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starfan1 · Sep 17, 2021

Blackspider214 said:
Elliott immediately made this offense better. He was on his way to having another monster season in 2017 and we were the hottest team in the league and the suspension finally kicked in. If we actually had a coach worth a nickel in 2016 and used him effectively in the playoff game, we are in the Super Bowl at a minimum. Maybe we win, maybe we don't. But with how they designed this offense, we needed a bell cow game changer and Zeke was 100% that and delivered right away.

We could have had all you say with Ramsey and Henry later. Instead we got Elliott and jaylon Dallas loses.

the reason Elliott was so good was the 5 in the front as they have gotten worse so has he.

well that and over use

G2 · Sep 17, 2021

JG is sabotaging for the HC spot.

DuncanIso · Sep 17, 2021

Hadenough said:
That game was a real battle. Hard fought game that either team could of won. I was impressed that the Giants were able to score that many points on the WFT defense and I was also impressed the WFT was able to win with a QB that is basically a back up. I saw both QBs make some really good throws under pressure into tight windows. Neither of these teams is a gimme for the Eagles or Cowboys. This division will be tight to the end.

Giants are 0-2 now.

basically out of the playoffs.

will be interesting to see if JasonG gets the HC job.

Ranched · Sep 17, 2021

The legacy of the Clipboard Clapper continues!

Hadenough · Sep 17, 2021

DuncanIso said:
Giants are 0-2 now.

basically out of the playoffs.

will be interesting to see if JasonG gets the HC job.

Jason Garrett would probably get fired too. That offense is just too predictable.

Mk2_Cowboys · Sep 17, 2021

BoysfaninVegas said:
I don't think anybody is calling him wonder boy and the Skins will most likely continue to suck, but a bad team with something to rally behind is dangerous and a cause for concern.

The biggest cause of concern for the cowboys is Jerry Jones.

Rockport · Sep 17, 2021

rocyaice said:
Because Romo got hurt……just like Fitzpatrick got hurt……just admit you goofed and move on.

You can't have a debate with this guy. If you prove him wrong, he just moves the goal posts.

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 17, 2021

Blake said:
Dak was not a career backup. He was just like any other rookie who earns the right to be called the starting QB. Dak put Romo out of the job because he was the starter from day one and never relinquished his role.

Taylor Henieke isn't a "Career backup" either.....and honestly he looks better than Fitzpatirck based on what i've seen.

Rockport said:
You can't have a debate with this guy. If you prove him wrong, he just moves the goal posts.

So tiresome...like just own up you messed up and move on its not that big of a deal....

darthseinfeld said:
Dude just holds the ball way too long. A couple sacks he took early in the game killed them. Especially that one that took them out of FG range.

Problem for NY is, its hard to coach out of someone

Yeah you're right about that. Hard to get behind him. I can't see making that type of guy my franchise QB and it doesn't really seem like he's getting better.

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 17, 2021

KJJ said:
Fitzpatrick got hurt during the regular season. Romo got hurt in preseason. Dak started from day one and he’s never relinquish the job. You goofed but you just like to argue.

How did I goof? You're over here pushing goal posts and qualification on what a "backup" is. All for the sake of looking right. Its corny.

darthseinfeld · Sep 17, 2021

rocyaice said:
Yeah you're right about that. Hard to get behind him. I can't see making that type of guy my franchise QB and it doesn't really seem like he's getting better.

Bledsoe did it his whole career, and its probably the main reason why he was never a HOF caliber guy. He derailed alot of teams with pointless sacks and fumbles. He at least had the talent to make up for it. Jones does not.

KJJ · Sep 17, 2021

rocyaice said:
How did I goof? You're over here pushing goal posts and qualification on what a "backup" is. All for the sake of looking right. Its corny.

When Brady came in for Drew Bledsoe and led New England to a championship no one ever says a backup QB led New England to a championship that year. That’s because Brady never relinquished the starting job. The same with Kurt Warner when he led the Rams to a championship. He started as the backup in preseason but never relinquished his starting job when he took over for Trent Green. When the Cowboys announced that Dak would remain the starter in 2016 despite Romo being healthy and when Romo held his press conference relinquishing his starting job, Dak became the official starting QB. Do you count the wins the Cowboys had after that during that season as backup QB wins or starting QB wins?

Rockport · Sep 17, 2021

KJJ said:
When Brady came in for Drew Bledsoe and led New England to a championship no one ever says a backup QB led New England to a championship that year. That’s because Brady never relinquished the starting job. The same with Kurt Warner when he led the Rams to a championship. He started as the backup in preseason but never relinquished his starting job when he took over for Trent Green. When the Cowboys announced that Dak would remain the starter in 2016 despite Romo being healthy and when Romo held his press conference relinquishing his starting job, Dak became the official starting QB. Do you count the wins the Cowboys had after that during that season as backup QB wins or starting QB wins?

Dak was a 3rd string backup in 2016.

KJJ · Sep 17, 2021

Rockport said:
Dak was a 3rd string backup in 2016.

Right, and injuries moved him to the starting position and he never relinquished the job. He became the official starter around mid season when it was announced by the team that he would remain the starter. Romo held a press conference relinquishing his starting job and saying it was Dak’s team. Once the team announced that Dak would remain the starter Romo was done.

Vegas_Cowboy · Sep 17, 2021

Mk2_Cowboys said:
The biggest cause of concern for the cowboys is Jerry Jones.

I've been saying that for years but have been told that we can't do anything about Jerry so there's no point in discussing it.

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 17, 2021

KJJ said:
When Brady came in for Drew Bledsoe and led New England to a championship no one ever says a backup QB led New England to a championship that year. That’s because Brady never relinquished the starting job. The same with Kurt Warner when he led the Rams to a championship. He started as the backup in preseason but never relinquished his starting job when he took over for Trent Green. When the Cowboys announced that Dak would remain the starter in 2016 despite Romo being healthy and when Romo held his press conference relinquishing his starting job, Dak became the official starting QB. Do you count the wins the Cowboys had after that during that season as backup QB wins or starting QB wins?

Ok so then your whole point about the Commanders winning with a backup QB is incorrect then since Heneicke has played well and looks like the future of the Commanders QB? What you're saying just doesn't make sense. If you want to bring up the point that Dak ended up being the starter so he doesn't count.....ok. But then you'd have to say the same thing about Heniecke.

KJJ · Sep 17, 2021

rocyaice said:
Ok so then your whole point about the Football Team winning with a backup QB is incorrect then since Heneicke has played well and looks like the future of the Football Team QB? What you're saying just doesn't make sense. If you want to bring up the point that Dak ended up being the starter so he doesn't count.....ok. But then you'd have to say the same thing about Heniecke.

What I say never makes sense to you. This is why you argue with me all the time on various topics. No way is Taylor Heinicke the future of the Washington football team. He’ll never end up their franchise QB. He played well but he also had a key turnover that should have cost them the game but they got lucky. Washington will eventually end up having to use yet another first round pick on a QB.

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 17, 2021

KJJ said:
What I say never makes sense to you. This is why you argue with me all the time on various topics. No way is Taylor Heinicke the future of the Washington football team. He played well but he also had a key turnover that should have cost them the game but they got lucky. Washington will eventually end up having to use yet another first round pick on a QB.

Have you followed Heinicke's career? He's put together 3 solid performances for a young QB. The trajectory is pointing upward for him...he may be another Kirk Cousins.....I don't know. But what I do know is the Commanders are HIGH on him and they view him as more than a backup.

KJJ · Sep 17, 2021

rocyaice said:
Have you followed Heinicke's career? He's put together 3 solid performances for a young QB. The trajectory is pointing upward for him...he may be another Kirk Cousins.....I don't know. But what I do know is the Football Team are HIGH on him and they view him as more than a backup.

I followed Taylor Heinicke’s career enough to know he’s a journeyman who was undrafted in 2015. He was signed by Minnesota and didn’t last long there. New England picked him up in 2017 and he was released a month later. He was then signed by Houston in 2017 and Carolina in 2018. Washington is the fifth team that’s taken a look at him since 2015. He’s been bouncing around for six years. If Washington thought that much of him they wouldn’t have signed Ryan Fitzpatrick to be their starter. Taylor Heinicke is nothing more than a bandaid until Washington finds a franchise QB. You honestly believe Washington’s two decade long search for a franchise QB has ended with Taylor Heinicke? Lol

DasTex · Sep 17, 2021

Blake said:
The tape don’t lie

You saying he was offsides? The center lifted the ball up...the movement occurred.

What I want to know is why did the flag come after the kick was missed. There is a shot where the players are watching the ball, celebrating the miss and then ref throws flag. It is SOO late.

Rockport · Sep 17, 2021

KJJ said:
Right, and injuries moved him to the starting position and he never relinquished the job. He became the official starter around mid season when it was announced by the team that he would remain the starter. Romo held a press conference relinquishing his starting job and saying it was Dak’s team. Once the team announced that Dak would remain the starter Romo was done.

Finally you admit he was a backup. That wasn’t that hard was it?

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