Why do people keep insisting on calling Zeke fat?

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Zeke fans can say what they want but he looks nothing like the back he was in college that merited the 4th overall pick. Watch these highlights.....the speed......the burst through the line......breaking tackles. We haven't seen that running back in over 2 years.
 

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Zeke fans can say what they want but he looks nothing like the back he was in college that merited the 4th overall pick. Watch these highlights.....the speed......the burst through the line......breaking tackles. We haven't seen that running back in over 2 years.

That's from over 5 years ago. Lmao.
 

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If half the RBs in the NFL played behind that OL of Steele, McGovern, Knight, etc - they would never get back to the line of scrimmage, much less break long runs.

This, remember Green who gave up 6 sacks to the DL for Atlanta a couple of seasons ago, this are these guys on the line now. Some would be hard press to start on the roll tide OL now.
 

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Zeke fans can say what they want but he looks nothing like the back he was in college that merited the 4th overall pick. Watch these highlights.....the speed......the burst through the line......breaking tackles. We haven't seen that running back in over 2 years.


It may surprise you to know that defensive players in the NFL are bigger faster and stronger than what Zeke faced in the Big 10. His college highlights were never going to be duplicated in the NFL with any regularity. In college in half the games there might not be a single guy on the defense as fast as Zeke.. In there are 3-4 guys on every defense faster than Zeke and 4-5 more standing on the sidelines waiting to sub in.
 

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It may surprise you to know that defensive players in the NFL are bigger faster and stronger than what Zeke faced in the Big 10. His college highlights were never going to be duplicated in the NFL with any regularity. In college in half the games there might not be a single guy on the defense as fast as Zeke.. In there are 3-4 guys on every defense faster than Zeke and 4-5 more standing on the sidelines waiting to sub in.
Yep, college football is watered down, in the NFL the talent is more concentrated.
 

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It may surprise you to know that defensive players in the NFL are bigger faster and stronger than what Zeke faced in the Big 10. His college highlights were never going to be duplicated in the NFL with any regularity. In college in half the games there might not be a single guy on the defense as fast as Zeke.. In there are 3-4 guys on every defense faster than Zeke and 4-5 more standing on the sidelines waiting to sub in.

My brother said for him, going from college to the pro game was as big as night and day because now you are playing against men not boys any longer, who are faster stronger and bigger than the college guys.
 

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Quickness has suffered along with top end. Once again compared with 2016 its indisputable
 

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You could argue he "deserved" a second contract. 2-time rushing champ, for starters.

Not sure you can argue he's lived up to it. Even during COVID/new coaching/devastating O injuries/questionable defense.

In today's NFL, no RB deserves a second contract. RB's are dime a dozen in every draft each year. You just use them up in 3 to 4 years and fetch a new one.
 

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Even Martin isn't playing at an All Pro level.
Martin's current PFF grade is actually the highest he's had in three seasons and currently the highest of any player on our roster

With Brooks being injured and Yanda retiring Martin is an absolute 100% lock to make the LG all-pro team

I mean hell the only guard in the entire NFL that's arguably better than him the last two years (Quenton Nelson who plays left side) is having a gigantic slump this year.
 

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Even Martin isn't playing at an All Pro level.

I don't think Martin played worse early in the year, its mostly the fact he is playing beween two rookies and has to cover for all the breakdowns happening around him. Against the Eagles he was one on one against one of the best DTs in the game and gave up a couple of plays but did well overall. So much of OL play is the cohesion from playing together and they have never had that at any point.
 

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Zeke fans can say what they want but he looks nothing like the back he was in college that merited the 4th overall pick. Watch these highlights.....the speed......the burst through the line......breaking tackles. We haven't seen that running back in over 2 years.

Present day zeke could still do those things against high school teams. Is it possible the defenses of the pros are better than those high schools.
 

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Trent Richardson wasn't fat either but he was too heavy to break a run longer than 15 yards.

Why do you think Zeke hasn't had a 20 yard run in two years?
He had a 24 yard run against the Browns this year.
 

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Young guys coming into the league are often times all "p*** and vinegar, coming from playing in college maybe 15 games, having to go to class instead of constantly playing, practicing, working out, etc. Yet after a few years in the league they begin to realize the NFL is a real grind. They begin to realize if they want to play a long time they better pace themselves.

Teams have more game film, defenders learn better angles to take, how fast the player really is, and adjust formations and reads to control a runner. It's not like running backs have how they do based solely on their own abilities.

And losing does wear on a person in many cases, the "why should I play my heart out just to lose?" situation. Conscious or not, it wears on a person. Just like myself as a Cowboys fan, after decades of no SBs, I'm not nearly as enthusiastic about them as I was 20 years ago.

I suspect if Zeke had a better line to play behind, more wins, a defense that gave him the ball at the other team's 30 instead of their own 20, he'd be more energetic.

Zeke's never had a major injury, still very young. And the Covid apparently does weaken a person, maybe he's still got some residual effects?

We have no idea if Zeke really is slower, etc. He may be doing better than just about anybody else would do in the same situation. Until I hear from him or reliable sources near him that he's lost a step, etc. I'm assuming he's doing as well as he can, under current circumstances...
 
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