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Williamsboys said:
Looking at Prescott's scouting report coming out of college, while he has many strengths, accuracy and being confused by "intricate defensive schemes" still seems to be a weakness he sometimes has.
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The only pass I thought he really needed to clean up last year was throwing behind receivers when they were crossing the field. Otherwise, I see no issues with his accuracy now.
 
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visionary said:
It’s hard to argue with willful ignorance

You’re saying “history is not important” or “we shouldn’t draw lessons from history” then all data and stats are useless

Rather the opposite is true, if history shows certain things are done by successful teams then we should try to do as many of these as possible. We have already made some mistakes but how crazy is it to argue that we should keep making stupid decisions just because we made stupid decisions in the past?

that would be really crazy
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In the NFL its silly. I mean the Patriots have been winning Super Bowls and been in the Super Bowl the majority of the past 20 years. Every team that wins in the Super Bowl does something completely different than the last champion.

Trying to emulate what the Patriots did is going to have you looking stupid in the long haul because you don't have Bellicheck on your team.

To imply that you can only win in this league by having a rookie contract at quarterback means you must think that all funds are allocated to productive players and that's not the case. Super Bowl winners have bad players and bad contracts as well.
 
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OmerV said:
That's true, but I personally felt Dak was making a conscious effort to hang in the pocket longer, and that caused some sacks. Might just be my impression or imagination, but I felt a lot of sacks that season came when there was enough time to make the decision to the throw the ball away. I think that's also why he fumbled so much more in 2018 than in other seasons.
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Like with most things, it was a combination of factors. We had pass-blocking problems at left guard, either with Williams or Su'a-Filo, so Dak was often getting quick pressure up the middle (the most difficult pressure for QBs to handle). Second, we had a very mediocre receiver corps early on, so that caused Dak to hold the ball longer. Third, even when Dak had receivers open, he seemed to hold the ball, not showing trust in them or not feeling that he had an adequate outlet receiver (which is the problem I had with our tight ends in 2018).
 
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rocyaice said:
In the NFL its silly. I mean the Patriots have been winning Super Bowls and been in the Super Bowl the majority of the past 20 years. Every team that wins in the Super Bowl does something completely different than the last champion.

Trying to emulate what the Patriots did is going to have you looking stupid in the long haul because you don't have Bellicheck on your team.

To imply that you can only win in this league by having a rookie contract at quarterback means you must think that all funds are allocated to productive players and that's not the case. Super Bowl winners have bad players and bad contracts as well.
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like I said “can’t argue with willful ignorance”

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visionary said:
like I said “can’t argue with willful ignorance”

peace
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That's exactly what you're doing in this case. You don't have any answers for why teams with good QB's under rookie deals aren't winning Super Bowls.

You base your opinion around what past winners have done yet don't acknowledge that past winners don't have Jerry Jones as GM/Owner or have the highest paid running back in the league lol.
 
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rocyaice said:
Because you aren't paid based on NFL rankings made by NFL Coordinators or made by rankings from "Cowboyslover4life2134". There's a few things that go into getting paid and even more so at the quarterback position. Its the one position you can play into your 30's. Its the most important position on the team. You can't use the gauge you use for running back and use it for quarterback.
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But his opinion is good enough for you to use to make your case? I'm confused, if you are using his opinion you must put some merit into what he thinks and must agree with him somewhat, so i ask again why would you pay top 3 QB money to a tier 2 QB?
 
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DakPresgoat said:
The argument is because of how hard it is to find a High tier 2 QB.

It can take franchises decades to find high tier 2 QB’s and they usually need top 10 picks to do it.


That’s the argument for why you keep the QB. You don’t have to agree. I’m just putting it out there.

I would love to have Patrick Mahomes or Russell Wilson. It could legit take the cowboys 20 years to find someone that good though. And that’s not hyperbole.
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Just because it is hard to find one does not mean you pay a tier 2 QB as if he is a top 1-3 in the league that is a ridiculous argument. I would love Wilson or Mahomes too doesn't mean i'd be willing to pay Dak as if he is one of them when he is not. C'mon. The QB position is a very important position no doubt but you don't pay a 7-10 QB as if he is top 3 maybe you give him 5-6 money if your desparate but not top 1-3
 
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Northern_Cowboy said:
Just because it is hard to find one does not mean you pay a tier 2 QB as if he is a top 1-3 in the league that is a ridiculous argument. I would love Wilson or Mahomes too doesn't mean i'd be willing to pay Dak as if he is one of them when he is not. C'mon. The QB position is a very important position no doubt but you don't pay a 7-10 QB as if he is top 3 maybe you give him 5-6 money if your desparate but not top 1-3
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It’s not a ridiculous argument considering teams all over The league do it. All the time.


You disagree that’s fine. But that’s what happens.

I notice you skipped past the fact of how hard it is to replace Dak. As if that doesn’t also carry significant risks. Which it does.

Which again, is why teams pay QB’s what they do.
 
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Northern_Cowboy said:
But his opinion is good enough for you to use to make your case? I'm confused, if you are using his opinion you must put some merit into what he thinks and must agree with him somewhat, so i ask again why would you pay top 3 QB money to a tier 2 QB?
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The hell? I literally just answered your question and you are going to ask that to me again? Are you serious? What about my explanation was hard to understand? Help me help you.
 

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erod said:
Dak is one of the worst pre-snap-read QBs in the NFL.

He has no idea what he's looking at.
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Yes, you are more informed than NFL Execs and his peers who voted him in the top 2% of the league.
 
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DakPresgoat said:
It’s not a ridiculous argument considering teams all over The league do it. All the time.


You disagree that’s fine. But that’s what happens.

I notice you skipped past the fact of how hard it is to replace Dak. As if that doesn’t also carry significant risks. Which it does.

Which again, is why teams pay QB’s what they do.
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I skipped over it because i know you wouldn't like my answer but since you brought it up again. I don't think it would be hard at all to replace Dak, infact i expect it to happen at some point this season, if we play a full season
 
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rocyaice said:
The hell? I literally just answered your question and you are going to ask that to me again? Are you serious? What about my explanation was hard to understand? Help me help you.
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You never really answered it you just danced around it a bit and tried to explain it away. It's a simple question why pay a tier 2 guy top 3 money? The answer is you don't
 
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Daks good but not great. I was hoping hed sign for the offer dallas put in front of him.. we will see what happens when there's no season this year. Negotiations will be very interesting next year.
 
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