News: PFT: Should the Cowboys have let Dak Prescott hit the open market?

fivetwos said:

If Dallas didn't tag him they would have lost what little leverage they had remaining.

If they DID tag him non exclusive, they would have to live with matching the short term deal Washington would have offered in the first hour....and they would have had zero cap flexibility along the way.

Anyone who thinks Washington wouldn't have done that figuring they won either way isn't paying much attention.

Maybe the market is soft for other positions, but not for a QB like Prescott, regardless of what anyone around here may think of him.

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true, Washington would offer 50 million for 1 year and force us to match,,,

Reality said:

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DEAR MR REALITY--- No sir we did the right thing locking up Dak....if you have noticed he has improved footwork..stepping into throws...using hips for torque...and field awareness...plus he is a tough cookie and great leader
we paid a lot yes....but that is going rate these days....i want to pick up Surtain at 10th pick to couple with Diggs and hopefully we pick up Hooker and Kazee to go along with Neal and Wilson and we may have most formidable
DB backfield in league...by the way Surtain ran 4.42 at pro day....we pick up another good OT and DT in draft along with other good picks and we might be crazy good...just saying its very possible?

GORICO said:

DEAR MR REALITY--- No sir we did the right thing locking up Dak....if you have noticed he has improved footwork..stepping into throws...using hips for torque...and field awareness...plus he is a tough cookie and great leader
we paid a lot yes....but that is going rate these days....i want to pick up Surtain at 10th pick to couple with Diggs and hopefully we pick up Hooker and Kazee to go along with Neal and Wilson and we may have most formidable
DB backfield in league...by the way Surtain ran 4.42 at pro day....we pick up another good OT and DT in draft along with other good picks and we might be crazy good...just saying its very possible?

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Was waiting for your Quadruple Quantum Plat that we were going to sign Dak but it happened anyway.

Swagger said:

How does the injury not matter!?

He still can't even run. I think anyone would consider that to be a concern objectively

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still cant run NOW, as hes healing slowly working more ito his rehab, thats natural..um when game 1 September 4th?? lets count healing well now, on track and we are 5.5 months before we need him to get ready for game 1..think abut that over FIVE(5) months. They said hes comfortable being ready for Training camp which is when? june? that 2.5 months away so its not a concern , lets use some logic here you truly believe they haven't had multiple doctors let them know how its healing before they signed him to this deal knowing Dak will be starting game 1..

Typhus said:

except understanding the mistakes we make in the past might be educational to learn from past errors so that you do not keep repeating the same mistake.

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Typhus--- personally i wish we would not have sunk so much money into Zeke....and Lawrence...we had to do Cooper because we did not know we would get CeeDee....for me it just not worth paying big buck second contract
for running back unless he is a Peterson type....our second string #20 to me is better than Zeke as it stands right now and much cheaper....dont pay second contracts on RB's just keep getting new ones every other draft
but we had to lock in Dak....it was not mistake...yes Jone's know they should have swallowed their pride and locked him up at 35 million last year or year before....i have payed very close attention to Dak's improvement
as a passer these last 2 years and he is so much better that along with his field awareness....we got our franchise QB now lets get Surtain at #10...another good OT and DT and pick up Hooker and Kazee to go along with hybrid Neal safety weakside LB and Wilson who brings the wood along with Diggs and Brown and we have kick butt DB backfield...a decent defensive line and good rushers in Lawrence and Gregory and pick up another LB to help our LB core and
we are going to be a real good team in my opinion which to some aint squat....be i think Dallas becomes formidable this year if we can stay healthy..what say you?

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:

Yes! You non exclusive tag him to see what other teams offer. Not having any bids from opposition was a dumb move by management. You don't let his agent set the price. You let the league set his price. I guarantee you, we could have signed him for less.

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Jerry could have treated Dak like he does other players. Let Dak test the market and come back to Dallas for more. You don't need the tag to do that. He obviously didn't want to take that risk.

Tagging him a second time has its problems too. What if Dak doesn't sign anything but the tag and just plays on that? That would be a waste.

MarcusRock said:

Was waiting for your Quadruple Quantum Plat that we were going to sign Dak but it happened anyway.

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i laying Quad Plat we win the East and make it to conference championship

ninja said:

No, I thought it was a good chance to change direction. Missed that opportunity. Might have to wait a few more years. I just think we needed a big dose of change and paying top dollar for mediocre will not get us anywhere. Too many eggs in one average basket.

Hopefully, I am wrong. We shall see.

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why change? why change the wrong side of the ball. the issue is not the offense. the issue has been the defense......so you think we should have just torn down the whole team and start from scratch?

and we paid market value for a top 10 QB....not according to the anti-Dak cult on this board....top 10 according to NFl front offices and the analysts (mostly former football players).

you are trying too too hard to make Dak average....your bitterness is coming across loud and clear.

CowboysFaninHouston said:

why change? why change the wrong side of the ball. the issue is not the offense. the issue has been the defense......so you think we should have just torn down the whole team and start from scratch?

and we paid market value for a top 10 QB....not according to the anti-Dak cult on this board....top 10 according to NFl front offices and the analysts (mostly former football players).

you are trying too too hard to make Dak average....your bitterness is coming across loud and clear.

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Dak has regressed every year since his rookie year. I don’t see a top talent. I like Dak as a player. I just don’t think he has what is needed to get a ring unless he is surrounded with talent which any average QB could do.

I also like change. Especially after 4 years of mediocrity.

Their problem, of course, came directly from waiting. Waiting to make Prescott an offer he couldn’t refuse immediately after the end of his third NFL season. Waiting to make Prescott an offer he couldn’t refuse during his fourth NFL season. Waiting to make Prescott an offer he couldn’t refuse before his $31.4 million franchise-tag salary for 2020 locked in.

The irony may be that, if they’d simply waited another week, the Cowboys may have been able to get Prescott for less than the massive contract they paid when the challenge was to get Prescott to take something other than $37.68 million in 2021 under the tag and, most likely, a shot at free agency in 2022.

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"They should have signed him 1, 2, or 3 years ago......or just next week"

Cause that's how negotiations always work out.

CowboysFaninHouston said:

why change? why change the wrong side of the ball. the issue is not the offense. the issue has been the defense......so you think we should have just torn down the whole team and start from scratch?

and we paid market value for a top 10 QB....not according to the anti-Dak cult on this board....top 10 according to NFl front offices and the analysts (mostly former football players).

you are trying too too hard to make Dak average....your bitterness is coming across loud and clear.

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well the 10th rated qb should get closer to 1oth rated money because 10th rated qb but in my estimation maybe 30th bets player..ef the market talk daks way overpaid..

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:

Yes! You non exclusive tag him to see what other teams offer. Not having any bids from opposition was a dumb move by management. You don't let his agent set the price. You let the league set his price. I guarantee you, we could have signed him for less.

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yep. Ive said this 1k times.

ABQCOWBOY said:

This is not true. There is also the possibility of signing a deal that is more equitable. In addition, he wouldn't have gotten to Free Agency the next year. He would have still had another year, and really, another two years, of team control.

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My mistake you meant the first tag. I mean anything is possible. I'm just giving my opinion of what is likely to happen. I don't think Dak was signing below his number for the Cowboys or any other team. Imo Dak always felt like two (or three) tags and then hitting free agency was a win so it would take a good deal for him to forego that. So he either gets a deal he likes or plays on the tag.

Future said:

Because it doesn't have any influence on future performance. It happened, it will heal, move on.

I'd be concerned if he wasn't running and it was August. It's March and he's working out. He'll be fine. You act like he's in a wheelchair.

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I'm still trying to figure out where the "He can't even run" stuff came from.. How does anyone who is not at the practice facility have this information? From the looks of the workout video the Cowboys put up the things he IS doing put way more strain on the ankle than just running in a straight line. He's training to play football not the Olympic 100 meters..

DeaconMoss said:

yep. Ive said this 1k times.

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Then you have been wrong 1k times. The WORST case scenario for Dak was going to be the 37.7 million dollar franchise tag. The ONLY way the Cowboys get a lower cap number is to sign him or release him. They were never going to get him for less salary than the tag. If they dug in on a number below that Dak would have sat out on principle at which point the situation would have become unsalvageable. There was ZERO motivation for Dak to accept a number below the tag. He has been doing the Cowboys a favor playing for 1/20th his market value for four years and their reward for his being a good soldier is "here keep taking less than your market value?" Good luck with that.. I don't think some of you people understand the concept of principle and conviction.

Swagger said:

Well I wouldn't have paid over $125 million in guaranteed money to any QB recovering from this type of injury. Brady and Rodgers possibly exceptions to the rule as they are on a different level and worth the risk. But I'm not throwing the franchise under the bus for anyone else until I have seen them perform in competitive games. Rehab is great but what happens when a 20 stone man falls on his foot

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You mean the ankle that will be protected by a kevlar brace and is fortified by titanium rods? If you mean that ankle then my response would be "absolutely nothing. "

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:

Yes! You non exclusive tag him to see what other teams offer. Not having any bids from opposition was a dumb move by management. You don't let his agent set the price. You let the league set his price. I guarantee you, we could have signed him for less.

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So let the most desperate QB team in the NFL throw some 45 million dollar offer out there so you have to match it?

Where do you people come up with this stuff? Why would you want a bidding war? Unreal the things you read on here.

CowboyRoy said:

So let the most desperate QB team in the NFL throw some 45 million dollar offer out there so you have to match it?

Where do you people come up with this stuff? Why would you want a bidding war? Unreal the things you read on here.

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That team would have to out bid everyone and give up two first rounds picks in the process.

Having two first round picks in both this years draft and next years draft, would have been sweet. Especially when we could potentially have had over 40 million in cap space available.

It would have been a gamble, but the payoff would have been just as sweet.

RonnieT24 said:

I'm still trying to figure out where the "He can't even run" stuff came from.. How does anyone who is not at the practice facility have this information? From the looks of the workout video the Cowboys put up the things he IS doing put way more strain on the ankle than just running in a straight line. He's training to play football not the Olympic 100 meters..

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The only people who think the injury matters didn't want to sign him anyway, so they just say things like that.

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:

That team would have to out bid everyone and give up two first rounds picks in the process.

Having two first round picks in both this years draft and next years draft, would have been sweet. Especially when we could potentially have had over 40 million in cap space available.

It would have been a gamble, but the payoff would have been just as sweet.

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What payoff is that? Who is going to play QB? Dalton?

What if those two first rounders are late in the first round? All your going to do is start spending those picks on finding a new QB. Maybe a bunch of them to trade up.

There is NO gamble with Dak. None at all. Top 7 QB in his prime.

Most likely it would be the Commanders and they would be instant SB favorites for the next 5-8 years.