Has the league admitted screwing up by not reviewing Dak's TD?

Jipper · Oct 23, 2021

Irvin88_4life said:
It's happened twice this season where Dak clearly was in and they called him short. Plus on the the one that was a fumble the ball touched the goal line before losing control....... so technically 3 but the fumble was close so i will say for sure 2 TDs taken

I agree the 3rd down was in but the video clearly showed he had the ball knocked free on 4th before it was in...

Irvin88_4life · Oct 23, 2021

Jipper said:
I agree the 3rd down was in but the video clearly showed he had the ball knocked free on 4th before it was in...

He still had 2 hands on the ball and the 2nd defenders helmet knocks it out. It was close and a judgment call so im not so upset at that call though.

The eagles TD and 3rd down TD is what was clear as TDs

Jipper · Oct 23, 2021

Irvin88_4life said:
He still had 2 hands on the ball and the 2nd defenders helmet knocks it out. It was close and a judgment call so im not so upset at that call though.

The eagles TD and 3rd down TD is what was clear as TDs

He did not have possession of the ball it was clearly out, very indisputable hence why it was overturned...go back and watch the video....I'm not trying to be a jerk but you are wrong here as it was very clear on the video

Irvin88_4life · Oct 23, 2021

Jipper said:
He did not have possession of the ball it was clearly out, very indisputable hence why it was overturned...go back and watch the video....I'm not trying to be a jerk but you are wrong here as it was very clear on the video

It wasn't clear. He still had both hands on the ball after the first defender hit him. It forced his hands, and the ball, to his right where the 2nd defender knocked it completley out his hands.

The tip of the ball just has to touch the white line.

tunahelper · Oct 23, 2021

MarcusRock said:
That is exactly what Steratore said when I just re-watched the video. Just no clear shot of the ball. Plus, there's that pic I have of Dak's knee being down just outside the goal line as well which he pushed forward from after it was down. Just can't see where the ball is when the knee hits.

If there is no clean look then how did know the play was concluded? How did they know where the ball should be spotted?

The answer they didnt, so replay was required IMO.

Jipper · Oct 23, 2021

Irvin88_4life said:
It wasn't clear. He still had both hands on the ball after the first defender hit him. It forced his hands, and the ball, to his right where the 2nd defender knocked it completley out his hands.

The tip of the ball just has to touch the white line.

1st no need to belittle me, I know the rules

2nd you can keep arguing all you want but it was clear that he had lost possession of the ball and despite the fact he was touching with both hands, it was moving and out of his possession before touching the goal line.

go watch the video replay, it's absolutely clear that he lost possession before the goaline...which it was a clear overturn

The facts are what they are, clear loss of possession and clear fumble hence clear overturn

Jipper · Oct 23, 2021

tunahelper said:
If there is no clean look then how did know the play was concluded? How did they know where the ball should be spotted?

The answer they didnt, so replay was required IMO.

Agreed and it was dumb they didn't look at the 3rd down play

Screw The Hall · Oct 23, 2021

Runwildboys said:
I haven't seen a thread on this, so either there are too many threads or they haven't admitted their mistake. I'm watching the game again right now, and the more I see that play, the more incredulous I become that they didn't call it a TD in the first place, but to not even review it was just pathetic.

Yeah, you can’t make a good excuse for why that play wasn’t reviewed. Complete and utter bullsh*t.

Just to be clear, I’m talking about 3rd down, I have no issue with the 4th down call.

DandyDon52 · Oct 23, 2021

Runwildboys said:
It never got reviewed, so they never officially called it a TD. Maybe one guy did and someone else said no, but it should've gone upstairs for review, where they would've seen that it was in fact a TD. In the scheme of things it doesn't matter because we won anyway, but someone should be held accountable.

there was no conclusive shot of the ball in endzone, no shot of when his knee was down etc.
It has to be conclusive.
I know dak got into endzone, but was he down before that ? no one knows.

you guys only watch cowboy games I guess, because I see this same stuff in other games, there is no ref bias, or goodell telling them to screw
the cowboys lol.
Dont forget the Cowboys are the nfl's best ratings draw, so they will do even better with winning record.
Goodell cares more about ratings than whether the cowboys win or lose.

PhillyCowboysFan · Oct 23, 2021

stasheroo said:
They called it a TD and then reversed it

Correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t believe they ever called it a TD.

PhillyCowboysFan · Oct 23, 2021

Runwildboys said:
I think it was an Eagles fan in Trolling the Nation who said the refs must've thought Dak was holding the ball in his ankles. lol

That was originally a tweet by a media member, I don’t remember who though.

cowboyed · Oct 23, 2021

MarcusRock said:
That is exactly what Steratore said when I just re-watched the video. Just no clear shot of the ball. Plus, there's that pic I have of Dak's knee being down just outside the goal line as well which he pushed forward from after it was down. Just can't see where the ball is when the knee hits.

At the very least then rules should change that a down during a touchdown attempt should be played over if they can't tell one way or the other.

CowboysFaninHouston · Oct 23, 2021

Runwildboys said:
I haven't seen a thread on this, so either there are too many threads or they haven't admitted their mistake. I'm watching the game again right now, and the more I see that play, the more incredulous I become that they didn't call it a TD in the first place, but to not even review it was just pathetic.

at that point, you can't even throw the red flag......so all the control is in Ref's hands...there has to be a rule change.....

rnr_honeybadger · Oct 23, 2021

They review TD plays. That play however was not called a TD. Hence no review. Definitely that rule needs to be looked at in the off-season.

Diehardblues · Oct 23, 2021

I thought they did review it . And they couldn’t see the ball whether it crossed or not .

Not enough evidence to over turn the call on the field .

From our view at home it looked like he got it. But the pile up never exposed seeing the ball crossed. Unfortunately it appears it was a bad call on the field but not enough visual evidence of the ball to overturn.

Runwildboys · Oct 23, 2021

DandyDon52 said:
there was no conclusive shot of the ball in endzone, no shot of when his knee was down etc.
It has to be conclusive.
I know dak got into endzone, but was he down before that ? no one knows.

you guys only watch cowboy games I guess, because I see this same stuff in other games, there is no ref bias, or goodell telling them to screw
the cowboys lol.
Dont forget the Cowboys are the nfl's best ratings draw, so they will do even better with winning record.
Goodell cares more about ratings than whether the cowboys win or lose.

I never claimed, nor do I believe there was any bias. But if you look at the video from earlier in this thread, it's pretty clear that he got in. Even if you can't actually see the ball, any part of him that could possibly hold it was over the line. At some point, common sense needs to prevail.

You can see the ball pretty clearly here, and they would've seen it too...if they had bothered looking.

Runwildboys · Oct 23, 2021

rnr_honeybadger said:
They review TD plays. That play however was not called a TD. Hence no review. Definitely that rule needs to be looked at in the off-season.

But inside of 2 minutes until the half, it's up to the league to review any questionable calls, and that was beyond questionable. There's no reason they shouldn't have called a time out and reviewed that.

Runwildboys · Oct 23, 2021

PhillyCowboysFan said:
Correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t believe they ever called it a TD.

If they did, it was just one guy who signaled TD and was immediately countered by someone else, but I don't remember even seeing that. But it definitely was never officially called a TD and reversed.

Diehardblues · Oct 23, 2021

Runwildboys said:
I never claimed, nor do I believe there was any bias. But if you look at the video from earlier in this thread, it's pretty clear that he got in. Even if you can't actually see the ball, any part of him that could possibly hold it was over the line. At some point, common sense needs to prevail.

The only problem with that is without visual evidence we don’t know if his knees might have touched the ground with contact before crossing .

It was a very unusual situation that the lack of absolute visual evidence prevented from overturning the call.

BourbonBalz · Oct 23, 2021

America's Cowboy said:
It was clearly a TD.

Anyone saying differently has an agenda.

It would actually be impossible for it not to be a TD. His entire upper torso was across the goal line.

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