Honestly...a lot of them aren't even in the league anymore lol. Some of them are backups.who cares what team theyre with...are they still a starter, thats what matters.
Well that's rich.Actually, what you're doing is nitpicking because you don't like the result. It's a defined period of factual information.
Its hard to fathom being drafted in 2010 as a quarterback and already being out of the league.....wow.Crazy. Really only 7 of the 14 since then look safe to stay on the same team.
2009
Stafford
Sanchez
Freeman
2010
Bradford
Tebow
2011
Cam
Locker
Gabbert
Ponder
2012
Luck
RG3
Tannehill
Weedon
2013
EJ Manuel
2014
Bortles
Manziel
Bridgewater
2015
Winston
Mariota
2016
Goff
Wentz
Lynch
2017
Trubisky
X Mahomes
Watson
2018
X Mayfield
Darnold
X Allen
Rosen
X Jackson
2019
X Murray
X Jones
Haskins
2020
X Burrow
Tua
Love
who cares what team theyre with...are they still a starter, thats what matters.
That's not a catch-all either. Someone like Wentz for example could just be a bridge QB.
2009:
Matthew Stafford - starter
Mark Sanchez - Nah
Josh Freeman - Nah
2010:
Sam Bradford - Nah
Tim Tebow - Nah
2011:
Cam Newton - Probably Nah
Jake Locker - Nah
Blaine Gabbert - Nah
Christian Ponder - Nah
2012:
Andrew Luck - Retired
Robert Griffin III - Nah
Ryan Tannehill - starter
Brandon Weeden - Nah
2013:
EJ Manuel - Nah
2014:
Blake Bortles - Nah
Johnny Manziel - Nah
Teddy Bridgewater - starter (but barely)
2015:
Jameis Winston - maybe this year but not last year
Marcus Mariota - Nah
2016:
Jared Goff - starter
Carson Wentz - starter
Paxton Lynch - Nah
So does 5 out of 22 feel better when you look at all these names?
Listening to Donny and Sorois on the Ticket and they are doing a segment called "First round QBs suck." and then went through all 22 QBs that were drafted in the first round during that time frame and it shocked even me that not a single one is still with the team that drafted him. And almost half of them are out of the league.. Most of the ones still around are backups and not one is playing at a high level consistently these days. Wow.. just wow.. All the more reason that the Cowboys need to hang onto the guy they got and not waste draft capital trying to replace what they already have. No don't destroy your cap with the deal.. but the evidence is overwhelming that drafting a QB in the first round does little or nothing to guarantee the guy's gonna turn out to be any good.
So you're sayin' if we draft a QB in the 2nd round we're Good!!??
So, Dak as a 4th round pick is a better option?
While true...even if you add quarterbacks from later years.....still bad. Tribusky and Darnold are about to be added to that list. Deshaun is begging to join them.
Yes but the reality is QB is no different than most other positions. Most players fail. Most first rounders don't become studs. People are focusing on QB here, I guess, as some part of their defense of the notion we should give Dak whatever he wants.
So does 5 out of 22 feel better when you look at all these names?
Look back at David Carr's career. Except for his 2nd year (when he started in 11 games), he started every game the other 4 seasons. Carr was sacked 249 times while with the Texans (2002-2006). That was an average of almost 50 times each season. The actual breakdown - 76 (all-time NFL record), 15, 49, 68 (third most alltime), 41.I also heard that some NFL scouts said it's tough to look at this without adding some caveats. Some of these QBs ended up with bad teams and bad situations. One scout said that people don't realize if you are a good QB who gets stuck on a bad team for years, it could stunt your development and end up out the league. Also, some guys taken by bad teams do get better after getting out from under the crap situations they are in (take Ryan Tannehill for example). There's no doubt the hit rate on first round QBs (shoot any round QB) isn't great but the 0 for 22 is a bit skewed according to what I had heard.
Last also note you are seeing some first round QBs in recent drafts have success - Mahomes and Allen for starters. Murray looks like a player. Burrow was off to a great start before getting hurt. Herbert was also playing very well for a rookie. Lamar Jackson has his warts but he's been pretty good. Mayfield also has his issues but he's been at least serviceable.
I also heard that some NFL scouts said it's tough to look at this without adding some caveats. Some of these QBs ended up with bad teams and bad situations. One scout said that people don't realize if you are a good QB who gets stuck on a bad team for years, it could stunt your development and end up out the league. Also, some guys taken by bad teams do get better after getting out from under the crap situations they are in (take Ryan Tannehill for example). There's no doubt the hit rate on first round QBs (shoot any round QB) isn't great but the 0 for 22 is a bit skewed according to what I had heard.
Last also note you are seeing some first round QBs in recent drafts have success - Mahomes and Allen for starters. Murray looks like a player. Burrow was off to a great start before getting hurt. Herbert was also playing very well for a rookie. Lamar Jackson has his warts but he's been pretty good. Mayfield also has his issues but he's been at least serviceable.
So then why start at 2009?Maybe because a QB drafted in 2017 would still be on his rookie contract. It's only this year that a player would play through any 5th year option if not extended.
I cant care less about the resultActually, what you're doing is nitpicking because you don't like the result. It's a defined period of factual information.
But as they say in every investment pitch, past performance is no predictor of future results...with the possible exceptions of Jerry and Stephen Jones.