Greatness Perspective: CeeDee passes Bullet

Established1971 · Nov 23, 2020

Bobhaze said:
You may have missed this interesting stat yesterday: Cedee Lamb passed the great Bullet Bob Hayes’ 55 year team record with the most receptions by a rookie WR- the old record being 46. Cedee now has 48. And he did it in just 10 games. This is rare air Mr. Lamb has entered.

But I also want to take a moment to put Bob Hayes’ greatness in perspective. In his 1965 rookie year, Bullet had 46 receptions for 1,003 yards, averaging a whopping 21.8 yards per reception, and had 12 receiving TDs plus a rushing TD in 13 games. This was done during an era when the passing game was not the dominant force it is today. Hayes also averaged nearly 13 yards per punt return that year. And his amazing speed produced 76 receiving TDs in his HOF career, including 5 TDs over 80 yards! And, he averaged 20 yards a reception...for his career!

Hats off to Cedee Lamb. And I’m happy to say that I was wrong about what he would accomplish this year. I had him catching about 40 passes in 16 games. I was wrong.

Here’s to a bunch more Cedee!

yeah but its a different era, he isnt even leading the rookie wr's in catches so far this year
but he IS looking great

Runwildboys · Nov 23, 2020

blueblood70 said:
lets not pull out the anointing oil , its all there in your statement, 21YPC is unheard of m=no way CEEdEE is on his level..YPC, total Yards and Tds matter far more then how many receptions..

But yes great job kid even despite having Dak, dalton, Nooch, and Gilbert throwing to you..

And Hayes had Meredith throwing to him.

Streetwise said:
They changed the way they ran defenses because of Hayes. I hope the same for Lamb.

No need. The league will just change some rules. :muttley:

plymkr · Nov 23, 2020

Bobhaze said:
You may have missed this interesting stat yesterday: Cedee Lamb passed the great Bullet Bob Hayes’ 55 year team record with the most receptions by a rookie WR- the old record being 46. Cedee now has 48. And he did it in just 10 games. This is rare air Mr. Lamb has entered.

But I also want to take a moment to put Bob Hayes’ greatness in perspective. In his 1965 rookie year, Bullet had 46 receptions for 1,003 yards, averaging a whopping 21.8 yards per reception, and had 12 receiving TDs plus a rushing TD in 13 games. This was done during an era when the passing game was not the dominant force it is today. Hayes also averaged nearly 13 yards per punt return that year. And his amazing speed produced 76 receiving TDs in his HOF career, including 5 TDs over 80 yards! And, he averaged 20 yards a reception...for his career!

Hats off to Cedee Lamb. And I’m happy to say that I was wrong about what he would accomplish this year. I had him catching about 40 passes in 16 games. I was wrong.

Here’s to a bunch more Cedee!

That's really impressive considering Dak went down early in the season and the QB play has been a hot mess with Dalton, Nooch and GG. I feel yesterday was the first good game Dalton played. So CeeDee is putting up records with below average QB play.

He's going to be a star!!!!

Zman5 · Nov 23, 2020

Lamb will just keep getting better and become a GOAT one day.

Hardline · Nov 23, 2020

Hes actually under performing my prediction.
I thought he would come in and take the league by storm.

RS12 · Nov 23, 2020

I'd like to see Cee Dee put on about 10 pounds of muscle. Would help his longevity IMO. Yeah he has been great though. A more athletic version of Drew Pearson.

bandfan · Nov 23, 2020

ABQCOWBOY said:
Also, you have to keep in mind that there is significantly more passing today then there was in that era. In the 65 season, the Cowboys only had 362 attempts for the entire season. As of last Sunday, 20 team has already attempted 422 passes and we are only through 10 games. Who knows what Bob Hayes could have done had he played in today's offense?

Imagine getting to watch Mahomes trying to overthrow Bob Hayes......

817Gill · Nov 23, 2020

armadillooutlaw said:
Ceedee is going to be an elite receiver in a year or two, IMO.
He's already a stud. His game leads me to think he will be a high volume player (85-100 catches a year).
Another question, though, is; do you keep him primarily in the slot where he has excelled, or do you eventually move him out wide?

I have him put on 5-10 lbs and just matchup everywhere

Shane612 · Nov 23, 2020

Bobhaze said:
You may have missed this interesting stat yesterday: Cedee Lamb passed the great Bullet Bob Hayes’ 55 year team record with the most receptions by a rookie WR- the old record being 46. Cedee now has 48. And he did it in just 10 games. This is rare air Mr. Lamb has entered.

But I also want to take a moment to put Bob Hayes’ greatness in perspective. In his 1965 rookie year, Bullet had 46 receptions for 1,003 yards, averaging a whopping 21.8 yards per reception, and had 12 receiving TDs plus a rushing TD in 13 games. This was done during an era when the passing game was not the dominant force it is today. Hayes also averaged nearly 13 yards per punt return that year. And his amazing speed produced 76 receiving TDs in his HOF career, including 5 TDs over 80 yards! And, he averaged 20 yards a reception...for his career!

Hats off to Cedee Lamb. And I’m happy to say that I was wrong about what he would accomplish this year. I had him catching about 40 passes in 16 games. I was wrong.

Here’s to a bunch more Cedee!

When Bob Hayes was playing, was it the pass happy league that it is now?

armadillooutlaw · Nov 23, 2020

817Gill said:
I have him put on 5-10 lbs and just matchup everywhere

Sounds like the best plan of action.

buybuydandavis · Nov 23, 2020

Bobhaze said:
You may have missed this interesting stat yesterday: Cedee Lamb passed the great Bullet Bob Hayes’ 55 year team record with the most receptions by a rookie WR- the old record being 46. Cedee now has 48. And he did it in just 10 games. This is rare air Mr. Lamb has entered.

But I also want to take a moment to put Bob Hayes’ greatness in perspective. In his 1965 rookie year, Bullet had 46 receptions for 1,003 yards, averaging a whopping 21.8 yards per reception, and had 12 receiving TDs plus a rushing TD in 13 games. This was done during an era when the passing game was not the dominant force it is today. Hayes also averaged nearly 13 yards per punt return that year. And his amazing speed produced 76 receiving TDs in his HOF career, including 5 TDs over 80 yards! And, he averaged 20 yards a reception...for his career!

Hats off to Cedee Lamb. And I’m happy to say that I was wrong about what he would accomplish this year. I had him catching about 40 passes in 16 games. I was wrong.

Here’s to a bunch more Cedee!

When comparing to Hayes also got to normalize for differences in the game over time.

In 1965 Hayes was:

4th in receiving yards
1st in receiving TDs
2nd in yards per reception (no per target data back then)

Lamb doesn't sniff any of that this year.

reddyuta · Nov 23, 2020

he would have had close to 90 catches if Dak was not injured.

Bobhaze · Nov 23, 2020

Shane612 said:
When Bob Hayes was playing, was it the pass happy league that it is now?

No.

JBond · Nov 23, 2020

armadillooutlaw said:
BTW, Bullet Bob Hayes was long before my time, but what a legacy... he would have feasted in todays passing league.

Hill would be the closest comparison, but Hill is not as tall.

JBond · Nov 23, 2020

AsthmaField said:
Metcalf is in his second season, but yeah, you’re right, this year has been unreal for the rookie wideouts.

The big 3 rookies have been Lamb, Jefferson, and Claypool. Ruggs and Jeudy aren’t far behind.

Love Lamb, but Claypool is a player also.

Bobhaze · Nov 24, 2020

JBond said:
Hill would be the closest comparison, but Hill is not as tall.

And Hayes was a scoring machine his first 4 years in the league. He scored a total of 49 TDs in his first 4 years. Receiving, Punt returns and even ran for a TD. Let that percolate. 49 in 4 years!

cowboyed · Nov 24, 2020

cern said:
How lucky were the cowboys to have lambo fall to us in the draft. Seems this draft class of top wr's has been outstanding. I'm biased, but i think we got the best of the lot.

Not only that but Lambo does the Mambo every time he scores.

IrishAnto · Nov 24, 2020

ABQCOWBOY said:
Also, you have to keep in mind that there is significantly more passing today then there was in that era. In the 65 season, the Cowboys only had 362 attempts for the entire season. As of last Sunday, 20 team has already attempted 422 passes and we are only through 10 games. Who knows what Bob Hayes could have done had he played in today's offense?

The mind boggles!
In addition back in Bob’s day the db could mug the wr on every play.
That’s not true any more.
Bob would have a field day!

Typhus · Nov 24, 2020

Love me some CD, but here is the test..
Take that turkey leg out of your mouth on thanksgiving,, WFT.. since they cant have a name.. lol whatever... ranks number 1 vs opponent passing yards per game.
Interpret as you will Cowboys nation, but lets take 1 week, one opponent at a time before we start getting all giddy.

Typhus · Nov 24, 2020

IrishAnto said:
The mind boggles!
In addition back in Bob’s day the db could mug the wr on every play.
That’s not true any more.
Bob would have a field day!

Back when the game was played

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