If Dak plays on Franchise Tag he might be leaving soon

Frozen700 · Jun 22, 2020

Hardline said:
No QB that's been franchise tagged has never re-signed with that team.
This is one reason we shouldve drafted Jordan Love.

He will regret it when he exposes himself, and the only teams that want him are real desperate teams that want him at 20-25 mil, or teams that want him as a backup.

So good for him. Play on the tag, show us who you really are

Cowboys are in a good position. He plays under the tag, doesn't produce and doesn't go far in the playoffs, at least we aren't looking forward to him next year and the year after.

#DontpayDak

Diehardblues · Jun 22, 2020

Doomsday101 said:
Some here love pushing the notion that Dallas is going to get rid of Dak. Granted it is what they want but not going to happen. Dak signing the franchise tag assures he will be playing this year and both sides will continue to work on a longterm deal that both sides want. Cowboys pushing 5 year deal pretty much tells me they want him here for the foreseeable future

But this is what drives a fan forum traffic on social media.

The drama and discussion speculating different scenarios. The same thing that drives the Regular media .

I’m not sure why fans would participate in such without interest in the rhetoric.

khiladi · Jun 22, 2020

Proof said:
And in this completely unique scenario that nobody saw coming, how much did it then cost them?

four years.. he was guaranteed 62 million and 91 total guarantee.

How is it a completely unique scenario? Dak stepped into a top flight RG and all-pro OL and bus drove his way to the play-offs with a weak schedule to 13-3, but lost to a battered GB defense. In his ‘best season’ he drove the team to 8-8 and got beaten by Wentz, who BTW is MUCH better than Dak in the red zone in particular.

Tannehill, who had the tools as a pocket passer, finally got a cast and beat the Patriots, Ravens and put up a real fight against the Chiefs in the play-offs. And he threw over 70% doing it.

Thinking Dak isn’t expendable and that Dalton can’t do what Dak does and more is almost comical to me.

Proof · Jun 22, 2020

khiladi said:
four years.. he was guaranteed 62 million and 91 total guarantee.

How is it a completely unique scenario? Dak stepped into a top flight RG and all-pro OL and bus drove his way to the play-offs with a weak schedule to 13-3, but lost to a battered GB defense. In his ‘best season’ he drove the team to 8-8 and got beaten by Wentz, who BTW is MUCH better than Dak in the red zone in particular.

Tannehill, who had the tools as a pocket passer, finally got a cast and beat the Patriots, Ravens and put up a real fight against the Chiefs in the play-offs. And he threw over 70% doing it.

Thinking Dak isn’t expendable and that Dalton can’t do what Dak does and more is almost comical to me.

Unique in that name me another qb bust that went on to be the man for another team. I guess there’s Foles but that was clearly lightning in a bottle.

I haven’t said what Dalton can or can’t do, what I’m saying is that if he can, are you ready pay HIM. 30 mil a year? At least Tannehill is fairly young

Edit sorry re-read your comment and you think Dalton can do everything AND more? Lmao.

out of your mind

khiladi · Jun 22, 2020

Proof said:
Unique in that name me another qb bust that went on to be the man for another team. I guess there’s Foles but that was clearly lightning in a bottle.

I haven’t said what Dalton can or can’t do, what I’m saying is that if he can, are you ready pay HIM. 30 mil a year? At least Tannehill is fairly young

Dalton isn’t a bust though... and I’m all for playing him short term and developing a young QB.

HellCrowe · Jun 22, 2020

Proof · Jun 22, 2020

khiladi said:
Dalton isn’t a bust though... and I’m all for playing him short term and developing a young QB.

No, he’s not a bust. He did however get benched for a guy Ive never even heard of before. And this season offers its own unique set of challenges given the pandemic. So you’d rather entrust this season to him, and let our rookie QB take over next year? Or what? Draft one high (to start next year?).

nah. I’m not with any of that. Devil you know. Not trying to waste anymore primes.

CouchCoach · Jun 22, 2020

Consider this, Prescott doesn't really care whether he signs a long term contract with the Cowboys because he doesn't care if he plays for the Cowboys.

You can go back to his desire growing up to be the DC QB but that was before he did it. Having accomplished that, the Big Top and accompanying circus might be more than he wants to deal with when there are other options.

Do you think he has more affinity for the Joneses after how they've played this negotiation? He recalls that stunt with the parking lot video of Dez Bryant and the lie he was demanding 40M a year or even 45M for that 5th year, we do not know the truth but he does. All of that was to make him look bad and greedy, who wants to play for people like that?

He bet on himself last season and he might do the same this season unless they meet his 4 year contract demand. Are the aholes that run this team so arrogant and egotistical that they're "stunned" that a player doesn't want to roll over for them? Other QB's have not rolled over for better management than these clowns will ever be. And those QB's that only wanted 4 year deals didn't see the management of their team do the deals these clowns did with the DE, RB and WR on the team.

johneric8 · Jun 22, 2020

Diehardblues said:
“The July 15 deadline is a big one for the Cowboys. The price tag may be shocking, but Prescott has a lot of leverage. Dallas can either pay up, or history shows Prescott might not be a Cowboy much longer”

History supports if he ends up playing on Tag we most likely won’t extend him.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...n-and-cowboys-should-hope-he-does/ar-BB14FUXe

So let me understand this real quick.. Most of the Dak haters have been on this forum crying about him getting paid, and in fact most said he isn't worth it and probably won't be singed. So, not that he is signing the tag at a huge price y'all are now saying he won't be Cowboys much longer? ***? He is signing the tag and will eventually sign an extension! It's time to get over the fantasy that he won't be your QB..

CouchCoach · Jun 22, 2020

Proof said:
No, he’s not a bust. He did however get benched for a guy Ive never even heard of before. And this season offers its own unique set of challenges given the pandemic. So you’d rather entrust this season to him, and let our rookie QB take over next year? Or what? Draft one high (to start next year?).

nah. I’m not with any of that. Devil you know. Not trying to waste anymore primes.

Add to that, the competition will be stiff for the two blue chippers, Lawrence and Fields, in the next draft. There are still teams out there like BUF, NYG, NYJ, CAR, WAS, LAC not totally sold that they have the best QB they could have and teams like ATL, NO, TB, PIT, IND looing to have a new QB1 not too far down the road, just like GB this year.

It's closing time at the bar and she's not a 10 or even an 8, but you don't want to go home alone.

Diehardblues · Jun 22, 2020

johneric8 said:
So let me understand this real quick.. Most of the Dak haters have been on this forum crying about him getting paid, and in fact most said he isn't worth it and probably won't be singed. So, not that he is signing the tag at a huge price y'all are now saying he won't be Cowboys much longer? ***? He is signing the tag and will eventually sign an extension! It's time to get over the fantasy that he won't be your QB..

Not what I’m saying at all. I’m not a Dak hater at all. I enjoy playing devils advocate presenting perceptions for both sides of the argument.

The point in this thread was while I think most would agree that Jerry will cave by the July 15th deadline, if we don’t resign him and let Dak play out the franchise tag it doesn’t bode as well for long term.

If your not interested in that discussion then don’t bother.

CouchCoach · Jun 22, 2020

johneric8 said:
So let me understand this real quick.. Most of the Dak haters have been on this forum crying about him getting paid, and in fact most said he isn't worth it and probably won't be singed. So, not that he is signing the tag at a huge price y'all are now saying he won't be Cowboys much longer? ***? He is signing the tag and will eventually sign an extension! It's time to get over the fantasy that he won't be your QB..

"Eventually" is the key there. I do think he will sign an 11th hour 4 year deal but only because of who he's dealing with, they're the worst in the game at dealing with stars and every agent knows it. He will get his 4 year deal or he will play on the tag but it will be his way as it was always going to be.

CouchCoach · Jun 22, 2020

Diehardblues said:
Not what I’m saying at all. I’m not a Dak hater at all. I enjoy playing devils advocate presenting perceptions for both sides of the argument.

The point in this thread was while I think most would agree that Jerry will cave by the July 15th deadline, if we don’t resign him and let Dak play out the franchise tag it doesn’t bode as well for long term.

I don't think Prescott worries about the long term. He's as durable a QB as we've seen in the game and he bet on himself last season and is willing to do the same this season. I think he's sending the message that it is time to consider him a one year QB by signing this now instead of waiting until 7/15. I think he and his agent have grown tired of dealing with these clowns. Who knows what lies would be coming out next?

Diehardblues · Jun 22, 2020

CouchCoach said:
Consider this, Prescott doesn't really care whether he signs a long term contract with the Cowboys because he doesn't care if he plays for the Cowboys.

You can go back to his desire growing up to be the DC QB but that was before he did it. Having accomplished that, the Big Top and accompanying circus might be more than he wants to deal with when there are other options.

Do you think he has more affinity for the Joneses after how they've played this negotiation? He recalls that stunt with the parking lot video of Dez Bryant and the lie he was demanding 40M a year or even 45M for that 5th year, we do not know the truth but he does. All of that was to make him look bad and greedy, who wants to play for people like that?

He bet on himself last season and he might do the same this season unless they meet his 4 year contract demand. Are the aholes that run this team so arrogant and egotistical that they're "stunned" that a player doesn't want to roll over for them? Other QB's have not rolled over for better management than these clowns will ever be. And those QB's that only wanted 4 year deals didn't see the management of their team do the deals these clowns did with the DE, RB and WR on the team.

These contract negotiations are all part of the dirty practices of the business. In the end once they’re signed these are mostly forgotten after time.

In the meantime they’re drug through the mud in the media amongst the fans and critics.

Jerry has played this well as public opinion is swaying more with the perception Prescott is demanding more than his talent level demands.

And in the end Jerry caving in will be perceived as trying to save face with an ungrateful and undeserving QB placing more pressure on Dak to carry this team with more criticism if he falls short.

Diehardblues · Jun 22, 2020

CouchCoach said:
I don't think Prescott worries about the long term. He's as durable a QB as we've seen in the game and he bet on himself last season and is willing to do the same this season. I think he's sending the message that it is time to consider him a one year QB by signing this now instead of waiting until 7/15. I think he and his agent have grown tired of dealing with these clowns. Who knows what lies would be coming out next?

I don’t recall him turning down contract extensions last year. Did we make some offers ?

I think he will sign the Tag in good faith. And he truly wants to play here. He’s just maximizing the situation like most do.

Diehardblues · Jun 22, 2020

CouchCoach said:
"Eventually" is the key there. I do think he will sign an 11th hour 4 year deal but only because of who he's dealing with, they're the worst in the game at dealing with stars and every agent knows it. He will get his 4 year deal or he will play on the tag but it will be his way as it was always going to be.

Yep

Jerry is all about proving he was right about Dak.

He’s just playing hardball for perception to those providing pushback for overpaying. He’s always been All In.

Silly · Jun 22, 2020

I think it might be possible that a deal has already been reached. Jerry just might be playing at being in the media sport light and enjoying all the attention. It gets the fans excited for the next season.

CouchCoach · Jun 22, 2020

Diehardblues said:
These contract negotiations are all part of the dirty practices of the business. In the end once they’re signed these are mostly forgotten after time.

In the meantime they’re drug through the mud in the media amongst the fans and critics.

Jerry has played this well as public opinion is swaying more with the perception Prescott is demanding more than his talent level demands.

And in the end Jerry caving in will be perceived as trying to save face with an ungrateful and undeserving QB placing more pressure on Dak to carry this team with more criticism if he falls short.

That is your perception, not everyone's.

CouchCoach · Jun 22, 2020

Diehardblues said:
I don’t recall him turning down contract extensions last year. Did we make some offers ?

I think he will sign the Tag in good faith. And he truly wants to play here. He’s just maximizing the situation like most do.

The word was they tried to get the extension done last season to not be where they are now but couldn't come to terms. I do not know what they offered.

CouchCoach · Jun 22, 2020

I hope he plays on the tag. I like this sort of thing, player betting on himself and one thing for sure, Prescott is not short on confidence. And why should he be, he did it last year and I do not point at him as the reason they went 8-8. He was better than 8-8, the coaching and the team weren't.

If Dak plays on Franchise Tag he might be leaving soon

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