Are the Cowboys just a better defense away from being contenders?

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I certainly wouldn’t describe it as GOAT. I’m trying to recall anyone touting as such. Anyone credible .

Remember he put those numbers up early in those losses against playoff teams.

I don’t think anyone really cares what you buy into. But I’d argue on a Cowboys fan forum if you want any credibility you might consider providing a different approach . Unless of course you enjoy coming off like a Troll.

“Playoff teams”.

It wasn’t the playoffs in September and those teams were awful against the pass and Dak threw a lot of passes on those “playoff teams.”

Dallas almost made the playoffs.. Imagine anyone bragging about all they did against our defense and generalizing it as a “playoff team”.

Seattle, Cleveland, and Atlanta were awful at defending the pass last season and Dak threw a TON of times against those awful pass defenses or as you like to call them “playoff teams” like that makes their pass defense worth a crap.

It was an optimal situation for big yardage.

“I dont think anyone really cares what you think”

You’ve spent a lot of time in this thread calling me a tough guy behind a keyboard and everything else to not care about my opinion.. I mean.. You got super upset because I posted some things about QBs who hog cap space not winning Super Bowls which is just common NFL knowledge at this point.

My approach is fine.. It’s you that is crying.. You might want to find another approach.
 
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Why do you always argue the negative side? Are you that miserable?

I don’t but I guess I’m more negative because there is a lot to be negative about.

I hate how the team is built.. I don’t think we did a good job with our coaching hire.

On top of all of that.. They never do anything in the post season and we locked down a roster of players that have proven they can’t do the job and our yearly upgrades our 20 and 21 year old rookies.

When Dallas gives me a reason to believe I’ll start to believe. 2014 I was on here Pom poming. 2016 as well and in 2018 I was believing in them even though I knew the coach put us at a huge disadvantage every Sunday.
 

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Will people please give the "average" defense thing a rest?

The last 9 SB winners were top 10 in scoring offense AND scoring defense - not average. The same is true of all 5 Cowboys SB winners.

If you want to lose in the playoffs, "average" will get that done. If you want another Lombardi, "average" is merely a step in the right direction.


By scoring to you mean defense actually scoring points or keeping points off the board?

In 2018 I believe it was.. Maybe it was 16.. We had one of the better defenses in points allowed.. Everyone still whined about the defense.
 

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The offense was turning the ball over and helping the defense lose games when Dak was healthy, so the offense has some improving to do also...they carry some blame too.

Injuries, I don't want to hear it. Y'all act like nobody is supposed to get hurt. Every team has injuries it's not an excuse to me. That's why you build a team with depth, and that's the on Stephen.

Cowboys just aren't a good team right, if you look at it without these annual excuses. This team can't even consistently get to the Playoffs.


Dallas feasts on weak opponents and inflates a lot of their numbers.

We were at our best when the OLine was bull dozing teams and we held time of possession.

The more we have put the game in Dak’s hands the more mediocre we have become.

I don’t want to be a run team but I think with Dak as your QB you should rely more on Zeke’s talent than Dak’s ability to out duel similar teams to ours with Great QBs.

I think the team we compare to right now is the Browns but we are a worse version of them.
 

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Dallas feasts on weak opponents and inflates a lot of their numbers.

We were at our best when the OLine was bull dozing teams and we held time of possession.

The more we have put the game in Dak’s hands the more mediocre we have become.

I don’t want to be a run team but I think with Dak as your QB you should rely more on Zeke’s talent than Dak’s ability to out duel similar teams to ours with Great QBs.

I think the team we compare to right now is the Browns but we are a worse version of them.
I agree, but this team has invested so much in weapons for Dak they can't go back now. Also, the league is trending towards pass, and KM is tilted toward the pass.

I would like for them to be more efficient, effective running the ball, so the play action passes can be lethal. Lastly, running the ball can help the OL and keep the QB from running for his life.
 

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I agree, but this team has invested so much in weapons for Dak they can't go back now. Also, the league is trending towards pass, and KM is tilted toward the pass.

I would like for them to be more efficient, effective running the ball, so the play action passes can be lethal. Lastly, running the ball can help the OL and keep the QB from running for his life.

Yeah I don’t want to be a running team but I think with the QB we have that is our best chance at success.

Our QB is interested in throwing to wide open players, not turning it over, and not trying to make something happen until he just has to.
 

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“Playoff teams”.

It wasn’t the playoffs in September and those teams were awful against the pass and Dak threw a lot of passes on those “playoff teams.”

Dallas almost made the playoffs.. Imagine anyone bragging about all they did against our defense and generalizing it as a “playoff team”.

Seattle, Cleveland, and Atlanta were awful at defending the pass last season and Dak threw a TON of times against those awful pass defenses or as you like to call them “playoff teams” like that makes their pass defense worth a crap.

It was an optimal situation for big yardage.

“I dont think anyone really cares what you think”

You’ve spent a lot of time in this thread calling me a tough guy behind a keyboard and everything else to not care about my opinion.. I mean.. You got super upset because I posted some things about QBs who hog cap space not winning Super Bowls which is just common NFL knowledge at this point.

My approach is fine.. It’s you that is crying.. You might want to find another approach.
Like I said initially, I’ve only addressed you cause it’s my thread. Normally I would have ignored.

And I wasn’t upset , I just called the way you presented Brady being the only QB after Rookie contract “consistently winning “ as incorrect.

And it’s interesting how on some fronts Trolls use playoff teams as a measurement but I guess it doesn’t fit your spin in this capacity .

Hey, you come off like Dak troll. It is what is. That’s you’re profile . You’ll have to live with it. And that’s fine. There’s plenty on this site. Have fun. Just not in my threads.
 

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Dallas feasts on weak opponents and inflates a lot of their numbers.

We were at our best when the OLine was bull dozing teams and we held time of possession.

The more we have put the game in Dak’s hands the more mediocre we have become.

I don’t want to be a run team but I think with Dak as your QB you should rely more on Zeke’s talent than Dak’s ability to out duel similar teams to ours with Great QBs.

I think the team we compare to right now is the Browns but we are a worse version of them.
Interesting you describe Dak “ as your QB”. He’s all Cowboy fans QB. This tells me you’re not a Cowboy fan.
 

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Like I said initially, I’ve only addressed you cause it’s my thread. Normally I would have ignored.

And I wasn’t upset , I just called the way you presented Brady being the only QB after Rookie contract “consistently winning “ as incorrect.

And it’s interesting how on some fronts Trolls use playoff teams as a measurement but I guess it doesn’t fit your spin in this capacity .

Hey, you come off like Dak troll. It is what is. That’s you’re profile . You’ll have to live with it. And that’s fine. There’s plenty on this site. Have fun. Just not in my threads.


Just like how you confused everyone with saying “contender”. Most people think in terms of Super Bowl.

When I said consistently winning I think you may be the only person who took it as not consistently winning championships considering the subject was QBs winning championships.
 

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Actually they were slightly better at winning with Dalton.
Winning is a stat that is ignored when discussing Dak. His record against decent defenses is another touchy subject. Winning is overshadowed by those great stats that are accumulated during the games that are already out of reach.
 

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Just like how you confused everyone with saying “contender”. Most people think in terms of Super Bowl.

When I said consistently winning I think you may be the only person who took it as not consistently winning championships considering the subject was QBs winning championships.
Even so, we all know Brady is the only QB in this era who’s been consistently winning Super Bowls.


That’s what Trolls do. They use a fact to spin their bull****.

Surely you don’t believe Brady is the only QB after Rookie contract to consistently win and contend ?
 

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Ok so you don’t think he can lead the team to the Super Bowl. Right?
What has Dak done that leads you to think he can lead the team to a Suer Bowl? What has he done against the better teams that he has faced?
 

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We had a top offense last year with Dak and have secured our franchise QB and multiple weapons with a proven OL if it can stay healthy .

But what must improve is a defense which was statistically one of the worst in our franchise’s history

How much better does our defense need to be for this team to become more of a contender ? Will average be enough assuming our offense is top 5? Your thoughts !!
I think we need a top defense to have any success. This offense isn't as good as many people think. They can't run the ball when they want to and struggle against the better defenses.
 

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We should make the playoffs by default.. The division is trash.

The NFC west and Tampa are the only decent teams out there. (If Rodgers leaves)
Winning the NFCE would not be much of an accomplishment. It would compare to being the best smelling turd in a toilet. Make no mistake, it would still be a turd.
 

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Winning the NFCE would not be much of an accomplishment. It would compare to being the best smelling turd in a toilet. Make no mistake, it would still be a turd.
I'm sure most teams would love to win their divisions. Didn't the NFC East win the Super Bowl just 3 years ago?
 

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Most critics would argue we were good enough to win division without the injuries.

Remember that those early 3 losses were all to playoff teams. Which we usually lose regardless of injury riddled or not.

But it also arguable that without the injuries we aren’t swept by Wash and possible win a couple more if not decimated by injuries. 8 wins would have been enough.
8 wins would have been enough for what? Winning the division under these circumstances is nothing to be proud of. It would really be an embarrassment.
 

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I'm sure most teams would love to win their divisions. Didn't the NFC East win the Super Bowl just 3 years ago?
Do you really think that any of the NFCE teams has a snowball’s chance in hell of reaching the Super Bowl last year? Do you think that any of the teams has a chance in the upcoming season? There has been a a lot of changes since that Super Bowl was won. None of those changes have improved the NFCE teams. It is the worst division in the league and the future is not looking good for the division either.
 

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I don’t but I guess I’m more negative because there is a lot to be negative about.

I hate how the team is built.. I don’t think we did a good job with our coaching hire.

On top of all of that.. They never do anything in the post season and we locked down a roster of players that have proven they can’t do the job and our yearly upgrades our 20 and 21 year old rookies.

When Dallas gives me a reason to believe I’ll start to believe. 2014 I was on here Pom poming. 2016 as well and in 2018 I was believing in them even though I knew the coach put us at a huge disadvantage every Sunday.
You hate everything who are you kidding. Can’t see the positive because of your internal hate which is eating you from the inside out.
 

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Yeah I don’t want to be a running team but I think with the QB we have that is our best chance at success.

Our QB is interested in throwing to wide open players, not turning it over, and not trying to make something happen until he just has to.
Lol
 
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