Why couldn’t/didn’t NY buzz down to correct

glimmerman

glimmerman

Well-Known Member
Messages
30,041
Reaction score
29,902
Was a fumble. Dak would have screwed the pooch or won the game. We never got the chance to see but not the first time they do this..
 
  • Like
Reactions: CWR
Captain43Crash

Captain43Crash

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,321
Reaction score
7,578
MarcusRock said:
This play was outside of 2 minutes. We could have challenged if we had a timeout. We had none because we had to burn them being confused and stuff.
Click to expand...
That really is a dumb NFL rule. You should be able to challenge with or without timeouts. Many teams. See Tampa Bay, like to use their timeouts on defense before the 2 minute warning.
 

Sydla

Well-Known Member
Messages
60,115
Reaction score
91,952
MarcusRock said:
Here's the REAL review rule, not something someone tries to shoehorn into a reviewable play that isn't. Highlights in red.
RULE 15 INSTANT REPLAY
SECTION 1 INITIATING A REPLAY REVIEW
ARTICLE 2. REPLAY OFFICIAL REQUEST FOR REVIEW. Only the Replay Official or the Senior Vice President of Officiating
or his or her designee may initiate a review of a play:
(a) that begins after the two-minute warning of each half;
(b) throughout any overtime period;
(c) when points are scored by either team;
(d) that is a Try attempt (successful or unsuccessful); and
(e) when on-field officials rule:
(1) an interception by an opponent;
(2) a fumble or backward pass recovered by an opponent or that goes out of bounds through the opponent’s end zone;
(3) a scrimmage kick touched by the receiving team and recovered by the kicking team; or
(4) a disqualification of a player.​
Such plays may be reviewed regardless of whether a foul is committed on the play that, if accepted, would negate the on-field
ruling.
The Replay Official may only challenge a play until the next legal snap or kick. The Replay Official may consult with a
designated member of the Officiating department at the league office regarding whether to challenge a play.​
Click to expand...

Seems clear here but Article 9 adds confusion and doesn't appear to be well written.
 
MarcusRock

MarcusRock

Well-Known Member
Messages
13,903
Reaction score
16,202
Sydla said:
Seems clear here but Article 9 adds confusion and doesn't appear to be well written.
Click to expand...

Article 2 clearly states that the Replay Official initiates the review. Article 9 appears to be cases where the Officials need assistance to manage something in a game and is not initiated by the Replay Official. On this play, the refs ruled down by contact so they were not in need of assistance or clarification. If a team is in doubt, they can challenge which is why there's that wording at the end of Article 9. Confusing yes (just ask JBS), but it seems clear-ish to me.
 

DripTooHard

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,615
Reaction score
1,933
The ref marked the player down by contact with conviction though. I know I was convinced.
 

Sydla

Well-Known Member
Messages
60,115
Reaction score
91,952
MarcusRock said:
Article 2 clearly states that the Replay Official initiates the review. Article 9 appears to be cases where the Officials need assistance to manage something in a game and is not initiated by the Replay Official. On this play, the refs ruled down by contact so they were not in need of assistance or clarification. If a team is in doubt, they can challenge which is why there's that wording at the end of Article 9. Confusing yes (just ask JBS), but it seems clear-ish to me.
Click to expand...

That's how I read it but it still seems a bit confusing. Surprise, surprise there is ambiguity in the NFL rule book. Hahaha.

But I tend to agree with you. The situation didn't warrant an automatic review there. We can complain about the silliness of that but the rule appears to be clear where and when they can step in.
 

Proof

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,973
Reaction score
13,810
boysfanperiod said:
My question is could we have challenged within the last 2 minutes. I thought a team couldn't because it is automatically reviewed in the booth.
Click to expand...
MarcusRock said:
As I showed you in the Game Thread, delay of game has an extra second built into it. We've benefitted from it as well. Here's the link .... again.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...echanics-have-an-extra-second-or-so-built-in/
Click to expand...

they addressed this on the broadcast and during the replay. clock hit zero, ball was not snapped. that's a penalty
 

Proof

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,973
Reaction score
13,810
MarcusRock said:
I'm not wrong. Read the rules I posted. Rational trumps emotion in these cases.
Click to expand...

I do appreciate what you bring to the board, but do you get tired of being the "well actually" guy to your own fanbase?
 
MarcusRock

MarcusRock

Well-Known Member
Messages
13,903
Reaction score
16,202
Proof said:
I do appreciate what you bring to the board, but do you get tired of being the "well actually" guy to your own fanbase?
Click to expand...

Nope. I'm about truth and anti-whining which means I get a lot of opportunities. I don't even take them all. Lol.
 

Playmaker3128

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,972
Reaction score
6,691
In regards to the penalties it is just inconsistent. How can we get called for ticky tack stuff, but GB last week gets away with murder on Baker Mayfield's last drive.

I truly don't believe refs are out to get us, but subconsciously I think they throw more flags against some teams than others. Thats why I've always said if its not over the top don't call it. Again there is a reason the SB isn't the refs throwing a million flags. No doubt the nfl instructs them not to in my opinion
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top