The Cowboys should sign Keenum, and let Dak decide what to do next

[morat1959]

The discussion is about college/HS success as it relates to the pros. Elway is an example of a QB who was unsuccessful in college, but successful in the pros.

That’s why I ask the ?????. I know you’re not comparing Dak to Elway on any level are you? Maybe it just went over my head. Which is not very hard to do! Lol

 

[Proof]

LMAO you dont get it because you do not want to.. Dak isnt twice as good as a Journeyman we can get close at half price..no one said dak cant win or CK is better but he seems to need as good a team around him like élite talent everywhere to win more games..PERIOD if you have to go that far you can get a bus driver type for half price.. CK or RF are not better but they aren't a big drop off.. they too with this team we had could put up numbers against bad teams Ryan Fitzpatrick has had stretched the same as dak and also has fallen off when needed most LIKE DAK, GET IT?!!!!

Jeez man daks an above average QB not elite and his needs are as much as a Journeymen needed and of we went that far to help Dak win games you know get to the playoffs with a better defense and ST , new coach, there are QBs out there given that much help and support can win.. most of those journeymen have been on bad teams and dont have the support..

all im sating is dak and isnt worth over 30, if he holds out we can put the same great team or more around another qb and succeed for nearly half the cost..SMH..

im moving on..if you cant see around Daks good attributes and also see his downside then you will never get it..

You’re a weird dude. You responded to a post I made, responding to a particular point. Has nothing to do with the rant you keep going on or anything to do with what I get or don’t get. You’re arguing a point I haven’t made, or argued against and I’m not sure how to make it any clearer to you. But yes, please move on because you are going off the rails

 

[DallasEast]

There are tons of examples of successful NFL QBs that didn't win the big prize in college or high school. That's really not a defining measure.

Truth. Texas Tech's Patrick Mahomes teams finished 4–8/2–7, 7-6/4-5 and 5–7/3–6 during his three years. Applying team records to individual players, even quarterbacks, does not hold any particular real weight.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Lol passing at an “elite level.” Keep judging those stats while teams keep playing against the player bro. Not sure what tapes you been watching but dak can’t do anything in the red zone. His stats are all between the 20’s. Brady is 100 years old, won a super bowl last season and won 5 before that......If I’m wrong, let me know which game you are referencing and where I’m wrong that proves he should be paid $30 a year. I can show you where Russ Wilson, Rogers, Brady, wentz, Watson, mahomes, Goff etc all have shown why they are worth $30 a year. So please do, show me why dakota rayne should be paid $30m per year and explain how that $28m raise you want him to have, would make our team better, kind sir.

ok, provide facts.... why is dak's play in 2019 not elite?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

brady won in his first year and these conversations weren’t happening for obvious reasons. The only obvious reason dak has are to not pay him

brady didn't win on his first year. he won in his second year. and he was the back up until Bledsoe got hurt....he didn't win squat in college

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Elway was 3-8 his last year in college.

Elway sucked....he didn't have a chance to win anything because he never won anything I college or his first 4 years in the NFL...oh wait a minute....

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

oh my god - look people, i'm not a huge dak fan but this current pop-fad crap of bringing in someone who's never done a thing as if they're just as good is idiotic and not helping your anti-dak arguments with anyone who graduated the 6th grade. with or without honors.

Hey Ice,

I don't think that's really how it works. What would happen is, you would sign a Vet guy, he would either end up being your backup or starting in a pinch. Dak isn't going anywhere. He can either sit or he can hold out and then play. In either of those scenarios, you are going to need a decent Vet. If he sits, he costs you nothing and is in exactly the same situation the next season. It's more likely that he holds out, misses the Off Season and training camp. Probably misses the limit of games he can and then comes back so that he gets credit for a season played. The problem with that will be that he will be terrible because he won't know the Offense and he won't be in shape. So yeah, I think you need a vet QB with experience who can come in and win games for you. Now, you may not want Keenum but it has to be somebody like him. We are going to need a viable solution at QB no what. Hell, even if you play Dak (assuming he returns after sitting out), chances are he's going to end up hurt because that's what happens when you don't have a full offseason. I think it's not an option for us.

JMO

 

[eromeopolk]

The Cowboys should get Case Keenum and give him a four year deal.
He would be an upgrade immediately, and at worst would solidify the Cowboys at quarterback if they do eventually sign Dak.
Phillip Rivers is also available, and is an upgrade.
Ryan Tannehill is available.
The Cowboys don't have to be in this soap opera with a guy who went 8-8 but wants to be paid like he is a proven winner.
Signing a veteran like Keenum- who has been a winner- would likely change Dak's attitude towards a new contract.
But I believe that the Cowboys would make it to the NFC Championship game next year with a guy like Keenum under center.

I assume you were going to say sign Keenum as a back up QB until...

 

[OmerV]

brady won in his first year and these conversations weren’t happening for obvious reasons. The only obvious reason dak has are to not pay him

It's funny when posters give you multiple examples and you tune into the one that you feel you can respond to and pretend the others don't exist.

 

[Flamma]

I will def vote on the draft a rookie instead of paying dak side. We can def find positions on our roster to spend $30 million dollars we’d save by not giving away money to a guy that, (I guess we agree?) can’t find another team

Yeah I would too if given the choice. If the QB stinks up the place the Cowboys will have a great draft position with money to spare. What are we risking? It's not like the Cowboys are racking up 12-4 seasons.

 

[iceberg]

Hey Ice,

I don't think that's really how it works. What would happen is, you would sign a Vet guy, he would either end up being your backup or starting in a pinch. Dak isn't going anywhere. He can either sit or he can hold out and then play. In either of those scenarios, you are going to need a decent Vet. If he sits, he costs you nothing and is in exactly the same situation the next season. It's more likely that he holds out, misses the Off Season and training camp. Probably misses the limit of games he can and then comes back so that he gets credit for a season played. The problem with that will be that he will be terrible because he won't know the Offense and he won't be in shape. So yeah, I think you need a vet QB with experience who can come in and win games for you. Now, you may not want Keenum but it has to be somebody like him. We are going to need a viable solution at QB no what. Hell, even if you play Dak (assuming he returns after sitting out), chances are he's going to end up hurt because that's what happens when you don't have a full offseason. I think it's not an option for us.

JMO

great, but that wasn't the premise of the OP. the OP was that he would be an immediate upgrade over what we have.

it was not to backup dak. it was to show dak we don't need him. at least that's how i read it.

first 2 lines:
"The Cowboys should get Case Keenum and give him a four year deal.
He would be an upgrade immediately, and at worst would solidify the Cowboys at quarterback if they do eventually sign Dak."

in that light, trollcity.

 

[Whirlwin]

My apologies, I don’t know the guy or follow him. I thought you were twisting things and that’s my bad, I apologize sir.

I consistently talk bad about dak, jaylon smith and lve

I have my issues with the three of them also. They also have praises I also have praises.. I take the good with the bad and then decide . The sad fact is for some there is no good. And you already know who those are

 

[Eightneight]

Keenum??? Surely this post is a joke

 

[kskboys]

ok, provide facts.... why is dak's play in 2019 not elite?

Inconsistent.

 

[kskboys]

That’s why I ask the ?????. I know you’re not comparing Dak to Elway on any level are you? Maybe it just went over my head. Which is not very hard to do! Lol

Huh? Strange take.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Inconsistent.

in what way? I asked for facts

 

[kskboys]

in what way? I asked for facts

It's a fact that Dak was inconsistent. He was blowing up and looking great some games, and was grossly subpar others. Those are facts.

I like Dak, and I'm hoping McC can get more consistency out of him. Frankly, I believe our craptastic O scheme had a lot to do w/ the inconsistency.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It's a fact that Dak was inconsistent. He was blowing up and looking great some games, and was grossly subpar others. Those are facts.

I like Dak, and I'm hoping McC can get more consistency out of him. Frankly, I believe our craptastic O scheme had a lot to do w/ the inconsistency.

I can say very consistently, that every QB is inconsistent. just making a statement, without any evidence is called an opinion. so you haven't presented any facts...you expressed your opinion. that's a fact.

I gave you an opportunity to present any, any evidence that would lead to Dak being inconsistent, compare that to other QBs and make your case. otherwise you have nothing. have done nothing, but express a thought and opinion, that's ill informed

 

[Stash]

All your threads are unpopular Troll.

Says the hands down 'winner' of the least popular 'Troll' on this entire site.

Lack of intelligence paired with lack of self awareness.

What a combination!

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

great, but that wasn't the premise of the OP. the OP was that he would be an immediate upgrade over what we have.

it was not to backup dak. it was to show dak we don't need him. at least that's how i read it.

first 2 lines:
"The Cowboys should get Case Keenum and give him a four year deal.
He would be an upgrade immediately, and at worst would solidify the Cowboys at quarterback if they do eventually sign Dak."

in that light, trollcity.

the intent of the OP was to be a troll. obviously emotions on Dak are high among cowboys fans, thus if you noticed he disappeared. his goal was to get some responses and add to the number of responses to his posts...he measures his success by how many pages of responses he has on his post....no other reason. this is not the first time the OP has done this, in fact I believe this is his 3rd posts on Keenum….he had the same thing on the ranch message board, claiming Moore was a HOF QB and should start over Romo and Tashard Choice is as good RB as emmitt smith.