Excellent quote from Mahomes Dak should read it

glimmerman · Jul 10, 2020

The contract mahomes got won’t be to team friendly if he made them pay out the last half of it. One year he looks to make almost 60 million. He won’t ever sniff the second half of that money. But he set them up in good shape for the next 5-6 years..

glimmerman · Jul 10, 2020

CowboysFaninHouston said:
how? how can we not restructure contracts to have 2M on the cap if needed....this presumes that we have the cap space and just need another couple of million.

Cut Crawford. Boom there ya go. Lol. I think he is taking a pay cut anyways.

kskboys · Jul 10, 2020

glimmerman said:
The contract mahomes got won’t be to team friendly if he made them pay out the last half of it. One year he looks to make almost 60 million. He won’t ever sniff the second half of that money. But he set them up in good shape for the next 5-6 years..

Yup.

Mahomes signed a man's contract, making him unbelievably rich.

Dak is pouting and childishly holding out for a small percentage more.

glimmerman · Jul 10, 2020

kskboys said:
Yup.

Mahomes signed a man's contract, making him unbelievably rich.

Dak is pouting and childishly holding out for a small percentage more.

I think Dak is honestly about to step in and finish this himself. They sit back and let there agent handle contract stuff but this is getting like the D-Law deal. The current offer is more than fair considering he will be making more than Wilson. His agent was going to have him sign last year until the TEAM played really good against the first 3 games and he pulled the plug. If he turned down the current 35-36 a year offer and played for 2 million instead then his agent cost him 34 million dollars and a year towards the 4 or 5 year contract.

Runwildboys · Jul 10, 2020

atlantacowboy said:
He also realizes that winning is a formula that pays dividends for the rest of his life. Joe Montana is still doing commercials.

Good point. Throw a SB winning TD or two, and you're famous in perpetuity, not just Dallas.

Runwildboys · Jul 10, 2020

xwalker said:
Reminder, @lk8701 only posts in his own threads and only creates controversial threads.

He likes to laugh at people that get worked up about his thread topics.

Well if people get worked up about it, he deserves to get his laughs.

CowboysFaninHouston · Jul 10, 2020

glimmerman said:
Cut Crawford. Boom there ya go. Lol. I think he is taking a pay cut anyways.

my point is that even if there was a 5M per year difference in the contract for Dak, it doesn't preclude us from signing players we really want, including restructuring Dak's contract and pushing money to the future.

no team, and I mean no team, can just sign all the stars they want to large contracts even if their QB made minimum (including us over the past 4 years). most teams have their stars and most good teams make it through the draft. with the cap and rookie salary cap, the draft has become extremely important.

eromeopolk · Jul 10, 2020

lk8701 said:
"The biggest thing they preached to me is kind of the same thing I already thought. It was good to just hear them. You want to have great players around you. You don't want to be a guy that takes up all the money and then all of a sudden you're having to sign different guys that will take cheaper deals. We're going to be able to reward players and keep a lot of these guys around that have built the culture even before I was here.''

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ght-security-flexibility-chiefs-landmark-deal

Did not Mahomes get $45M per year and $140M in garuantees? Dak Prescott has the following response for you and everyone to review..

Adreme · Jul 10, 2020

Northern_Cowboy said:
and it will be very easy to do because almost all of the money is not guaranteed

It's actually only 63m in full guarantees the 141m is injury guarantees if they happen in the next 3 years

I mean sort of but the way it is structured his next years salary is always guaranteed over a year in advance so he is basically uncuttable. Basically there is no year you could cut him on that deal and not incur at least 30 million in dead money.

CanadianCowboysFan · Jul 10, 2020

Jake said:
Mahomes got $477 million in guaranteed money - well over $40 million per year - and the Chiefs are able to keep a lot of other guys.

Dak is asking for less and it's a cap killer? Seems like KC is better at managing the cap than Jerry & Son. Hardly surprising.

Has it occurred to anyone that Dak might not want to hitch his wagon long-term to a team that's gone nowhere since he was in pre school?

yeah it is easy to say for Mahomes when he knows his great grandchildren will never have to work

Typhus · Jul 10, 2020

Hennessy_King said:
Its not year to year but ok. And mahomes is an absolute idiot for signing that deal

Why would you say that?
Mahomes just signed a half billion dollar contract in one of the worst potential economical times in history.
Looks like a pretty fat insurance policy from where Im standing.

Typhus · Jul 10, 2020

CouchCoach said:
LMAO, and what is Mahomes getting paid?

Did the Chiefs make a DE the highest paid at his position? How about a RB? WR? Hill is a better WR than Cooper and makes less.

The Chiefs are a hell of a lot better at cap management and also better at surrounding this QB with talent, they did it with Alex Smith.

Mahomes deal has absolutely nothing to do with Prescott's. However, a QB with the richest contract in history talking about leaving money on the table is laughable. If he continues on the path he is on now, he will get another largest contract ever within 5 years.

And they just added CEH in the draft.
KC is set to be deep contenders for several years.

Typhus · Jul 10, 2020

CouchCoach said:
Do we think they didn't do this deal with a restructure in mind down the road? Both sides know this contract will not come to fruition. Just like that 100M contract Aikman signed.

The guaranteed money weighed against the term of the deal is the critical part of it and I fail to see where Mahomes is cutting them a deal.

I also fail to see Mahomes' deal compared to what Prescott is wanting. Did the Chiefs open up the coffers and start handing out big contracts and I will argue any of those are "worthy" contracts anymore than what he wants.

This very same thing happened in PIT when they gave the QB and WR those contracts, the RB, the best one in the league at that time, wanted his pay commensurate with theirs and why wouldn't he, he was the largest % of his team's offense in the NFL.

Not considering what management has done with other stars is completely missing the point about this Prescott deal. It has nothing to do with other QB's and everything to do with what they've paid other players ahead of Prescott.

Any team fortunate enough to have Mahomes on their roster would be foolish to not back up the money truck.
Every team that has to pay their QB now outside of Baltimore is feeling nauseous.

G2 · Jul 10, 2020

Northern_Cowboy said:
He does carry the team which makes the fact he singed this deal even more incredible and shows what kind of individual he is. Team 1st....500m deal and only 63m guaranteed at signing and only a 32m average over the next 7 years or 37.9m average over the 1st 5 years of the extension should the chiefs decide they want to keep him, you see the way the deal is setup they could get out of it at their discretion anytime they want (not saying they would but they can if they choose too)

Umm, no. No he didn't.

G2 · Jul 10, 2020

kskboys said:
It's all over the news. Guess everyone's lying.

You have your own set of standards when it comes to what's reasonable, I should have just stated that. Which is totally fine and I respect that, I just disagree with the common notion that Prescott is selfish with regard to contract amounts. The staff shares everything related to the dealings.

G2 · Jul 10, 2020

kskboys said:
Yup.

Mahomes signed a man's contract, making him unbelievably rich.

Dak is pouting and childishly holding out for a small percentage more.

Now you're being silly. I get it know. And until the deadline is up, none of us really know. 5 days left.

ABQCOWBOY · Jul 10, 2020

So, here is the thing that you need to understand about Mahomeboy's contract. It's not a contract that guarantees salary, year to year. It's actually a waterfall deal that guarantees roster bonus annually. Why is that important? Because salaries pay out in the form of game checks throughout the year. This means that the team takes the full cap hit of the move to liquidate this contract in the given cap year they decide to release him. I.E. the entire cap hit in the same year. But because it's a roster bonus, the cap hit can be paid out all at once but can then be spread out over 5 years. Makes it a lot easier to liquidate if you can spread it out and save cap against the future, should you decide to go that route.

glimmerman · Jul 10, 2020

CowboysFaninHouston said:
my point is that even if there was a 5M per year difference in the contract for Dak, it doesn't preclude us from signing players we really want, including restructuring Dak's contract and pushing money to the future.

no team, and I mean no team, can just sign all the stars they want to large contracts even if their QB made minimum (including us over the past 4 years). most teams have their stars and most good teams make it through the draft. with the cap and rookie salary cap, the draft has become extremely important.

And we have been drafting very well. It’s the way for our future. These stars never have a problem with restructuring there contract and taking a signing bonus..

Runwildboys · Jul 10, 2020

CanadianCowboysFan said:
yeah it is easy to say for Mahomes when he knows his great grandchildren will never have to work

If he's smart, he'll make his kids work until they're 30, to learn the value of a dollar, and instill humility, and hopefully that'll pass on through the generations.

ABQCOWBOY · Jul 10, 2020

Runwildboys said:
If he's smart, he'll make his kids work until they're 30, to learn the value of a dollar, and instill humility, and hopefully that'll pass on through the generations.

You know, if I ever had that much money, I'm not sure I wouldn't just set enough aside for everybody to pay for college and have enough to buy a modest home and then just let them all cut their own paths.

Seriously, I might just do that and then give all the rest to a charity or some such.

Excellent quote from Mahomes Dak should read it

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