Twitter: Fisher: Glazer: Dak not going anywhere, not asking for $40M

GMO415 · Feb 9, 2020

Blah blah blah. Sign already!

bsbellomy · Feb 9, 2020

CATCH17 said:
From what I gather...

I think they have agreed on a dollar amount but Dak wants to renegotiate in 3 or 4 years and Dallas is trying to get a long term deal done so his contract is cheap down the road.

If they could agree on a dollar amount this would have been done a year ago.

bsbellomy · Feb 9, 2020

buybuydandavis said:
They couldn't get it done when Dak was only making 2mil. Is he supposed to get in a bigger hurry when he's making 30mil+ guaranteed on a tag?

A new HC probably makes management less in a hurry too, wanting the HC to have a chance to fully evaluate Dak for a year before he buys in.

Point is he's obviously asking for more than they are comfortable paying him and these posts seem to only that he's not.

CATCH17 · Feb 9, 2020

bsbellomy said:
If they could agree on a dollar amount this would have been done a year ago.

I think it’s years from everything I’ve read.

I think the Cowboys want a long term deal for 34 or 35 mill.

Hawkeye0202 · Feb 9, 2020

CATCH17 said:
Btw, what are teams going to do whenever Mahomes gets his pay day? Pay their guy more then Mahomes? Lol

NOOOO.......I mention this in another thread. I think his contract will be the beginning of a correction of the QB market.

bsbellomy · Feb 9, 2020

CATCH17 said:
I think it’s years from everything I’ve read.

I think the Cowboys want a long term deal for 34 or 35 mill.

What the Cowboys should be holding out for is a ripcord that's going to get them out of this godawful contract in a couple years.

glimmerman · Feb 9, 2020

bsbellomy said:
What the Cowboys should be holding out for is a ripcord that's going to get them out of this godawful contract in a couple years.

What works in there favor is that Daks agent want to cash in again in a few years so he wants a short term deal.

TheMarathonContinues · Feb 9, 2020

fivetwos said:
I'd respond but I cant differentiate what you're asking vs. what you're trying to tell me.

Maybe a punctuation lesson before insulting others?

Take a look around at the better teams in the league and tell me how they havent at ALL used free agency as a way to build.

Draft only doesnt work unless you do it perfectly, and no team does, regardless of what Stephen Jones has you believing.

First off no one was insulting you so get out of your feelings. I was educating you because you don't seem to understand how this works. And you claim you didn't understand my post because of punctuation? That's fair. But you should also understand I didn't say don't use free agency at all. I said don't use it to build a defense. Now is there any other confusion?

You build teams based on hunger, youth and cheap contracts. You don't do that with free agency. Lesson done.

Stash · Feb 9, 2020

Rockport said:
Anyone who get their opinions about the Cowboys from the national media talking heads is the real joke.

I gave you too much credit. I thought you could have a conversation like an adult.

Rockport · Feb 9, 2020

stasheroo said:
I gave you too much credit. I thought you could have a conversation like an adult.

Yes, my mistake as well.

Bullet22 · Feb 9, 2020

baltcowboy said:
Stop ruining Cowboys Zoners offseason. We were hoping Dak would be traded for picks. Then we would sign Brady for 20 million. Then draft Eason or Frohm as Brady’s backup. Dak sucks!!!!!

You, not we.

kskboys · Feb 9, 2020

fivetwos said:
I'd respond but I cant differentiate what you're asking vs. what you're trying to tell me.

Maybe a punctuation lesson before insulting others?

Take a look around at the better teams in the league and tell me how they havent at ALL used free agency as a way to build.

Draft only doesnt work unless you do it perfectly, and no team does, regardless of what Stephen Jones has you believing.

Mahomes, Chris Jones, Derrick Nnadi, Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, Eric Fischer, Duvernay-Tardiff disagree w/ you!!!!

The only reason KC was able to add so many players was because Mahomes was still on his rook contract. That's what we should've done.

You must form a core through the draft, and then fill in the spaces w/ FA's.

kskboys · Feb 9, 2020

CATCH17 said:
Because teams and clearly our own fans don’t learn.

We’re on a Cowboy forum so it’s typical for people to be delusional about how good their guy is too so it’s an easy sell for the team to want to pay a slightly above mediocre QB enough money to end our Super Bowl chances for awhile.

Works both ways. Many fans also undervalue their own players due to microanalyzing.

fivetwos · Feb 9, 2020

kskboys said:
Mahomes, Chris Jones, Derrick Nnadi, Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, Eric Fischer, Duvernay-Tardiff disagree w/ you!!!!

The only reason KC was able to add so many players was because Mahomes was still on his rook contract. That's what we should've done.

You must form a core through the draft, and then fill in the spaces w/ FA's.

Not arguing otherwise. Pretty sure my point was that using a large percentage of the cap toward status quo doesn't allow us to get any better.

Convenient to leave out their FA additions to support your point. You need both to succeed.

Is Dallas not a "win now" team? Or is it one that is still "building" yet has no cap space?

fivetwos · Feb 9, 2020

fivetwos said:
Not arguing otherwise. Pretty sure my point was that using a large percentage of the cap toward status quo doesn't allow us to get any better.

Convenient to leave out their FA additions to support your point. You need both to succeed.

Is Dallas not a "win now" team? Or is it one that is still "building" yet has no cap space?

For the most part....they had a window....and it closed. They have to pay guys that didnt win...or start over.

So....pay the group that wasnt good enough to win with...and theres no cap room to add what's needed.

fivetwos · Feb 9, 2020

rocyaice said:
First off no one was insulting you so get out of your feelings. I was educating you because you don't seem to understand how this works. And you claim you didn't understand my post because of punctuation? That's fair. But you should also understand I didn't say don't use free agency at all. I said don't use it to build a defense. Now is there any other confusion?

You build teams based on hunger, youth and cheap contracts. You don't do that with free agency. Lesson done.

Ok thanks for that. So let's completely ignore free agency entirely.

Every successful team has, yes? Please stop because that's not even close to true.

I get what you're saying to a degree, and sure you build your core through the draft, but are they a win now team or no?

You arent getting better defensively by hoping Kinlaw falls to you.

You arent getting better as a defense in 2020 from the draft alone.

If they have no ability one way or the other to add free agents and get better now, then they are rebuilding.

That's Jerry team for you, no man's land.

Either try to win now or rebuild, not some ridiculous in between scheme.

Kaiser · Feb 9, 2020

fivetwos said:
For the most part....they had a window....and it closed. They have to pay guys that didnt win...or start over.

So....pay the group that wasnt good enough to win with...and theres no cap room to add what's needed.

That post is 0 for 3. The window didn't close because this is one of the youngest teams in the league so even keeping the current players means they will improve with experience. The group was "good enough to win" but lost games mostly because of Special Teams and close games going against them. Special Teams last year cost us 2 wins, and we make the playoffs if they don't.

And saying we have no cap space is the biggest miss of that post, we have 74 Million available right now and can easily free up another 20 if they want to. Dallas could have 100 Million in cap room tomorrow if they wanted.

JoeKing · Feb 9, 2020

Jake said:
I don't care if he's asking for $40 million or "only" $36-38 million. That's a lot of money for a QB that hasn't done anything more than win a division title.

Yes, it takes a supporting cast - QBs don't win championships on their own - but a huge QB contract only makes that a harder task. I'm skeptical.

Jake from State Farm has spoken!

CF74 · Feb 9, 2020

Doesn’t want 40. Signs for 39... :muttley:

kskboys · Feb 9, 2020

fivetwos said:
Not arguing otherwise. Pretty sure my point was that using a large percentage of the cap toward status quo doesn't allow us to get any better.

Convenient to leave out their FA additions to support your point. You need both to succeed.

Is Dallas not a "win now" team? Or is it one that is still "building" yet has no cap space?

You really need to reread my post. Your snarkiness makes you look silly after you reread the last line of my post.

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