More 1 Year Deals

Coogiguy03 said:

What if teams around the NFL could just sign top players to 1 year Deals??? We harp so much on what players are making, and how they're not living up to the amount of money they are costing the team.

Instead of having a long term commitment, why not 1 year deals, that way if their play isn't up to par, there's no long term attachment!! Your thoughts....

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3 problems
Most good players won’t sign a one year deal
If he plays good then anyone else can sign him
It’s very hard to manage the cap on one year deals
All the money counts that year so a high paid player counts so much each year it gets impossible to manage

zrinkill said:

But it's okay for Jerry Jones to make billions of dollars off the Cowboys

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Absolutely! Just like it is for any owner/owners of any complany to make billions, You don't have to work for them if you have some problem with how much they make. Get another job, but you find the same situation no matte where ya work.

How much do you make compared to the owner?

daboyzruleperiod said:

What the NFL should do is pay on a player's performance & not a dime before hand!

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Agreed

daboyzruleperiod said:

What the NFL should do is pay on a player's performance & not a dime before hand!

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well, NFL is kind of that way....they pay bonuses and its limited to specific percentage of total value and then they do gaurantee money....its called free market, contracts between two parties based on what they think the services are worth....its a business transaction....so if you don't want to pay a dime up front, great, some other team comes by and says, hey, I pay you gaurantee money and bonus....what do ya say!?....so that's how it starts.....

and NFL is injury prone, and players want some type of gaurantee for their services because their careers can end at any minute...

NBA is fully gauranteed. so is Baseball, but they get the players for a while longer at rookie contracts before they hit FA

RaZon said:

Absolutely! Just like it is for any owner/owners of any complany to make billions, You don't have to work for them if you have some problem with how much they make. Get another job, but you find the same situation no matte where ya work.

How much do you make compared to the owner?

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It's me
And I guarantee that there is not an owner in the league that pays the players more than what they can make off of them.
Which makes me wonder why morons are complaining about how much players make

CowboysFaninHouston said:

that's what it is today....the rookie money is slotted by where they are picked...and there is a rookie cap....first rounders get 4 year deals because owners want to hold on to the first rounder longer...

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Four year deals are not three year deals.

RaZon said:

I was in the insurance business, it worked like this....37% off the first sell then 15% on renewals. It didn't matter what the company made, if that were a problem then do something else. All these companies have a system if it isn't for you find one that is. How much owners makes has nothing at all to do with the players, you don't have to be there.

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you must be new to football.

zrinkill said:

It's me

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How much do you make compared to the owner?

CowboyRoy said:

I am all for reasonable pay for services. What they do simply isnt worth what they are getting and its only getting worse.

Have you ever owned a successful company? From the sound of it, probably not. It doenst work when the employees are running things.

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The players get a percentage of revenue
How you distribute that money is up to the team just like it is with any employer
Teams give more to players who they think can help them win just like any corporation gives more to employees they think can make them more money
The system is not really the problem
The problem is when you distribute that money to the wrong player and right or wrong player is very debatable

Coogiguy03 said:

What if teams around the NFL could just sign top players to 1 year Deals???

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What benefit would there be to the players?

CowboysFaninHouston said:

you must be new to football.

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Dude, when I got into the NFL players made a tiny fraction of what they do today, and were thrilled. The whole thing has gotten stupid.

RaZon said:

What doesn't make sense is thinking Walmart/Target/McDonalds/Dodge/Burger King etc employees care about how much the company makes, what difference does it make they make a wage.

The NFL could pay these guys half of what they do now, ya don't like it do something else.

Less than 1% of college football players make it to the NFL these guys need to thank God they made it and cool worrying about $$$$$$. All of them making far more than dad ever made.

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well, the employees do care....the difference is anyone can flip a burger or take your order. so its easy to replace those employees. doesn't require much skills. NFL is highly specialized skill set. and there is a limited pool of that talent. look at the JAGs and they have the best college players selected and yet the product on the field sucks. other football leagues tried and failed, they didn't have enough of the right talent to compete with quality of NFL....

and that's why they had CBA agreement.....the owners make ton of money from the players too. the players actually threatned to go make their own league.....and had some financing behind it....so owners agreed to give certain percentage of the revenue as salary to the players. they also agreed there is salary cap and salary floor. to make sure all 32 teams spend money to put out a quality product..

I am getting a sense you are very new to football

conner01 said:

The players get a percentage of revenue
How you distribute that money is up to the team just like it is with any employer
Teams give more to players who they think can help them win just like any corporation gives more to employees they think can make them more money
The system is not really the problem
The problem is when you distribute that money to the wrong player and right or wrong player is very debatable

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No the system is definitely the problem. They shouldnt get a percentage, that is ridiculous. And we are seeing why its ridiculous.

But its the owners own fault the system is this way. They agreed to it.

The owners are stupid. Why do they even want to disclose publicly how much money they make? Only GB is a public company. The owners need to take back control before its too late.

RaZon said:

Not sure about one year but something different,

I would go with all rookies get a three year deal all making the same amount, done by rounds they were drafted. Then in year four ya bring in the agents and talk actual worth. But only three year deals. So players are constantly being evaluated.

If ya don't like that there is always the CFL or find a real job.

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Guess you’ve never took the time to read the CBA
What fans fail to see is what owners are making
The value of a team rises 10-14% a year
That’s an amazing return on investment
Everyone is making money and the CBA actually passes the money out pretty fairly
Good teams make good personnel decisions, bad teams don’t
The problem is not the cost of players but the failure of some teams to make good decisions

RaZon said:

Dude, when I got into the NFL players made a tiny fraction of what they do today, and were thrilled. The whole thing has gotten stupid.

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So now you're claiming to be an NFL player?

Jeebus

CowboyRoy said:

No the system is definitely the problem. They shouldnt get a percentage, that is ridiculous. And we are seeing why its ridiculous.

But its the owners own fault the system is this way. They agreed to it.

The owners are stupid. Why do they even want to disclose publicly how much money they make? Only GB is a public company. The owners need to take back control before its too late.

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Most teams don’t disclose how much they make
The amount from the league is disclosed but few teams disclose what they really make
But there is no league without the players and to me a fair split of revenue is a fair system for everyone
And no player is getting as rich as the owners are
So everyone is making good money for their part

RaZon said:

I am obviously talking about if they decided to change the way things are done in the NFL not how it currently is. Yes as is I agree with you,

Dramatic changes is what needs to happen, and it could. Remember pre free agency? Pre instant replay? There was a time they had 12 game seasons, 14 rounds in the draft, so dramatic changes can happen.

This paying anyone 40 million to play football is ridiculous.

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dramatic changes did happen. thats why the owners and player union sat around the table and came to an agreement. Owners didn't want a run away salary (specially by a few big market teams) or similar to baseball or basketball. so they agreed to give certain percentage of revenue to the players and that's the annual salary cap (this year I believe its 198 million). so each team can spend 198M in salary on their players each year...that assures owners of a large percentage of the profits and assures players get money for their services. then the money or salary is devided between the players in each team based on contract and percieved value of that player to the team.....

so times have changed....it had to...NFL makes over $8B per year and its about to get to the 10, 12, 14 range..... so its not the same business that it was before, thus it can't operate the same way.....

why is it ridiculous to pay someone 40M....the goal of each team is to win the superbowl...and each team gets exactly the same amount of money to spend and those who can put the best team together end up in the superbowl....

I think its actually a much better system than NBA or Baseball, where Alex Rodriguez got 10 year 500M contract. all gauranteed.

zrinkill said:

So now you're claiming to be an NFL player?

Jeebus

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No I;m not, so?????

conner01 said:

Most teams don’t disclose how much they make
The amount from the league is disclosed but few teams disclose what they really make
But there is no league without the players and to me a fair split of revenue is a fair system for everyone
And no player is getting as rich as the owners are
So everyone is making good money for their part

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The owners own the team, they take the risks, started all this. Players come and go. Its the teams we watch.

Im not worried about the players not playing. They have nothing else they can do most of them.

These guys don't deserve 40 million a year. Salaries have gotten ridiculous. Its taking away from the game and the love of the sport.

Coogiguy03 said:

Got you guys thinking I love it!!!

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Nobody is really thinking they are talking.

The proverb is ancient, a bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush..... the only players that take one year deals are guys that need a year to prove it or they have made enough money to chase a ring.