***Mega Merge Dak is not a elite QB thread***

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ESisback

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So you really don't know what Ryan/Big Ben are dong this season?

Don't forget both have far more experience and accomplished more than Dak.

Put all three of them in the same situation I take Ryan/Big Ben/Dak

REALLY?!? I’m so surprised by your ranking! Think any of those players (or anyone besides you) cares even a little bit?
 

CowboyFrog

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Hell yes I can prove both Ryan and Big Ben are far more experienced and accomplished. Not a debate.

Dude, the age thing obviously in the favor of Dak, ya think. Will Dak have a career on a par with either Ryan/Big Ben, do doubt it.


No you cant prove they are playing better football than Dak..you can say it but all the facts say otherwise from stats to record..literally you cant prove they are playing better football....I'm not interested in your feels show me anything that proves they are playing better football this season than Dak or yield...
 

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Dude, all that stat has ever meant is you were losing a lot. Means nothing.

Dak has never had a season like Ryan has had, never had a season like Big Ben has had. Both have accomplished more than Dak.

I have no doubts both know far more about the game than Dak does.

First of all I’m talking about right now 2021! Plus, Dak will play football for another 10 years and the other 2 should’ve hung it up last year. How many QBs have won a Super Bowl 4 years into their career (last year doesn’t count - his ankle was snapped in half) and this year isn’t over. He could literally win a super bowl this year. The point is, who would you trade Dak for right now? And if you give me some crazy names you better be prepared to have a good reason.
 

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First of all I’m talking about right now 2021! Plus, Dak will play football for another 10 years and the other 2 should’ve hung it up last year. How many QBs have won a Super Bowl 4 years into their career (last year doesn’t count - his ankle was snapped in half) and this year isn’t over. He could literally win a super bowl this year. The point is, who would you trade Dak for right now? And if you give me some crazy names you better be prepared to have a good reason.

Right now today give me...

Russell Wilson
Patrick Mahomes
Josh Allen
Justin Herbert
Joe Burrow
Aaron Rodgers

Dak can no longer extend plays, not his fault but reality.
 

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Right now today give me...

Russell Wilson
Patrick Mahomes
Josh Allen
Justin Herbert
Joe Burrow
Aaron Rodgers

Dak can no longer extend plays, not his fault but reality.
Good list.. but I'd also take Lamar Jackson right now.

As to who I would take a punt on.. Mac Jones looks awesome. Like NFL ready awesome.. not this season but wow he looks good.
 

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Right now today give me...

Russell Wilson
Patrick Mahomes
Josh Allen
Justin Herbert
Joe Burrow
Aaron Rodgers

Dak can no longer extend plays, not his fault but reality.

Ok, so you have him ranked as the 3rd best QB in the NFC. I don’t know if I agree, I think Rodgers is a year away from retiring and Russel Wilson won’t even be in the playoffs (currently 3-7). So the only QB that has a chance to play Dak in the playoffs & is better than him (based on your list) is Aaron Rodgers. So if Dak is better than him just one game - that puts us in the super bowl vs. the Bills, Bengals, Chargers (we’ve beat them already), or the Chiefs (beat us at home by 10 with Tyron smith, Randy Gregory, Demarcus Lawrence, CeeDee lamb and Amari Cooper all out. Those players are worth way more than 10 points. I would love to play any of those teams for a chance to win the 6th ring.
 

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Ok, so you have him ranked as the 3rd best QB in the NFC. I don’t know if I agree, I think Rodgers is a year away from retiring and Russel Wilson won’t even be in the playoffs (currently 3-7). So the only QB that has a chance to play Dak in the playoffs & is better than him (based on your list) is Aaron Rodgers. So if Dak is better than him just one game - that puts us in the super bowl vs. the Bills, Bengals, Chargers (we’ve beat them already), or the Chiefs (beat us at home by 10 with Tyron smith, Randy Gregory, Demarcus Lawrence, CeeDee lamb and Amari Cooper all out. Those players are worth way more than 10 points. I would love to play any of those teams for a chance to win the 6th ring.

Russell Wilson is on a whole other level than Dak as is Rodgers, this is news to you? Dak is no Mahomes.

Herbert, Allen, Burrow all can hang with todays Dak.
 

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Russell Wilson is on a whole other level than Dak as is Rodgers, this is news to you? Dak is no Mahomes.

Herbert, Allen, Burrow all can hang with todays Dak.
lol I completely disagree.
 

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lol I completely disagree.

Compare Dak to Wilson for starters. Not really close if talking career, if talking right now today, put Wilson on Dallas and watch what happens.
 

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sorry this is not just a reaction to this game i have said it from a long time ago and i think my reason is correct so please respond to my reason and not just the title.

i believe a franchise qb have to be able to elevate the play of every one around him and dak does not do that at all. he is 100% relyant on every thing around him being perfect and all of the odd stacked in his favor.

here is the newsflash and scary thing. it will not get any better. it will get worse and harder now that dak will eat a huge chunk of cap. dak will have to be the one to do the heavy lifting and he have shown ZERO ability to do that.

that is my point and worry with dak....am i wrong? a franchise qb HAVE to be able to elevate every one around him and dak is the opposite.


I am going to assume you watched the last game or two. We are getting crushed with the slot blitz. first of all it is on the OC to make calls to counter that. We get away from the run too often once again on the OC. Our O line has NOT been good lately. Dak has made his share of mistakes but so has others.
 

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She came through, she brought food, she got ****ed, she knew what’s up.

No one will see this post.
 

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What has your Dak crush boy won in his 5 plus years? I’ll wait…..

There is no Dak crush lil guy!! But i know Dak is a damn good qb.

And let me ask you this..... if Dak isn't a damn good qb, how did he manage to put up numbers in his first five years that only four other qbs in NFL history was able to put up????



I'll wait.....
 

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sorry this is not just a reaction to this game i have said it from a long time ago and i think my reason is correct so please respond to my reason and not just the title.

i believe a franchise qb have to be able to elevate the play of every one around him and dak does not do that at all. he is 100% relyant on every thing around him being perfect and all of the odd stacked in his favor.

here is the newsflash and scary thing. it will not get any better. it will get worse and harder now that dak will eat a huge chunk of cap. dak will have to be the one to do the heavy lifting and he have shown ZERO ability to do that.

that is my point and worry with dak....am i wrong? a franchise qb HAVE to be able to elevate every one around him and dak is the opposite.
I dont disagree, but one thing you and many others seem to forget is the coaching.
dak doesnt make game plans or design the plays, or call the plays , or decide who is playing or what position they will play etc etc etc.

Dak doesnt handle heavy pressure well, so putting steele in a new position, and mcgovern in at LT, and keeping lael at rt , were not good decisions.
playing elliot hurt, over pollard, not good decision.
When KC got pressure early Dallas didnt go heavy run offense, which aikman pointed out they should have, again not good decisions.

I think it is not so much the OL that is bad, but the play/ blocking designs that allow guys to come in free , way too often.
elliot tackled in backfield by coming in free, next play dak is strip sacked by guy coming in free ! lol it is really amusing to me, and I see it with
other teams as well.

It all starts with good coaching, not the qb.
 

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There is no Dak crush lil guy!! But i know Dak is a damn good qb.

And let me ask you this..... if Dak isn't a damn good qb, how did he manage to put up numbers in his first five years that only four other qbs in NFL history was able to put up????



I'll wait.....
He is great at getting garbage time stats?? :p If stats could win a SB, he would already have a couple of rings.
But it isnt all daks fault, it is the HC and Kellens too.
 

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You seem to be one of the only folks who brings up Romo in every Dak thread. I for one straight up admitted to you that I was angry at Dak because Tony didn't get his job back when healthy or didn't have a chance to compete for the job the following year. I held that against Dak and wasn't afraid to say it.

It obviously wasn't Dak's fault, but fans do dumb things. Romo was the last Cowboy I will ever be emotionally invested in. I learned it's a dumb thing to do.

I was never a Dak "hater", once I got over the being mad at him, I warmed up to him during 2017. I thought he had warts but also I could see he was a hard worker. I really don't even know what elite means anymore in sports, but I do think you can win a Super Bowl with him.
Elite is just some word that fans and media alike use to....I guess to use as talking points. Because Eli has 2 rings and no one would ever call him elite.
 

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Thats because they are COWARDS like I've been saying!!! If you had a hater that could atleast admit when Dak ball out, then I would respect them. But to ONLY say weak negative $h!t when he losses or have a bad game, especially when he his hurried 27 times, sacked 5 times, and had 4 or 5 passes dropped.

Those type of cowards who overlooked things beyond Dak's responsibility are jokes and whimps. I love reading their posts and threads tho, because it reminds me of comics I used to read decades ago. Anyone who can come out to falsely accuse, but hide and can't give props when its due.... they're cowards and it pretty much let you know what type of person they are in real life. They're definitely entertaining tho!!
They run like the cockroaches they are....I just can't respect them.
 

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Truth hurts I guess.......
You're right, that's why your pal Rocky hasn't said a word since Sunday.

It's hard to name call and disrespect everyone that isn't sold on Dak when you get hit with a big dose of reality.

Hey, at least you show up after the bad performances. I give ya credit there.
 
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