Video: Interview with George Iloka

BigD5 · May 9, 2020

I’m telling you guys. This coaching staff was so horrible you would never believe it. I’m talking an historically bad coaching staff.

Old terrible schemes. Bad play calling. Players playing in wrong scheme and positions.

Opposing teams knowing our plays. No coaching advantage AT ALL

We have been getting by on sheer talent and talent alone and I think we will all see that this season

buybuydandavis · May 9, 2020

fivetwos said:
It all goes back to who in the heck put that staff together?

Why weren't they all on the same page?

2018, Moore was Dak's interpreter for Linehan. They didn't communicate directly. Even during games.
#ClownTeam

Beaker42 · May 10, 2020

BigD5 said:
I’m telling you guys. This coaching staff was so horrible you would never believe it. I’m talking an historically bad coaching staff.

Old terrible schemes. Bad play calling. Players playing in wrong scheme and positions.

Opposing teams knowing our plays. No coaching advantage AT ALL

We have been getting by on sheer talent and talent alone and I think we will all see that this season

Only one team this past season made Darnold look like an NFL QB - the Dallas Cowboys.

Alexander · May 10, 2020

fivetwos said:
It all goes back to who in the heck put that staff together?

Garrett did. His complete lack of relationships across the league made it extremely difficult to piece together a staff, especially on defense. More proof he was over his head is looking what happened to the majority of his staff members. Most are in lower level positions or jobless. Compare that to how most of the Parcells staff in Dallas are in high profile positions. That was a real staff. This was a cobbled together mess.

Just look at what he had. Half a season with Paul Pasqualoni. Then the ridiculously bad Rob Ryan. Then Old Man Kiffin and then eventually to the overrated Marinelli who really wanted very little to do with the entire defense and was just concerned about his "rush men". Then add an overmatched Kris Richard. Just pathetic. Words cannot begin to describe how awful the Garrett era was.

fivetwos · May 10, 2020

BigD5 said:
I’m telling you guys. This coaching staff was so horrible you would never believe it. I’m talking an historically bad coaching staff.

Old terrible schemes. Bad play calling. Players playing in wrong scheme and positions.

Opposing teams knowing our plays. No coaching advantage AT ALL

We have been getting by on sheer talent and talent alone and I think we will all see that this season

How many times after a game was the storyline....Garrett got outcoached?

How many times was it.....Garrett really outcoached the opposition?

fivetwos · May 10, 2020

buybuydandavis said:
2018, Moore was Dak's interpreter for Linehan. They didn't communicate directly. Even during games.
#ClownTeam

Several seasons were completely wasted because Jerry knows what it's like when a real coach is in place and he doesnt like not being the top dog.

That's why, first....I need to SEE Jerry will back off before I believe it, and secondly, I may never trust that Jerry doesnt run MM out of town once the ship is righted.

fivetwos · May 10, 2020

Beaker42 said:
Only one team this past season made Darnold look like an NFL QB - the Dallas Cowboys.

Dont forget Trubisky.

fivetwos · May 10, 2020

Idgit said:
You’re not drawing a blank! You spent years and years twisting reality and ignoring results to justify hating on him. You’re not fooling me.

But that’s history. Right now we’re pretending the new guy is changing everything and we can’t believe how lucky we are. It’ll be months before we’re back ready to blame the HC for everything.

Fair assessment but I think that depends largely on how Jerry decides to behave.

If he continues to support the idea that players can go over the head of MM, then its anyone's guess, but we are at least still where other teams wont k ow exactly what we are doing on the field.

If he decides to not support that culture and tells players that all starts and ends with MM, then I think this staff coupled with this roster has a better than average chance.

JayFord · May 10, 2020

I would doubt this

but Sam Darnold already confirmed we do the same thing over and over again

reddyuta · May 10, 2020

Just a reminder that more than half the zone still though Garrett was a good coach when he was getting his extension,i always knew he was a charlatan.

Cowboys22 · May 10, 2020

BigD5 said:
I’m telling you guys. This coaching staff was so horrible you would never believe it. I’m talking an historically bad coaching staff.

Old terrible schemes. Bad play calling. Players playing in wrong scheme and positions.

Opposing teams knowing our plays. No coaching advantage AT ALL

We have been getting by on sheer talent and talent alone and I think we will all see that this season

All of that is true but that’s not even the half of it. How about separate DL and back 7 coaches basically not working together and actually running schemes that don’t really mesh with each other and a head coach that just let that happen. How about a head coach that saw his young OC getting all the praise after 3 strong offensive weeks to start the season and deciding that was unacceptable so he reinserted his old worn out uneffective scheme and basically sabotaged the season. I think he knew he was gone and didn’t care. He was going to go out with his scheme no matter how bad the team was using it. It was total disfunction all the way around and the ultimate blame does go to Jerry. You simply cannot systematically strip responsibilities away from your head coach yet leave him in place. He has no respect from his players under those circumstances.

kskboys · May 10, 2020

Cowboys22 said:
All of that is true but that’s not even the half of it. How about separate DL and back 7 coaches basically not working together and actually running schemes that don’t really mesh with each other and a head coach that just let that happen. How about a head coach that saw his young OC getting all the praise after 3 strong offensive weeks to start the season and deciding that was unacceptable so he reinserted his old worn out uneffective scheme and basically sabotaged the season. I think he knew he was gone and didn’t care. He was going to go out with his scheme no matter how bad the team was using it. It was total disfunction all the way around and the ultimate blame does go to Jerry. You simply cannot systematically strip responsibilities away from your head coach yet leave him in place. He has no respect from his players under those circumstances.

In a normal situation, I'd say there was no way that happened. However, I have yet to see an explanation that fits what happened aside from that one. Why did our schemes go back to what we were doing previous seasons? Did Moore, all by himself, implement stuff that was working, and then suddenly start thinking "This is working way too well, let's find something that doesn't work."?

It really sounds unbelievable, but if that's not what happened, what was it?

Idgit · May 10, 2020

fivetwos said:
Fair assessment but I think that depends largely on how Jerry decides to behave.

If he continues to support the idea that players can go over the head of MM, then its anyone's guess, but we are at least still where other teams wont k ow exactly what we are doing on the field.

If he decides to not support that culture and tells players that all starts and ends with MM, then I think this staff coupled with this roster has a better than average chance.

Seriously, though (and I agree with you)...you’re not actually thinking there’s a question about how Jerry is going to behave, are you? I know I’m not.

fivetwos · May 10, 2020

Idgit said:
Seriously, though (and I agree with you)...you’re not actually thinking there’s a question about how Jerry is going to behave, are you? I know I’m not.

Well, all we really have is hope.

At this point he is gonna spite all of us and live another 30 years.

fivetwos · May 10, 2020

Cowboys22 said:
All of that is true but that’s not even the half of it. How about separate DL and back 7 coaches basically not working together and actually running schemes that don’t really mesh with each other and a head coach that just let that happen. How about a head coach that saw his young OC getting all the praise after 3 strong offensive weeks to start the season and deciding that was unacceptable so he reinserted his old worn out uneffective scheme and basically sabotaged the season. I think he knew he was gone and didn’t care. He was going to go out with his scheme no matter how bad the team was using it. It was total disfunction all the way around and the ultimate blame does go to Jerry. You simply cannot systematically strip responsibilities away from your head coach yet leave him in place. He has no respect from his players under those circumstances.

I think you can also add an element of the players realizing the dysfunction and just playing for a check.

Some of the guys that know only being here under the last staff are going to be in for culture shock.

Idgit · May 10, 2020

fivetwos said:
Well, all we really have is hope.

At this point he is gonna spite all of us and live another 30 years.

Hope is not a strategy. At least we long-time fans can be honest about what the issues are in Dallas. For some reason we aren’t though.

fivetwos · May 10, 2020

Idgit said:
Hope is not a strategy. At least we long-time fans can be honest about what the issues are in Dallas. For some reason we aren’t though.

Hope is the best possible strategy when you have zero control over the situation.

Idgit · May 10, 2020

fivetwos said:
Hope is the best possible strategy when you have zero control over the situation.

I guess we’ll see how that works for you soon enough. Personally, I’d prefer we address the actual issues instead of playing 3-card Monty with QBs and coaches every five or so years.

817Gill · May 10, 2020

CATCH17 said:
It hindered Romo too but Romo was still a playmaker at the QB position and could turn water into wine at times.

Dak is just Dak. He’s neutral at the QB position. Stuck in 3rd gear. Blah.

I want some flair.. I want some prolific passing. I want a QB that opponents know can tear up their secondary.

The only way Dak gets better is if the coaching starts scheming players open.

So your issue is stylistic? Because neither QB was/is ever going to be in the elite top 3 echelon to win despite below average coaching. No matter how pretty a performance Romo gave you he wasn’t able to lift garbage coaching and spotty depth to any heights worth speaking on. How many times did Romo go 8-8 in JG’s era? No matter if Dak has an uglier play style and doesn’t have the “flair” of Romo, no non all-time great could win jack with Garrett.

Unless a Mahomes falls into our laps, you’re gonna need a real coaching staff and a good team to win anything of substance. If Dak is a borderline top 10 QB, and with all logical assumptions should take a step forward with real coaching and game planning, he’s going to be a top 8 guy. That tier of QB is not the type you look to replace, it’s the tier you build around and go for SB’s yearly.

If this team continues drafting well, and Mike is a real coach, this team will always be moderately to very talented and well coached. With a top 8 QB, that’s enough to be contenders yearly.

Ranching · May 10, 2020

It gets a bit hairy at the 69:00 part.

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