Put Justin Herbert under the same microscope you put Dak under

JD_KaPow · Sep 17, 2021

Doomsday101 said:
Not really Dak gets called out by his critics constantly, I don't see them say the Cowboys, no it is constantly directed at DAK lost, Dak did not win can't beat a winning team.

Again I like Justin Herbert my comments are directed to the critics to put Herbert under the same microscope they put Dak.

How about we don't put either player under a microscope when we agree that microscope is stupid? We don't have to get sucked into that game.

QBs don't win or lose games, teams do. QBs are the most important individual players, but heck, they aren't even on the field for half the game.

The Chargers offense vs. the Cowboys defense looks like a pretty bad mismatch, given the personnel (all of them) who will be on the field Sunday.
The Cowboys offense vs. the Chargers defense looks like a little bit less of a mismatch, given the personnel who will be on the field.
It's also our second straight road game, which isn't great.
That's why I'm picking the Chargers, not because I think Herbert is better than Dak. But the game could certainly go either way. A 3-point spread seems about right.

Mannix · Sep 17, 2021

-----Herbert is not better than Dak. The chargers may be a better team than the Cowboys.

WoW.....really??? There isn't a GM in the league (Booger excluded for reasons of pride) who wouldn't take Herbert over Dak right now.

Ranched · Sep 17, 2021

Because Herbert isn't the Cowboys quarterback! Turn the tables & the haters would have Dak higher than Brady. It's their way of thinking.

Stash · Sep 17, 2021

Doomsday101 said:
lets say after a long off season listening to the BS I figure it was time to dish some out. lol

MountaineerCowboy · Sep 17, 2021

Mannix said:
-----Herbert is not better than Dak. The chargers may be a better team than the Cowboys.

WoW.....really??? There isn't a GM in the league (Booger excluded for reasons of pride) who wouldn't take Herbert over Dak right now.

Herbert is basically already where Dak is but it's not taken him 5 years in the league to get there. He came into the league there. That's why he was a top draft pick. He's better than most would have thought he would be.

Both guys can easily be considered top 10 QBs in the league.

DeaconMoss · Sep 17, 2021

Doomsday101 said:
First let me say I think Justin Herbert is a good young QB who should continue to learn and develop yet if you put him under the same microscope as Dak then it amazes me how Dak critics can be so high on Justin and acting like he is the 2nd coming of Tom Brady.

Fact is Herbert has never beaten a winning team his wins have been against the Jags, Jets, falcons, raiders, broncos and yes week 17 last year vs KC who did not play Mahomes or most of the starters and now he beat the Washington football team. Yet we are supposed to act as if Justin is some unbeatable QB? looks to be he has been beat many times himself and in Dallas would likely be mocked and attacked constantly

Cowboys did have their struggle on defense this past game vs Tampa and Brady a team who avg 30 points a game last season and won the SB to boot. Justin is not Brady and LA Chargers are not Tampa. Cowboys have a good chance of winning this game.

When Dallas loses again this week the story will be the same. Herbert > Dak

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 17, 2021

JBS said:
Herbert is not better than Dak. The chargers may be a better team than the Cowboys.

That's a realization that we may have to come to grips with.

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 17, 2021

Mannix said:
-----Herbert is not better than Dak. The chargers may be a better team than the Cowboys.

WoW.....really??? There isn't a GM in the league (Booger excluded for reasons of pride) who wouldn't take Herbert over Dak right now.

Probably because of age. I'd take Herbert over Dak but that doesn't mean he's better than him.

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 17, 2021

DeaconMoss said:
When Dallas loses again this week the story will be the same. Herbert > Dak

Herbert beats up bad teams and he's the goat huh lol? At the end of the day Chargers are a better team than Dallas and they are at home. Its going to be a uphill battle most Sundays if this defense can't get stops or get off the field on 3rd down.

RoboQB · Sep 17, 2021

Aerolithe_Lion said:
At 4300 yards, 31 TDs and 10 INTs, Justin Herbert’s rookie season is already the greatest statistic season a Charger has ever had.

Couple that with the fact that it wasn’t even a full year (Tyrod Taylor opened as their starter), and it would be a bit of a disappointment if he didn’t finish 2021 entrenched as a top 10 QB in the NFL.

That’s my Dak microscope on Justin Herbert. Week 2 opponent is a legit gunslinger.

The greatest statistical season in Charger history belongs to Dan Fouts.
He threw for over 4800 yards and 33 TDs in 1981.

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 17, 2021

RoboQB said:
The greatest statistical season in Charger history belongs to Dan Fouts.
He threw for over 4800 yards and 33 TDs in 1981.

In that era too? Yeah i'd probably have to say Fouts had a better year.

RoboQB · Sep 17, 2021

rocyaice said:
In that era too? Yeah i'd probably have to say Fouts had a better year.

The Chargers offense was fun to watch in those days.
It was called "Air Coryell" after their coach.

John Jefferson
Charlie Joiner (later replaced by Wes Chandler)
Kellen Winslow
Chuck Muncie at RB

But their defense sucked. Sounds familiar.

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 17, 2021

RoboQB said:
The Chargers offense was fun to watch in those days.
It was called "Air Coryell" after their coach.

John Jefferson
Charlie Joiner (later replaced by Wes Chandler)
Kellen Winslow
Chuck Muncie at RB

But their defense sucked. Sounds familiar.

Ahhh Kellen senior was apart of that group....nice.
And yeah...sounds eerily similar.

JD_KaPow · Sep 17, 2021

Mannix said:
-----Herbert is not better than Dak. The chargers may be a better team than the Cowboys.

WoW.....really??? There isn't a GM in the league (Booger excluded for reasons of pride) who wouldn't take Herbert over Dak right now.

That's probably true, but it's because of age and contract status.

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 17, 2021

JD_KaPow said:
That's probably true, but it's because of age and contract status.

Yeah I mean who wouldn't take the younger cheaper QB?

RoboQB · Sep 17, 2021

rocyaice said:
Ahhh Kellen senior was apart of that group....nice.
And yeah...sounds eerily similar.

If you're interested, look up Chargers vs. Miami playoff game.
I think it went into double overtime. Winslow blocked a GW FG attempt.
It was a great game!

Mannix · Sep 17, 2021

rocyaice said:
That's a realization that we may have to come to grips with.

I've come to grips that most teams are better than us for over 25 years now.

JD_KaPow · Sep 17, 2021

rocyaice said:
Yeah I mean who wouldn't take the younger cheaper QB?

Well, Ben DiNucci is also younger and cheaper than Dak, so there are limits...

JD_KaPow · Sep 17, 2021

Mannix said:
I've come to grips that most teams are better than us for over 25 years now.

Dallas is a .520 team over that period, so not MOST teams. If that makes you feel better...

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 17, 2021

Mannix said:
I've come to grips that most teams are better than us for over 25 years now.

I'd probably say 2007, 2014 and 2016 were the exclusions......especially 2014........

Put Justin Herbert under the same microscope you put Dak under

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