Dak at 38 Million vs Tom Brady at 30 Million

KJJ

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Give me Tom but we have to push for a top QB in the draft while he is here.

Figures you would want a 42-year-old QB who’s showing signs of decline over a very good young QB who’s gotten better each year. The arrow is pointing down on Brady and it’s pointing up on Dak but you would rather have the aging QB who’s in decline. The only way we would push for a top QB on the draft with Brady as our QB is if we stink worse than we did this past season and have a top 10 pick.
 

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If the Pats are willing to allow Brady to walk with nothing behind him at QB that tells you where they think he’s headed. Not many things would be more stupid than move on from a 26-year-old QB who’s improving every year and replacing them with an aging QB who’s going to turn 43 in August. Granted Brady is the goat and has six rings but the clock is ticking down on him. I saw clear signs of decline in him last season. Sure he still has a little left in the tank but it’s running low. Some of these threads just make you shake your head.
 

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If the Pats are willing to allow Brady to walk with nothing behind him at QB that tells you where they think he’s headed. Not many things would be more stupid than move on from a 26-year-old QB who’s improving every year and replacing them with an aging QB who’s going to turn 43 in August. Granted Brady is the goat and has six rings but the clock is ticking down on him. I saw clear signs of decline in him last season. Sure he still has a little left in the tank but it’s running low. Some of these threads just make you shake your head.

Their public offer is 30 million dollars.

The clock is ticking down on him.. I agree.. I’d still take him on a 2 year plan over Dak and go draft a guy in a few years. Build the team and keep the QB position cheap.

I’d rather have Brees if he is made available but Tom Brady to Dallas would be fun, entertaining, and instantly raises the bar.
 

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Brady will want 50 million to play in the circus Jerry creates.
This. Just because Brady will give a discount to stay with the team he's always been with doesn't mean he'd give anyone else the same discount
 

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Their public offer is 30 million dollars.

The clock is ticking down on him.. I agree.. I’d still take him on a 2 year plan over Dak and go draft a guy in a few years. Build the team and keep the QB position cheap.

I’d rather have Brees if he is made available but Tom Brady to Dallas would be fun, entertaining, and instantly raises the bar.

I can’t think of many posters who make less sense than you. What you’re saying is downright laughable. :laugh: Your plan is to go with Brady for a couple years until he flames out then find a QB in the draft as if drafting a QB is a sure thing. While we’re burning draft picks trying to find a QB, Dak is flourishing with another team. The Commanders didn’t want to pay Kirk Cousins now look where they are. While Cousins was leading the Vikings to the playoffs, the Commanders were headed for a top five pick. Allowing Cousins to walk forced the Commanders to have to burn a first round pick on Haskins who may not pan out. Who knows they may burn high pick on another QB in April.

You don’t allow a young, productive QB to walk and replace them with a 43 year old QB who’s nearing the end of the road. If you think drafting QBs is a sure thing then you must not be following the draft very closely. Drafting a QB is a crapshoot! The Bears passed up Patrick Mahomes for Mitch Trubisky, that speaks volumes for how big a crapshoot drafting a QB is. No offense but all I get out of your logic are laughs. lol You may be only looking at the next two years but I’m looking at the next 8 to 10 years. I don’t want to be spending those years burning draft picks looking for a solid, consistent QB.
 

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Your plan is to go with Brady for a couple years until he flames out then find a QB in the draft as if drafting a QB is a sure thing. While we’re burning draft picks trying to find a QB, Dak is flourishing with another team. The Commanders didn’t want to pay Kirk Cousins now look where they are. While Cousins was leading the Vikings to the playoffs, the Commanders were headed for a top five pick. Allowing Cousins to walk forced the Commanders to have to burn a first round pick on Haskins who may not pan out. Who knows they may burn high pick on another QB in April.

You don’t allow a young, productive QB to walk and replace them with a 43 year old QB who’s nearing the end of the road. If you think drafting QBs is a sure thing then you must not be following the draft very closely. Drafting a QB is a crapshoot! The Bears passed up Patrick Mahomes for Mitch Trubisky, that speaks volumes for how big a crapshoot drafting a QB is. No offense but all I get out of your logic are laughs. lol You may be only looking at the next two years but I’m looking at the next 8 to 10 years. I don’t want to be spending those years burning draft picks looking for a solid, consistent QB.


His plan isn't to just go with Brady, he thinks Brady is a fairly substantial upgrade. Many people do. You'll rarely see a listing of top QB's with Dak above Brady. I don't think I have ever seen a list that says he's better right now. People that rank Dak above Brady are mainly considering you'll get many more years out of Dak. To win right now it's quite possible, Brady > Dak.

The history on drafting a QB in the first round has gotten much much better. Mahomes, Watson, Jackson, Darnold. With a lot of college concepts coming to the NFL recently the last few years have been decent in finding a QB. There are multiple guys I would take this year and feel good about rather than pay Dak 35M+. You can overcome an average QB on his draft salary. You can't over come an average QB making $35M. I'm way more afraid of locking in an average QB for way too much money than drafting one.

You mention Dak flourishing. I'm not sure he's flourishing now. I'm not sure he'll ever flourish. Do we want to pay $35M and hope he will truly flourish and not go TD less in the final game of the season against an average at best defense again? I can see very valid points for walking away from this guy if he wants to demand too much money.

Really, Kirk Cousins is the example? Overpaying for a guy like Cousins and locking him in with guaranteed money is one of the examples of what could happen with Dak that many people are warning about. Minnesota is stuck right now from grabbing a potential Brady, Brees or if they liked someone else. Cousins isn't good enough to carry a team to victory and they're paying him like that level of QB. That's an issue for them. They'll draft a QB soon. I wouldn't have went with Haskins if I was the Commanders but walking away from Cousins when he wanted to be one of the highest paid in the league wasn't a terrible idea. Another mid tier, not elite talent, former 4th round pick QB that didn't deserve top money. You can win with a guy like that but not if you drastically overpay.

There is a chance to go all in with Brady and almost no chance you'll be locked into a long term bad contract. It's not a terrible idea to look into that if your current QB needs a lot of help around him and he wants to handcuff you salary cap wise.... Dak seriously regresses or even plays average at $35M the Cowboys won't have a lot of succes or options for about half a decade.... That's a lot of risk to take on for a guy known for intangibles and doesn't really have a top QB skillset.
 
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His plan isn't to just go with Brady, he thinks Brady is a fairly substantial upgrade. Many people do. You'll rarely see a listing of top QB's with Dak above Brady. I don't think I have ever seen a list that says he's better right now. People that rank Dak above Brady are mainly considering you'll get many more years out of Dak. To win right now it's quite possible, Brady > Dak.

The history on drafting a QB in the first round has gotten much much better. Mahomes, Watson, Jackson, Darnold. With a lot of college concepts coming to the NFL recently the last few years have been decent in finding a QB. There are multiple guys I would take this year and feel good about rather than pay Dak 35M+. You can overcome an average QB on his draft salary. You can't over come an average QB making $35M. I'm way more afraid of locking in an average QB for way too much money than drafting one.

You mention Dak flourishing. I'm not sure he's flourishing now. I'm not sure he'll ever flourish. Do we want to pay $35M and hope he will truly flourish and not go TD less in the final game of the season against an average at best defense again? I can see very valid points for walking away from this guy if he wants to demand too much money.

Really, Kirk Cousins is the example? Overpaying for a guy like Cousins and locking him in with guaranteed money is one of the examples of what could happen with Dak that many people are warning about. Minnesota is stuck right now from grabbing a potential Brady, Brees or if they liked someone else. Cousins isn't good enough to carry a team to victory and they're paying him like that level of QB. That's an issue for them. They'll draft a QB soon. I wouldn't have went with Haskins if I was the Commanders but walking away from Cousins when he wanted to be one of the highest paid in the league wasn't a terrible idea. Another mid tier, not elite talent, former 4th round pick QB that didn't deserve top money. You can win with a guy like that but not if you drastically overpay.

There is a chance to go all in with Brady and almost no chance you'll be locked into a long term bad contract. It's not a terrible idea to look into that if your current QB needs a lot of help around him and he wants to handcuff you salary cap wise.... Dak seriously regresses or even plays average at $35M the Cowboys won't have a lot of succes or options for about half a decade.... That's a lot of risk to take on for a guy known for intangibles and doesn't really have a top QB skillset.

I read his plan it’s ridiculous and it won’t happen! I don’t see a substantial upgrade when you compare Brady’s numbers in 2019 with Dak’s. If the Pats move on from Brady they know his time is about up.
 

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Imagine paying a Quarterback $37m a season after being 27-21 in the last 3 years.
 

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Id like to know how much of the Pats offensive problems were due to a lack of playmakers on offense and how much is Brady aging.

I think he'd have been a whole lot better if he had Gronk. That said Im not sure its wise to move on from Dak and acquire Brady without a young stud on deck.

Put another way, give Dak that wide receiver and tight end group from New England and see what happens. 4-12 probably.
 

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Ill put it to you this way Brady at 38m and 42 years of age is better for us than Dak at 30m and 27 years of age, but sadly it won't happen. I wonder what would have happenned last year if you swapped out our receivers for NE's receivers...lol
 

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Put another way, give Dak that wide receiver and tight end group from New England and see what happens. 4-12 probably.

Nope, youre underestimating the Pats defense, Bill Belicheck, and Dak. You forget they won 11 games with Matt Cassel. Dak wouldn't torpedo their season. Good coaches adapt and play to their players strengths. Something most Cowboys fans haven't seen in a long time.
 

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Brady is just about done, and Dak is not worth anything above 30 mill. 2 bad choices.
But what is the right choice? Drafting a QB at #17 isn't likely to be it, and paying an aging QB on a downhill slide isn't likely to be it, and signing a journeyman with the hope that he will transform into something he has never been before likely isn't it.
 

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Brady is going back to NE. The guy owns the whole town over there.
 

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trade for Burrow - etc who ever or who ever they like
 

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I think Brady is in decline.. but this more relates to continual over rating of Dak. Dak is middle of the road QB.. not bad but not good enough to really give you a good shot.

Give Brady these weapons and I do think he wins a ring in the next two years.. but it won't happen. Dak will be signed on a monster deal and we will all agree within the next three years it was the dumbest in a long line of dumb decisions by Jerry..
 
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