Dak is like a needy son-in-law

CowboysLegends2 said:

Not at all. You used the excuse Dak couldn’t look better because the run game was not effective against the Rams. The best QB in the league makes opposing teams pay for commuting to the run.

I can also name the Patriots, Saints and Eagles, any of those games could have been won with the best QB in the league.

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If opposing defensive players have to take an UBER to the line of scrimmage any quarterback will make them pay dearly.

Redball Express said:

Here is my analogy of the debate about Dak as our QB..

It's sort of like you have a daughter. She is getting married. The guy does not make alot of money. You try to tell your daughter this and that she will probably struggle her whole marriage.

But she insists and she marries him. You end up helping raise the kids because they are always broke and you have to keep propping up their family with money under the table.

After time goes by, there will be a divorce and the daughter and kids move in with you and you have to be dad and father and provider constantly. You do it becuz you love your family but what you really want is to have the daughter find another guy who can get the job done and not need constant help.

Now..what am I saying?

Ok..

Dak is the needy son in law, he wants to succeed but he needs a ton of help. You as the owner GM like your son in law and want his daughter to be protected and taken care of.

So you spend like crazy to put players around Dak and pay DAK to succeed.

But it is a constant and ongoing process and things just do not get to a closure of a title for the team.

We did this once already with Romo. Jerrah is doing it again with Dak.

I am not a Dak hater. I am a Cowboy Lover.

I wish there was a better scenario but there is not.

So we as fans sit..and wait.

And worry and spit nails and debate.

Sound familiar?

Comments certainly invited..not trying to rile you guys up. Only get things in context using easily understood scenarios. The younger fans will have no clue what the hey I am saying.

You older guys know EXACTLY what I am saying.

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It's business, red, not a family issue. Only about 2000 players in the nfl. Sometimes a team has to make a deal it would rather not, but good managers can't let negotiations get personal. Given the reality of letting a player leave has to be weighed against the the reality that his leaving hurts the team. The replacement pool is small in the nfl.

OP is a one of a kind

Usually dead wrong on his “hot” takes but entertaining....



accurate laugh I make when I read OPs thread conversations

Redball Express said:

Why is it when somebody does not agree here, it seems people have to resort to some kind of attack to make themselves known.?

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Probably for the same reason you start insane numbers of new threads to constantly re-state your thesis about how deserving Dak is of your scorn, disdain and hate? To make yourself and your obsession with Dak known? And to keep your personal feelings about it front-and-center at all times?

Aviano90 said:

Please let the season be cancelled. Maybe a wasted year will take some of the whine out of the crybabies.

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seriously? do you really believe that. it's in our dna.

cern said:

seriously? do you really believe that. it's in our dna.

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Halfheartedly. I would love for the season to be cancelled, in and of itself. But put in perspective, it would mean the virus probably isn't under control and I really don't want that to happen. I was hoping the CBA negotiation would have caused a strike/lockout but that's not going to happen.

buybuydandavis said:

I've always said it is a team game, and you evaluate everyone on what they contribute to the team, not by record.
I had "Team game." in my .signature for a while, along with "Dead cap is dead" and "It was a catch", to save myself some effort.

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Ok I’ll give you that but have you went in those threads saying it’s a team game? I never see this sentiment in those threads only in the ones critical of Dak.

Redball Express said:

Here is my analogy of the debate about Dak as our QB..

It's sort of like you have a daughter. She is getting married. The guy does not make alot of money. You try to tell your daughter this and that she will probably struggle her whole marriage.

But she insists and she marries him. You end up helping raise the kids because they are always broke and you have to keep propping up their family with money under the table.

After time goes by, there will be a divorce and the daughter and kids move in with you and you have to be dad and father and provider constantly. You do it becuz you love your family but what you really want is to have the daughter find another guy who can get the job done and not need constant help.

Now..what am I saying?

Ok..

Dak is the needy son in law, he wants to succeed but he needs a ton of help. You as the owner GM like your son in law and want his daughter to be protected and taken care of.

So you spend like crazy to put players around Dak and pay DAK to succeed.

But it is a constant and ongoing process and things just do not get to a closure of a title for the team.

We did this once already with Romo. Jerrah is doing it again with Dak.

I am not a Dak hater. I am a Cowboy Lover.

I wish there was a better scenario but there is not.

So we as fans sit..and wait.

And worry and spit nails and debate.

Sound familiar?

Comments certainly invited..not trying to rile you guys up. Only get things in context using easily understood scenarios. The younger fans will have no clue what the hey I am saying.

You older guys know EXACTLY what I am saying.

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You do know all QB need help to win. Drew Brees is great yet has 1 SB win, why? he has not always had the team around him to get it done be it offensive help or defensive help. No QB has ever won anything by themselves they all need talent around them, period. This notion that some of the QB are single handly winning championship is complete BS. In terms of Money, Dak wants to get paid just as every other QB is trying to get the best deal they can.

Redball Express said:

Here is my analogy of the debate about Dak as our QB..

It's sort of like you have a daughter. She is getting married. The guy does not make alot of money. You try to tell your daughter this and that she will probably struggle her whole marriage.

But she insists and she marries him. You end up helping raise the kids because they are always broke and you have to keep propping up their family with money under the table.

After time goes by, there will be a divorce and the daughter and kids move in with you and you have to be dad and father and provider constantly. You do it becuz you love your family but what you really want is to have the daughter find another guy who can get the job done and not need constant help.

Now..what am I saying?

Ok..

Dak is the needy son in law, he wants to succeed but he needs a ton of help. You as the owner GM like your son in law and want his daughter to be protected and taken care of.

So you spend like crazy to put players around Dak and pay DAK to succeed.

But it is a constant and ongoing process and things just do not get to a closure of a title for the team.

We did this once already with Romo. Jerrah is doing it again with Dak.

I am not a Dak hater. I am a Cowboy Lover.

I wish there was a better scenario but there is not.

So we as fans sit..and wait.

And worry and spit nails and debate.

Sound familiar?

Comments certainly invited..not trying to rile you guys up. Only get things in context using easily understood scenarios. The younger fans will have no clue what the hey I am saying.

You older guys know EXACTLY what I am saying.

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A re-worded analogy.

You and your wife have a daughter. She is getting married to a lawyer who just passed the bar. You like

the guy. Your wife thinks he is the worst choice she could conceivably make.

She gets married anyway. She and her husband, who your wife dislikes, adopt a whole mess of kids. All

boys. Your wife likes some of the new kids. She cannot stand some of the others.

A few years go by and you make the decision of making your son-in-law a partner of your law firm. It is a

huge decision but you make it because you 'know' it is the right one. Your daughter and son-in-law

move into a MUCH bigger house than the one they had before. Your wife loves and dislikes visiting her

daughter at her home. She adores seeing Teddy, Mark and Sonny. She throws up in her mouth seeing

John, James, Chris, Bob, Joe, Maurice, Todd, Sam and Billy. Just a little vomit, times each grandchild.

What am I saying?

Alright.

Prescott is the son-in-law Jones has loved since shortly before November 2016. Jones has been one

hundred percent committed with Prescott, just as he once was with Romo.

Jones supports every roster acquisition he makes to help Prescott succeed, just like he finally began

doing with Romo before kicking him to the curb for Prescott. Jones is fully invested in helping Prescott

succeed. His way.

So Jones throws monopoly money at a few players he feels are good enough to be stars for his team--

under the right conditions he foresees can happen. He has anticipated paying Prescott as a franchise

quarterback ever since the day he decided Prescott was a franchise quarterback back in midseason of

2016.

It has been a 30-year gambling style that has lingered well-before Prescott and Romo. Jones has been a

gambler since well-before he bought the franchise. Jones 'knows' his way works. He 'knows' his

way worked when Johnson and he were partners. He 'knows' his way should have worked every day in

the decades since their partnership was severed. He still 'knows' his way will work today, tomorrow

and every day he enjoys life but it has been a LOOOOONG time since Super Bowl XXX.

In short, deja vu.

You guys cope with the reality that has always been Jerry Jones all along. That is why CowboysZone is

there. For you. To cope with what you cannot control.

Any of you men, women and even children, who have read the unceasing gnashing of teeth, that has

been posted annually, monthy, weekly, daily and amazingly sometimes hourly since 2004, know exactly

what I am talking about.

Philmonroe said:

Ok I’ll give you that but have you went in those threads saying it’s a team game? I never see this sentiment in those threads only in the ones critical of Dak.

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It's not my experience that threads are segregated by how much you like Dak. I notice both defenders and critics in most threads.

If you mainly respond to people who respond to you, as I do, you're probably self-selecting for people who disagree with you.

buybuydandavis said:

It's not my experience that threads are segregated by how much you like Dak. I notice both defenders and critics in most threads.

If you mainly respond to people who respond to you, as I do, you're probably self-selecting for people who disagree with you.

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It is not my experience either and I never said they were segregated by how much you like Dak. I said nobody says that team game stuff in those threads. The who replies to who doesn’t matter honestly because it doesn’t take away my point. I still read the threads and your line of thinking is never saw in one of those threads by posters and only used in these threads.

gjkoeppen said:

Your funny seeing how there are former players and coaches that have said that it looks like the Cowboys really got a seal in the 2016 draft getting Prescott in the 4th round. Why is it that Jerry and Stephen are afraid to draft another QB when they have said many times that Prescott is their franchise QB of the future. Why would they WASTE a high draft pick on QB when they feel they have theirs? Oh also the new head coach and new QB coach think that too. Because you from your couch don't like Prescott doesn't mean that the Cowboys don't like him.
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The steal they had and everybody told them to have it did not work out. Now we will hve to pay him a lot of money. What makes you believe that Prescott will be more successfull with less talent surrounded? He needed all the talent in the world to even get us in the playoffs.

MM wont say dak is not the QB i want. How should he know, he only has film material of him. He never worked with him. And then would you? Come in the new organisation knowing that your boss loves the kid and you piss on his parade? Pretty damn sure you wont get the job.

MM will take it slow. Have a look see. Give the kid one more season and if he still does not show any significant improvement put him slowly in question.

Redball Express said:

Here is my analogy of the debate about Dak as our QB..

It's sort of like you have a daughter. She is getting married. The guy does not make alot of money. You try to tell your daughter this and that she will probably struggle her whole marriage.

But she insists and she marries him. You end up helping raise the kids because they are always broke and you have to keep propping up their family with money under the table.

After time goes by, there will be a divorce and the daughter and kids move in with you and you have to be dad and father and provider constantly. You do it becuz you love your family but what you really want is to have the daughter find another guy who can get the job done and not need constant help.

Now..what am I saying?

Ok..

Dak is the needy son in law, he wants to succeed but he needs a ton of help. You as the owner GM like your son in law and want his daughter to be protected and taken care of.

So you spend like crazy to put players around Dak and pay DAK to succeed.

But it is a constant and ongoing process and things just do not get to a closure of a title for the team.

We did this once already with Romo. Jerrah is doing it again with Dak.

I am not a Dak hater. I am a Cowboy Lover.

I wish there was a better scenario but there is not.

So we as fans sit..and wait.

And worry and spit nails and debate.

Sound familiar?

Comments certainly invited..not trying to rile you guys up. Only get things in context using easily understood scenarios. The younger fans will have no clue what the hey I am saying.

You older guys know EXACTLY what I am saying.

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Dear god, another rambling troll post.

TwentyOne said:

The steal they had and everybody told them to have it did not work out. Now we will hve to pay him a lot of money. What makes you believe that Prescott will be more successfull with less talent surrounded? He needed all the talent in the world to even get us in the playoffs.

MM wont say dak is not the QB i want. How should he know, he only has film material of him. He never worked with him. And then would you? Come in the new organisation knowing that your boss loves the kid and you piss on his parade? Pretty damn sure you wont get the job.

MM will take it slow. Have a look see. Give the kid one more season and if he still does not show any significant improvement put him slowly in question.

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Here's how foolish you are. Why do coaches look though so much film of the teams they are going to play if watching film is useless? Second is McCarthy the type of coach that's going to be a hypocrite by publicly saying he thinks Prescott is the franchise future QB and only being lip service to Jones? McCarthy made the public statements AFTER he was already hired. Now then who going into free agency this year was the NUMBER ONE ranked free agent - Prescott. Now average or below average players aren't the ones that get ranked NUMBER ONE. The only ones that don'y think the Cowboys got a steal on Prescott are Prescott haters.
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rocyaice said:

Piss poor analogy......

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Yup.

Everyone knows Dak is more like a mule and Jerry is the owner of a thoroughbred stable. Jerry accidentally finds the mule and learns he can run and win races. The old trainer can't get the mule over the top so Jerry gets a proven trainer. Jerry believes he can win the Kantucky Derby with the mule. The mule believes he can win the Derby.

One problem: Jerry wants to feed the mule B-grade meal and the mule wants better; he thinks he's earned it. Dak is one stubborn mule.

gjkoeppen said:

Here's how foolish you are. Why do coaches look though so much film of the teams they are going to play if watching film is useless? Second is McCarthy the type of coach that's going to be a hypocrite by publicly saying he thinks Prescott is the franchise future QB and only being lip service to Jones? McCarthy made the public statements AFTER he was already hired. Now then who going into free agency this year was the NUMBER ONE ranked free agent - Prescott. Now average or below average players aren't the ones that get ranked NUMBER ONE. The only ones that don'y think the Cowboys got a steal on Prescott are Prescott haters.
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Lazy posting from this guy. If you don't kiss Daks butt you're a hater. I wish you people could come with something that isn't this lazy gibberish. Daks just average so don't be mad at some for not thinking he's as great as you do.

snapper said:

Yup.

Everyone knows Dak is more like a mule and Jerry is the owner of a thoroughbred stable. Jerry accidentally finds the mule and learns he can run and win races. The old trainer can't get the mule over the top so Jerry gets a proven trainer. Jerry believes he can win the Kantucky Derby with the mule. The mule believes he can win the Derby.

One problem: Jerry wants to feed the mule B-grade meal and the mule wants better; he thinks he's earned it. Dak is one stubborn mule.

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I think it is safe saying some see Prescott as Ruth, while others see Prescott as Silver. Only fans of Gunsmoke and The Lone Ranger will get those references. I doubt 'either side' will convince the other they are wrong about either member of the equus family.

cern said:

seriously? do you really believe that. it's in our dna.

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somebody should slap your parents for handing down the dna.

Philmonroe said:

Lazy posting from this guy. If you don't kiss Daks butt you're a hater. I wish you people could come with something that isn't this lazy gibberish. Daks just average so don't be mad at some for not thinking he's as great as you do.

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Nobody says or thinks you have to kiss Prescott's butt, but this constant dribble that his just average is is predicated on one of two things. Either they are haters or they expect perfection from Prescott that they don't think other QB's do the exact same thing or worse and still be considered good. It's also funny, not ha ha funny, that people who are not even Cowboy fans going into free agency had Prescott ranked as the NUMBER ONE free agent. Now non-Cowboy fans don't rank the number one free agent if they are just average. So which is it, you're either a hater or you expect more from Prescott than what you find other QB's as good QB's
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gjkoeppen said:

Nobody says or thinks you have to kiss Prescott's butt, but this constant dribble that his just average is is predicated on one of two things. Either they are haters or they expect perfection from Prescott that they don't think other QB's do the exact same thing or worse and still be considered good. It's also funny, not ha ha funny, that people who are not even Cowboy fans going into free agency had Prescott ranked as the NUMBER ONE free agent. Now non-Cowboy fans don't rank the number one free agent if they are just average. So which is it, you're either a hater or you expect more from Prescott than what you find other QB's as good QB's
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You don’t say it but you imply by your narrow definition like people can’t see different things. Nobody expects perfection just fairness and some can’t do that. Dak doesn’t really make people better and you can’t be a top tier player imo if you don’t make lesser players better. Regardless of sport and even off the field of play those great ones make it easier for those that aren’t as talented most times in some way. I’m sure there is some outliers to what I’m saying like most things but the outlier isn’t the norm. When Dak can do that he’ll be more than average until then average he will be.

Spare me your silly number 1 FA bs. People are ranked the number 1 prospect all the time and turn out to be bust so use something that actually means something not that malarkey you’re peddling.