Something has to give. (QB Salaries)

Typhus · Mar 8, 2021

CowboyRoy said:
At least Dak has the production to back it up and plays the most important position in football.

Your right, Dak does have the production and he does play arguably the most important position in the game.
Im just asking you to think about what you just said, just take a few minutes and actually postulate.
Im not trying to be a smart### here, Im just saying that there has to be a reasonable term, an agreement that both sides can come to.
I have never stated that Dak is a horrible QB, that would be a ridiculous assumption, but I have also stated many times that he is non deserving of franchise elite money, even Romo knew what his pay day was.
Dak is a fool because he lets a fraud like France get into his brain.

Dre11 · Mar 8, 2021

Rayman70 said:
Major league baseball will rue the day they didnt fix their cap. The NBA does it right as far as how they structure deals/cap etc. They play a ton more games too.

and the top players get to name their price, the money is much more too.

Rayman70 · Mar 8, 2021

Dre11 said:
again, if he's deemed the most important player on the team then why not? I doubt its ever 80%, in any business there's a pecking order, supervisors, managers...etc. all their salaries get higher with each position.

winning still matter right? That is why. Its very simple.You also do not want 1 player thinking he wields more power over the franchise than owners,coaches etc. Its the nature of the beast.

Rayman70 · Mar 8, 2021

Dre11 said:
and the top players get to name their price, the money is much more too.

that must change. The employer/market should set price..not the agent. SET PRICES need to be dependent upon position you play also. QB should get the most but should have a limit.

CowboyRoy · Mar 8, 2021

Typhus said:
Your right, Dak does have the production and he does play arguably the most important position in the game.
Im just asking you to think about what you just said, just take a few minutes and actually postulate.
Im not trying to be a smart### here, Im just saying that there has to be a reasonable term, an agreement that both sides can come to.
I have never stated that Dak is a horrible QB, that would be a ridiculous assumption, but I have also stated many times that he is non deserving of franchise elite money, even Romo knew what his pay day was.
Dak is a fool because he lets a fraud like France get into his brain.

Dak has been the biggest bargain in football for 4 years. Its not his fault Jerry can build a defense or had losers like Garrett coaching the team. Even at 31 million that was a great price. Dak has earned every penny and thats definitely what he is thinking.

France was a horrible choice.

Still, I gladly dump Zeke or Jaylon and sign Dak. We dont need either.

Dre11 · Mar 8, 2021

Rayman70 said:
as they demand/command more money, more games are required...it works both ways doesn't it?

more games aren't required, they're nice but then you need more players, players bodies wont hold up if you keep adding games, then you water down your product

Rayman70 · Mar 8, 2021

Dre11 said:
more games aren't required, they're nice but then you need more players, players bodies wont hold up if you keep adding games, then you water down your product

it all depends when the proposed 17th game is. Is it early in the year or is it in late Nov? Thats a fair argument.

Dre11 · Mar 8, 2021

Rayman70 said:
that must change. The employer/market should set price..not the agent. SET PRICES need to be dependent upon position you play also. QB should get the most but should have a limit.

the market do set the price, as do the tag. the agents work off other contracts. How do you put a limit on it, How do you determine a limit with a bargaining agreement?

Dre11 · Mar 8, 2021

Rayman70 said:
it all depends when the proposed 17th game is. Is it early in the year or is it in late Nov? Thats a fair argument.

I dont think it matters, 17 weeks is 17 weeks.

Rayman70 · Mar 8, 2021

Dre11 said:
the market do set the price, as do the tag. the agents work off other contracts. How do you put a limit on it, How do you determine a limit with a bargaining agreement?

based on performance and years vested in the nfl.

Dre11 · Mar 8, 2021

Rayman70 said:
winning still matter right? That is why. Its very simple.You also do not want 1 player thinking he wields more power over the franchise than owners,coaches etc. Its the nature of the beast.

winning matters, of course, but it the GM job to find players required to win. Stephen has said that himself, Wielding power? the owner still have the power.

Cowboys22 · Mar 8, 2021

Yes, something has to give. Some team has to stand up and say no to paying a top 10 QB like he is #1 or #2 in the league simply because it's his turn for a new deal. This reminds me of real estate booms where every house sells for $5,000-$10,000 more than the last sale in the neighborhood no matter if it's smaller or has less updating. It can't continue but which team is going to say no and lose their QB? I would have no problem if that team became Dallas. I like Dak but he hasn't earned being paid right behind Mahomes, especially coming off a serious injury. If his demands are true, I have no problem using the transition tag on him if that is even possible and drafting a QB in the 1st. Maybe someone will make him an offer and give us their picks but I'll take the comp 3rd and no $40 million salary as a consolation prize.

Rayman70 · Mar 8, 2021

Dre11 said:
winning matters, of course, but it the GM job to find players required to win. Stephen has said that himself, Wielding power? the owner still have the power.

still have to pay them. How you do that when 80% of your cap gets eaten by 1 guy?

Dre11 · Mar 8, 2021

Rayman70 said:
based on performance and years vested in the nfl.

so are you changing the bargaining agreement? how do you maintain the 51-49 split doing that?

Playmaker3128 · Mar 8, 2021

I want dak on this team but to say he’s worth anywhere close to mahomes money is absurd.

Last year people want to point out daks stats for calling him a top 5 qb. In the falcons game dak was part of the reason we needed to even comeback in the first place. With his bad turnovers early. In the Seahawks game he made crucial mistakes end of both halves.... against the browns. Offense was non existent for 2 quarters.

the year before in a weak division he couldn’t beat the jets and a depleted eagles team week 16.

Dak needs to start beating winning teams before we say he’s anywhere near top 5.

Typhus · Mar 8, 2021

CowboyRoy said:
Dak has been the biggest bargain in football for 4 years. Its not his fault Jerry can build a defense or had losers like Garrett coaching the team. Even at 31 million that was a great price. Dak has earned every penny and thats definitely what he is thinking.

France was a horrible choice.

Still, I gladly dump Zeke or Jaylon and sign Dak. We dont need either.

Yes, well Dak isnt on that 4 year bargain anymore,, when do you start see the light.
Dak isnt on the four year bargain, and we have seen what Dak could do in that time frame.
Parcells was and is a very smart man, and I respect what he says.
Something the Big Tuna once said that has always stuck with me...
"You don't get any medal for trying something, you get medals for results."

Dre11 · Mar 8, 2021

Cowboys22 said:
Yes, something has to give. Some team has to stand up and say no to paying a top 10 QB like he is #1 or #2 in the league simply because it's his turn for a new deal. This reminds me of real estate booms where every house sells for $5,000-$10,000 more than the last sale in the neighborhood no matter if it's smaller or has less updating. It can't continue but which team is going to say no and lose their QB? I would have no problem if that team became Dallas. I like Dak but he hasn't earned being paid right behind Mahomes, especially coming off a serious injury. If his demands are true, I have no problem using the transition tag on him if that is even possible and drafting a QB in the 1st. Maybe someone will make him an offer and give us their picks but I'll take the comp 3rd and no $40 million salary as a consolation prize.

the league did this, so now the players should suffer?

Dre11 · Mar 8, 2021

Playmaker3128 said:
I want dak on this team but to say he’s worth anywhere close to mahomes money is absurd.

Last year people want to point out daks stats for calling him a top 5 qb. In the falcons game dak was part of the reason we needed to even comeback in the first place. With his bad turnovers early. In the Seahawks game he made crucial mistakes end of both halves.... against the browns. Offense was non existent for 2 quarters.

the year before in a weak division he couldn’t beat the jets and a depleted eagles team week 16.

Dak needs to start beating winning teams before we say he’s anywhere near top 5.

so did anyone say Romo shouldn't have been the top played qb when his turn came?

Dre11 · Mar 8, 2021

Rayman70 said:
still have to pay them. How you do that when 80% of your cap gets eaten by 1 guy?

again it's what the league bargained, do away with the salary cap. if you cant run your teams with a salary cap. I don' t get it, the owners/gm get to say bye bye whenever they want. but that's cool?

CATCH17 · Mar 8, 2021

Dre11 said:
so did anyone say Romo shouldn't have been the top played qb when his turn came?

There wasn't as much information then as there is now about paying QB's.

It was obviously a mistake paying him like we did.

Now that we have that information it would be stupid to make the same mistake. I understand though a lot of you have no problem being stupid and will cheer Jerry on while he does it.

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