnel to exceed,imo..

-that's the front DL line with bookend edge-rushers, a 3 tech and that 1 tech,
-that's LB depth and either returning/replacing Sean Lee altogether.
-that's addressing the DB unit- getting ball hawks and playmakers among CBs and S.

what would do in FA market, trades and the upcoming NFL draft will greatly impact how Nolan can operate.

 

[Number1]

Yeah well he's never had Trysten Hill or Kerry Hyder either, so there's that. Things are looking up for Mikey.

that's cold

 

[erod]

Nolan didn't coach a great defense in Baltimore. ?

You mean Marvin Lewis' defenses? Nolan was the wide receivers coach prior to that.

I'm pretty sure anybody could oversee that defense that Lewis and Newsome built at that point.

 

[erod]

McCarthy chose him, right? There must be SOMETHING redeeming, right? Or do you know more than him, too?

There's a reason nobody has hired Nolan to be a defensive coordinator the past 5 years.

 

[Dre11]

defense needs to be the key....period

making plays is key. we missed on what I consider 1 possible Superbowl with defense and 2 possible championship games if guys just make plays..

Dez overturned catch in 2014 if he just down instead of making the extra effort to score. I think we beat Seattle and reach the superbowl even with that defense.

if we make a play on defense in 2016 on 4th down. we had the momentum and we had the best team that year. championship game at least of the defense makes a play.

going all the way back to Bill Parcells. if not for the the bobble by Romo I can see at least the championship game.

 

[BBGTYCOON]

Nolan has never overseen a dominant defense in his career. Never. Average or below every time he's been given the chance.

Are you aware that Nolan was the Ravens DC in 2003 and 2004?