Dak or Dalton?

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NO it should have what i CHOSE to submit , not you..do you stay in your lane while i do you..

however those look like one shot muzzle loaders , so it applies. BTW a backup qb playing with mostly a lost broken severely inured team sure is getting a lot of negative energy for ZERO Reason..*seems like Dak slobberers dont like his position threatened..lol Inform Dak Dont freaking get hurt and take 32 mil and stop rejecting contracts as this mess was caused by Dak and his agents, had great deals he left on the table and now last year his shoulder and piss poor play against the eagles and this seasons ankle has cost us two losing seasons B2B..you want to be critical be critical of a Player who wants 40mil vs the one making 3mil and played through a concussion and Covid..

we know AD is a backup and hes being over criticized as i see the exact same area of stats for the bottom 16 teams starting qbs let alone a backup

some serious issues in the zone , seriously seek help.






Typical Prescott hater EXAGGERATING things. Dalton DIDN'T play through having a concussion or covid, he missed two games because of those. Dalton only got 3 mil because he's JUST a BACKUP QB. As far as Dalton out playing Prescott he has 1 less pass attempt but more picks and 540 fewer yards. The most yardage he has had this season is 285 and hasn't gotten to 300 yards yet. Prescott has 3 games in a row, AN NFL RECORD of 450 or more yards. Last season Prescott led this team to the #1 offense in the league and while playing this year they were #1 again. Since Dalton took over the Cowboys have the 27th ranked offense.
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Typical Prescott hater EXAGGERATING things. Dalton DIDN'T play through having a concussion or covid, he missed two games because of those. Dalton only got 3 mil because he's JUST a BACKUP QB. As far as Dalton out playing Prescott he has 1 less pass attempt but more picks and 540 fewer yards. The most yardage he has had this season is 285 and hasn't gotten to 300 yards yet. Prescott has 3 games in a row, AN NFL RECORD of 450 or more yards. Last season Prescott led this team to the #1 offense in the league and while playing this year they were #1 again. Since Dalton took over the Cowboys have the 27th ranked offense.
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only record that mater is like 7-10 in like the last 17 games played with Dak.. off my head not for sure exact record but we went lie 3-5 to end last year and started 1-3 etc etc no records to see here lol

100% he had a worse line then DAKS ever played with for 2 of the games then loses more ion other games..no way you can truly try and cover that up..Dak was missing two tackles we had guys to cover that up decently we lost like 6 more after in and out , No Martin Biadasz looney, Ervin , knight mad Steele LL IN AN SOUT OF GAMES BEFORE MOST STARTED IE FIRST SERIES, they dropped like flies

you cant compare sure daks better QB but Dalton did pay through that coming back off both c19 and concussion makes you out of sorts missing 3 weeks then come back and immediate lose two more OL same thing that happed in WFT1 ..far more injuries and changes were made AFTER DAKS injuries..i mean zekes worst game the B2B fumble games were with dalton, dropped TDs and TO with the WRs started with Dalton etc etc he had by far a worse situation then Dak did , of course Daks better , that im not arguing but this went from Shaky to sunk not just because dak went down but much much worse injuries' happened, younger player ion defense were brought in and guys cut traded etc etc..nbot even a close comp on who had the worst situation to try and play with, DALTION..

I never said once he outplayed him you are arguing with yourself or someone else..we arent comparing simply telling the truth unlike you..

1-3when he got hurt and well not be available after being paid 32 mil is not positive movign forward for a big deal..we both know it..

dak was 8-8 with relatively healthy team in year it was right there and actually slumped big time the last 5-6 games then stars 1-3 come on ... rip on Dalton all you want but if we lose anyway losing 30-13 or 30-27 its still loss and cheaper loss with backup qb at 3 mil vs 32 mil starter

odd Seatle had horrible defense and very average OL managed to start them 6-0 before he had few bad TO games..why hes elite can carry a team far more then Dak can..
 

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I don't disagree that you have to sign some free agents. probably for depth, to improve depth (as we can attest to the need this year). but you CANNOT build a team through FA. offense or defense. you don't go on a FA spending spree to sign high priced FAs to build a strong defense. no team has ever succeeded in trying to do that......






A prime example of this is one year the skins had the 26th ranked defense and in the next free agent period they went out and sign every big name defensive player they could get like Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders, Dana Stubblefield and the next season they ranked 24th. They couldn't play together because they each thought they were the main man and everyone else had to do whatever they didn't do.
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only record that mater is like 7-10 in like the last 17 games played with Dak.. off my head not for sure exact record but we went lie 3-5 to end last year and started 1-3 etc etc no records to see here lol

100% he had a worse line then DAKS ever played with for 2 of the games then loses more ion other games..no way you can truly try and cover that up..Dak was missing two tackles we had guys to cover that up decently we lost like 6 more after in and out , No Martin Biadasz looney, Ervin , knight mad Steele LL IN AN SOUT OF GAMES BEFORE MOST STARTED IE FIRST SERIES, they dropped like flies

you cant compare sure daks better QB but Dalton did pay through that coming back off both c19 and concussion makes you out of sorts missing 3 weeks then come back and immediate lose two more OL same thing that happed in WFT1 ..far more injuries and changes were made AFTER DAKS injuries..i mean zekes worst game the B2B fumble games were with dalton, dropped TDs and TO with the WRs started with Dalton etc etc he had by far a worse situation then Dak did , of course Daks better , that im not arguing but this went from Shaky to sunk not just because dak went down but much much worse injuries' happened, younger player ion defense were brought in and guys cut traded etc etc..nbot even a close comp on who had the worst situation to try and play with, DALTION..

I never said once he outplayed him you are arguing with yourself or someone else..we arent comparing simply telling the truth unlike you..

1-3when he got hurt and well not be available after being paid 32 mil is not positive movign forward for a big deal..we both know it..

dak was 8-8 with relatively healthy team in year it was right there and actually slumped big time the last 5-6 games then stars 1-3 come on ... rip on Dalton all you want but if we lose anyway losing 30-13 or 30-27 its still loss and cheaper loss with backup qb at 3 mil vs 32 mil starter

odd Seatle had horrible defense and very average OL managed to start them 6-0 before he had few bad TO games..why hes elite can carry a team far more then Dak can..




I see just another Prescott hater spinning things one way for Dalton and a completely different way for Prescott. For Dalton you can use the rest of the team to account for losses but it's only Prescott's fault for the losses the Cowboys had while he played. After Dalton's concussion and covid DiNucci started the next game and Gilbert started the next game and then their bye. So missing the bye week is such a huge problem for Dalton.

According to your thinking good QB's don't lose games but Wilson has so I guess that theory is blown out of the water. Not only that he lost 2 in a row. Oh no, Tom Brady lost 2 in a row too. What's this world coming to when good QB's are losing multiple games in a row. I'll bet Wilson and Brady's teams had some underlying reason for those losses that according to you Prescott doesn't get.

Don't bother to reply I'll just ignore it.
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I see just another Prescott hater spinning things one way for Dalton and a completely different way for Prescott. For Dalton you can use the rest of the team to account for losses but it's only Prescott's fault for the losses the Cowboys had while he played. After Dalton's concussion and covid DiNucci started the next game and Gilbert started the next game and then their bye. So missing the bye week is such a huge problem for Dalton.

According to your thinking good QB's don't lose games but Wilson has so I guess that theory is blown out of the water. Not only that he lost 2 in a row. Oh no, Tom Brady lost 2 in a row too. What's this world coming to when good QB's are losing multiple games in a row. I'll bet Wilson and Brady's teams had some underlying reason for those losses that according to you Prescott doesn't get.

Don't bother to reply I'll just ignore it.
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A prime example of this is one year the skins had the 26th ranked defense and in the next free agent period they went out and sign every big name defensive player they could get like Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders, Dana Stubblefield and the next season they ranked 24th. They couldn't play together because they each thought they were the main man and everyone else had to do whatever they didn't do.
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that's the point I have been driving. none of these dak detractors are able to provide actual names of FAs they would sign or that we couldn't sign even with Dak's 34M contract this year. the fact is, that if a player is worth it, his team keeps them. they are either old, often injured or head cases to reach FA and their teams dumping them.

Dak's contract is not the issue.

the issue is bad defensive drafts. why can't we draft well defensively...yet hit on offensive players.....get to the bottom of that and we fix the defensive issues. These are our last 5 years defensive drafted players in the first 4 rounds

2020 - Diggs, Gallimore, Reggie Robinson....book is out on both of them....I like digg's potential, but in a pure measuring of how he played this year, its not been very good.
2019 - Hill, Michael Jackson.....Hill sucked last year, was average this year, although he got the team excited because he "contributed"....not great, but contributed...geesh....a rotational player at best and not a very good one at that
2018 - LVE, Armstrong...LVE is the best of the lot, and I am not impressed. had injury history. was injured for 1.5 years and he has regressed....not dominant or impactful.
2017 - Taco, Awuzie, Lewis.....geesh..taco is gone. lewis soon to be gone and everyone is talking about drafting a CB next year....so it means replacing Awuzie
2016 - Smith, Collins, Tapper....Jaylon was a risky pick. and he has regressed. he is not dominant and continuoulsy ranks as pretty bad among starting LBs....I wish him gone....the other two are gone.

that's 14 defensive players and none of them are dominant or among the best or top 20 in the league.....that sucks... compare that to Offensive players drafted in the same period. Only one can be considered good and that's LVE

2020 - CD - Biadasz 'nuff said...throwing in Biadasz although he was a fift round pick, but he is graded as top 2,3 best run blockers already.....and is probably future dominant center for us
2019 - Cooper, McGovern, Pollard - McGovern was a reach. but pollard is contributing and has been impactful....I put cooper here, because we gave up a first for him.....
2018 - Connar Williams, Gallup....although williams was a reach and we really wanted Goedert, he is a starter and is grading out decently..Gallup is great
2017 - Switzer - gone
2016- Zeke, Prescott....'nuff said despite all the hate because of contracts...
 

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lol. Dak lead the #1 offense. Dalton is terrible.

Dak is MUCH better obviously, saying that, we were still 1-3 with that #1 offense, as you know, many of the yards came while trailing by a lot in those first 4 games, those yards made this offense ranked that high, they really struggled early in ball games and had a bunch of TO’s.
 

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Dak is MUCH better obviously, saying that, we were still 1-3 with that #1 offense, as you know, many of the yards came while trailing by a lot in those first 4 games, those yards made this offense ranked that high, they really struggled early in ball games and had a bunch of TO’s.
true, but dismissing defenses short comings and ineptness is hiding dirt under the carpet...the facts are that with 3 minutes to go we either had the lead or leading in those games. the game is 4 quarters and it unfolds differently. most NFL games go into the 4th quarter with striking distance and the last few minutes.....what you want is a chance at winning. without Dak we have had no chance, except against Bengals and Moore calling his best game of his young career against minn. both of those games, the defense played really well...that's all we needed.
 
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I really don't understand the QB hatred around here, nor the love.
IMO, you cannot compare Dak to Dalton this year. Dink and Dunk Dak was totally criticized his first years for being at best a bus driver, and only handing off to Zeke who was the best back ever. (possible best OL in league)
Now those that LOVE Dak talk about how he was setting the world on fire, and how Dalton sucks.
Dalton is 1)new to the system, 2)lost the starting TE, 3)top three tackles, 4)the center, and most of the time the 5)All-Pro guard...............but is still expected to have the same numbers as the guy who was in his 5th year with these players.
Even Zeke looks like crap this year due to the injuries on the OL.

So I don't understand either side and how you can compare apples to oranges -- unless you just want to argue.

A great line makes a good QB look GREAT. An awful line makes a GREAT QB look awful. Games are still won in the trenches, and to me it is awful hard to compare QB's this year with so much turnover on the OL. Maybe it is just me, but I don't see the Love nor the Hate for either of them.
 

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Typical Prescott hater EXAGGERATING things. Dalton DIDN'T play through having a concussion or covid, he missed two games because of those. Dalton only got 3 mil because he's JUST a BACKUP QB. As far as Dalton out playing Prescott he has 1 less pass attempt but more picks and 540 fewer yards. The most yardage he has had this season is 285 and hasn't gotten to 300 yards yet. Prescott has 3 games in a row, AN NFL RECORD of 450 or more yards. Last season Prescott led this team to the #1 offense in the league and while playing this year they were #1 again. Since Dalton took over the Cowboys have the 27th ranked offense.
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Stats don’t make wins alone. How many W’s did all that bring? You know the answer.

Stats bring in contract dollars, but wins bring championships. End of story
 

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Stats don’t make wins alone. How many W’s did all that bring? You know the answer.

Stats bring in contract dollars, but wins bring championships. End of story



Oh I see having the 32nd ranked defense is Prescott's fault this season and having the 25th ranked defense last season was also Prescott's fault too. When you have the #1 offense but a defense that can't stop the other team and you lose it's because the #1 offense couldn't score even more points to cover for the poor defense.
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Oh I see having the 32nd ranked defense is Prescott's fault this season and having the 25th ranked defense last season was also Prescott's fault too. When you have the #1 offense but a defense that can't stop the other team and you lose it's because the #1 offense couldn't score even more points to cover for the poor defense.
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Dalton had less than Dak did.....OL is gone.

Dak isn't worth the cash he thinks he is. If he was solid, the deal would have been done last summer, or even before that.
 

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Dalton had less than Dak did.....OL is gone.

Dak isn't worth the cash he thinks he is. If he was solid, the deal would have been done last summer, or even before that.

So he plays with no OL? LOL.
 

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Dak is MUCH better obviously, saying that, we were still 1-3 with that #1 offense, as you know, many of the yards came while trailing by a lot in those first 4 games, those yards made this offense ranked that high, they really struggled early in ball games and had a bunch of TO’s.

Averaged 32.5 ppg. Someone can correct me.
 

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Oh I see having the 32nd ranked defense is Prescott's fault this season and having the 25th ranked defense last season was also Prescott's fault too. When you have the #1 offense but a defense that can't stop the other team and you lose it's because the #1 offense couldn't score even more points to cover for the poor defense.
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Dak also doesn’t help the defense by always making us play from behind. He never or hardly ever gives this defense the lead. The defense is always expected to keep us in the game until dak is ready to play mid 3rd 4th qtr.
 

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Dak also doesn’t help the defense by always making us play from behind. He never or hardly ever gives this defense the lead. The defense is always expected to keep us in the game until dak is ready to play mid 3rd 4th qtr.

Zeke and the lack of a run game.
 

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Aikman won 3 titles with
  • Excellent coaches
  • Excellent OL
  • HOF WR
  • HOF RB
  • Excellent defense
As those declined, Aikman did not look like HOFer. It’s crazy to compare Romo or Dak to him or to judge them by championships when they played with lesser coaching and very poor defenses.
 
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