Would any fan on here pay Dak 40 million per year?

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I wouldnt want to pay that much. Anything around Goff or Wentz money and we have to be happy and accept. Its just the market speaking and starting QB's with Dak's stats get at least that much. In a couple of years I suspect 40 will be a bargain whether we like it or not. I really hope as Im sure everyone on this board hopes that Dak plays well enough this year to actually deserve 40!!
 
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I think he and his agent think they're dealing with the only team in the NFL that might approach that figure because they can't negotiate with star players.

Worth and value are words that get tossed around and he did not create the market. I would have used the non-exclusive tag and let his agent see what he could get and if there was a team willing to pay him what he wants, then I would have the option to match it or take my 2 1sts as draft capital to get Lawrence or Fields.

I would go through this season with Dalton, pay him his 7M and take my chances and I would position it to the fans what I am doing.

How many fans would rather have an off year this year, not pay Prescott 35M per and have either Lawrence or Fields? Those 2 1sts would put them in a very good place to move up to get one of them and Dalton would help get them higher in the draft as well. If Prescott has to have this certain kind of team around him, how would Lawrence or Fields benefit from that?
 

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daboyzruleperiod said:
I would definitely pay the young quarterback more than Goff & Wentz. Even if it takes $40 million.
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The Goff and Wentz thing is painful. Does anyone here think that either the Rams or Eagles is going to do something of note with those guys on those deals? LA is already losing players due to salary cap issues.

Would anyone here give Goff and Wentz those deals? I suspect that LA in particular would take back that contract if they could.

Using two bad contracts as a basis for a deal basically guarantees that you end up with a bad contract.

My hope at this point that Mahomes signs a deal and puts a cap on Dak's.
 
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It would come down to the consequences of not paying him $40 million. The consequences of not paying him $40 million and allowing him to walk would likely be a lot greater than if you pay him. If you don’t pay him and allow him to walk you could be without a QB for many years. You could end up like Cleveland, Miami and Washington. You could end up having to burn first round picks every few years trying to find a QB along with bringing in one castoff after another. Go back and review the years between Troy Aikman and Tony Romo. Would you want a repeat of those years again? While we’re looking for QB Dak could be flourishing for another team. There’s fans on this board that don’t want to pay him $30 million. The Cowboys aren’t going to leave themselves searching for QBs every year like some teams. They won’t have to pay Dak $40 million a year.
 
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I think he and his agent think they're dealing with the only team in the NFL that might approach that figure because they can't negotiate with star players.

Worth and value are words that get tossed around and he did not create the market. I would have used the non-exclusive tag and let his agent see what he could get and if there was a team willing to pay him what he wants, then I would have the option to match it or take my 2 1sts as draft capital to get Lawrence or Fields.

I would go through this season with Dalton, pay him his 7M and take my chances and I would position it to the fans what I am doing.

How many fans would rather have an off year this year, not pay Prescott 35M per and have either Lawrence or Fields? Those 2 1sts would put them in a very good place to move up to get one of them and Dalton would help get them higher in the draft as well. If Prescott has to have this certain kind of team around him, how would Lawrence or Fields benefit from that?
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JJ is in a win now mode and wants Dak as his starter. We go through this with every star we sign.

D-Law who held off shoulder surgery to get paid because his agent told him to. If I was JJ I may have let him go because of that. Send agents a message he ain’t gonna go for those tactics. Instead we sign him and he comes in out of shape.

Elliot holds out in Cabo because his agent said to. JJ signs him and he comes in out of shape.

Go back and went through it with Dez to sign him.

This will be the same. Dak will get signed to a contract. So just go ahead and do it so he don’t miss out on practice. I want him in shape.
 
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doomsday9084 said:
The Goff and Wentz thing is painful. Does anyone here think that either the Rams or Eagles is going to do something of note with those guys on those deals? LA is already losing players due to salary cap issues.

Would anyone here give Goff and Wentz those deals? I suspect that LA in particular would take back that contract if they could.

Using two bad contracts as a basis for a deal basically guarantees that you end up with a bad contract.

My hope at this point that Mahomes signs a deal and puts a cap on Dak's.
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When mahomes signs it will blow the market up. Don’t think for a second that he is gonna take a team friendly deal. I don’t care what he said. His agent is getting top dollar. 38-40 to start from the chiefs side as openers. Dak don’t have a SB ring but it won’t stop his agent from upping the price. Same goes for the next QB’s coming up for contracts. Heck tannehill just got 30 a year. Lol.
 
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It would come down to the consequences of not paying him $40 million. The consequences of not paying him $40 million and allowing him to walk would likely be a lot greater than if you pay him. If you don’t pay him and allow him to walk you could be without a QB for many years. You could end up like Cleveland, Miami and Washington. You could end up having to burn first round picks every few years trying to find a QB along with bringing in one castoff after another. Go back and review the years between Troy Aikman and Tony Romo. Would you want a repeat of those years again? While we’re looking for QB Dak could be flourishing for another team. There’s fans on this board that don’t want to pay him $30 million. The Cowboys aren’t going to leave themselves searching for QBs every year like some teams. They won’t have to pay Dak $40 million a year.
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Dak will get 35 for 4 years.
 
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glimmerman said:
I think mahomes will get it and it’s to much. But it’s the market. If we sign Dak to a 4 year deal now and he plays at a high level and gets paid again then 40 maybe low balling by then...
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Mahommes could get a LOT more than 40, if he chooses. His demands will say everything about how much he values building a team vs. his own demands. He will have an absolute blank check to fill out. But Mahommes deal, to me, is unrelated to Dak. They aren't even in the same universe.
 
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TheHerd said:
Mahommes could get a LOT more than 40, if he chooses. His demands will say everything about how much he values building a team vs. his own demands. He will have an absolute blank check to fill out. But Mahommes deal, to me, is unrelated to Dak. They aren't even in the same universe.
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Oh yeah. I agree. He mentioned wanting to keep a team together so maybe taking less. But that only happened once with brady. And mahomes ain’t brady. He will ask for big money. Dak isn’t mahomes and don’t have a SB ring. But mahomes deal will for sure raise the market. We have a few more up for extensions soon and we need to sign Dak before all these guys get paid. Pay him 35 now and watch the market go up very soon..
 
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starfan1 said:
Pandemic boredom? What are the whiners going to do after he gets paid? They’ll have to find something else to complain about but he is going to get paid
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My question is why are supposed Cowboy fans need to find things to complain about? The only thing I can think of is they're not happy unless they are complaining about something with the Cowboys.
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TheHerd said:
Mahommes could get a LOT more than 40, if he chooses. His demands will say everything about how much he values building a team vs. his own demands. He will have an absolute blank check to fill out. But Mahommes deal, to me, is unrelated to Dak. They aren't even in the same universe.
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Neither are Jackson or Watson and don't sleep on Murray.
 
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Hardline said:
I wouldnt even consider it.. He's not even worth what the franchise tag pays him. I would've gave Dak an ultimatum before the draft to sign the current deal on the table or kick rocks and drafted Jordan Love. This team isn't winning a championship with a QB taking up 13% of the cap and no elite defense anyway.

I don't know where this 40 million keeps coming from. No one in the organization has even hinted on it.
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Last season if not for a couple of injuries during the NFC championship game the packers could have gone to the Super Bowl with Rodgers taking up 15.06% of the packers cap. Surely a full 2% more of their cap than you 13% mark should have spelled doom and gloom for the packers and kept them from getting even as far as the NFC championship game.
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gjkoeppen said:
My question is why are supposed Cowboy fans need to find things to complain about? The only thing I can think of is they're not happy unless they are complaining about something with the Cowboys.
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Been around as long as I can remember going back to Meredith and he was homegrown.

There is a certain entitlement present in Texas regarding football unlike anywhere else I've ever lived. Style points matter and not all wins are equal with the Cowboys and Longhorns. The question isn't did they win but by how much. I do believe the Cowboys are the first team I've ever seen have a bad win.
 
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glimmerman said:
Dak will get 35 for 4 years.
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I think he will get 36+. But then those who hate athletes getting paid will trot out the $40M number and say, "The FO didn't cave to his $40M demand," even though it was never a demand, so they can feel that they "won" in hoping him to get less to soften the blow to the ego. Some fans are pretty sad sacks, lol.
 
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I would have used the non-exclusive tag and let his agent see what he could get and if there was a team willing to pay him what he wants, then I would have the option to match it or take my 2 1sts as draft capital to get Lawrence or Fields.
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Yeah this still makes no sense to me, on why they didn't do this.
 
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ColoradoCowboy said:
Not all disagreements are hate, a concept currently lost in today's world.

I like Dak. I have seen him progress as a QB each year. He HAS gotten better. But he is NOT one of the top QBs in the NFL. Sadly, the team gave him the Exclusive franchise tag. That was a mistake, in my opinion. The non-exclusive tag was about 24 million, the exclusive tag is about 33 million. So we are kind of stuck now. If we sign him long term, we are now talking in the 35 million a year zone. I don't think that he is worth that. If I were the GM, besides suddenly being considerably more wealthy, I would have used the NON-exclusive tag, let him shop around and see what he was worth on the open market. If he got no offers, then I can go to 30 million per year, which I think is slightly more than his worth. If he got an offer that I wanted to match, I could do that. If he got a stupidly large offer, I get 2 first round picks. As it is, I get either Dak @ 33 or nothing. Dumb.
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First off your numbers are off. If Prescott plays on the exclusive tag it's for 31 mil not 33 mil. Second you can think what you want about Prescott but going into free agency this off season Prescott was rated as the NUMBER ONE free agent in the entire NFL so if the Cowboys had used the non-exclusive tag there would have been a bidding war for him and would have ended up north of that 33 mil a year. Now if the Cowboys chose to take the two #1 draft picks fine, but then every team would have known the Cowboys would have been after a QB and there would have been at least 1 team that would have moved up in front of the Cowboys to draft Love so the Cowboys would have at that time Rush without any knowledge at that time that Dalton would get fired.

The long and the short of it is I thank God you have zero to do with the cowboys.
 
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