I ran Daks's numbers again

MoistMayonnaise · Jan 19, 2022

Here it is: NFC East v. the rest of the schedule. Again, take what you want from them.

CATCH17 · Jan 19, 2022

I don’t think numbers matter when it comes to our QB.

Whether his numbers are good or bad all you need to know is the guy goes into a shell when the going gets tough and we need his arm to win us football games.

Like Jimmy G, you can win games with Dak types as long as the run game is strong and explosive. But don’t ask this type of QB to win you games even when paying them 40 million a year.

He’s not that kind of QB.

Hawkeye19 · Jan 19, 2022

Stats just aren’t the most relevant data in the “Dak debate.” He is heading into his 7th year in the NFL and he is paid as a top 3 QB.

The ROI is terrible to this point. He is 1-3 in the playoffs. Slow starts, flat play, inconsistent production… when he finds himself in the biggest moments, he has NOT delivered what the team has needed from him.

I am pulling for the guy and hope he turns it around— but right now, he looks and produces like an average QB in the big games.

And yes— coaches have sucked. The RBs have sucked. The OL has sucked. And the defense has sucked. Yep, yep, and yep… this team folds like a wet cardboard box in critical moments… and Dak is right there folding up shop with the best of em.

blueblood70 · Jan 19, 2022

how about now run the entire teams numbers

each player and group to show all the penalties and mistakes THEY ALL Made which also contributed to daks issues particularly the Offensive line. If not this is useless flawed and for sure a troll hater post when the team had issues in those games as well.

missing far too much info to blame dak..got it

NoLuv4Jerry · Jan 19, 2022

hittheskids said:
Here it is: NFC East v. the rest of the schedule. Again, take what you want from them.

Not that simple

You are comparing a 10 game sample size versus a 6 game sample size. So since the sample size is not the same....I would look at the average

Furthermore..we blew the NFC East out

We almost lost to the entire AFC West (squeaked by Chargers) (Raiders and Broncos beat us at HOME)

We lost to both NFC West teams we played (Cards and 49ers) at HOME!

So I really don't need to know the numbers (but thanks for the research) because I watched the games...and beating the brakes off the NFC East (not apologizing) did not prepare us for postseason football. We were the only home team that lost this weekend. If we played the 49ers 10 times they would win 7. I watched the Rams completely confuse/fluster Kyler Murray...and Murray has beat us TWICE in the last 2 years...so I doubt we would make the playoffs if we played in the NFC West.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 19, 2022

This isn’t just exclusive to Dak. The whole team seems to have worse numbers against the bette teams….

ak47kaehu · Jan 19, 2022

Try run the numbers to show how many wide open receivers and tight ends he missed on the big stage against the 49ers.

MoistMayonnaise · Jan 19, 2022

bbailey423 said:
Not that simple

You are comparing a 10 game sample size versus a 6 game sample size. So since the sample size is not the same....I would look at the average

Furthermore..we blew the NFC East out

We almost lost to the entire AFC West (squeaked by Chargers)

We lost to both NFC West teams we played (Cards and 49ers) at HOME!

So I really don't need to know the numbers (but thanks for the research) because I watched the games...and beating the brakes off the NFC East (not apologizing) did not prepare us for postseason football. We were the only home team that lost this weekend. If we played the 49ers 10 times they would win 7. I watched the Rams completely confuse/fluster Kyler Murray...and Murray has beat us TWICE in the last 2 years...so I doubt we would make the playoffs if we playedin the NFC West.

Dude, I posted it as NFC East v. the rest. It is that simple. They are just the numbers. And most of those numbers are averages, where appropriate. Sorry you don't like the numbers, they are what they are.

CowboyFrog · Jan 19, 2022

Hawkeye19 said:
Stats just aren’t the most relevant data in the “Dak debate.” He is heading into his 7th year in the NFL and he is paid as a top 3 QB.

The ROI is terrible to this point. He is 1-3 in the playoffs. Slow starts, flat play, inconsistent production… when he finds himself in the biggest moments, he has NOT delivered what the team has needed from him.

I am pulling for the guy and hope he turns it around— but right now, he looks and produces like an average QB in the big games.

And yes— coaches have sucked. The RBs have sucked. The OL has sucked. And the defense has sucked. Yep, yep, and yep… this team folds like a wet cardboard box in critical moments… and Dak is right there folding up shop with the best of em.

Agreed wether or not its singular to the players...from the coaches to the leaders on this team they dont seem to work together...Again its probably mostly due to the Clown running it but what else can we fix. If trends continue we will be saying the same thing about Parson's and Diggs soon...its the disease culture and it fails at the end.

Avery · Jan 19, 2022

This entire team ducks into a hole when it comes to playoff games. Dak is one of many players who can't seem to grab the spotlight when it's at it's brightest.

blueblood70 · Jan 19, 2022

Hawkeye19 said:
Stats just aren’t the most relevant data in the “Dak debate.” He is heading into his 7th year in the NFL and he is paid as a top 3 QB.

The ROI is terrible to this point. He is 1-3 in the playoffs. Slow starts, flat play, inconsistent production… when he finds himself in the biggest moments, he has NOT delivered what the team has needed from him.

I am pulling for the guy and hope he turns it around— but right now, he looks and produces like an average QB in the big games.

And yes— coaches have sucked. The RBs have sucked. The OL has sucked. And the defense has sucked. Yep, yep, and yep… this team folds like a wet cardboard box in critical moments… and Dak is right there folding up shop with the best of em.

YUP its not just dak oits all the above that chart is useless and full of holes. foirst it has 10 games to 6 nothing about road vs home and missing the other players and groups numbers that would show why dak may have performed poorly.

dak didn't get 14 penalties, dak didn't miss blocks, dak didn't drop passes, dak didn't have sunlight blind a wr, dak didnt give up points on the first 4 drives in the first half, dak doesn't pay defense, miss xps and Fgs, or call plays nor does he account for the officials' mistakes.

G2 · Jan 19, 2022

This is helpful if you're comparing QB to QB, but what is more helpful is factoring the entire offensive statistical breakdown. Then you can better identify the games Prescott played poorly vs. the running game, etc.

So, if we're being honest and fair, what are other QBs stats compared to their division and non division? That's a more accurate view.

MoistMayonnaise · Jan 19, 2022

Te EVERYONE that is butthurt over the post, chill out.

I wasn't looking for your agreement, but was asked to compare division games against non-division.

I understand there is more to the game, this is just one slice.

blueblood70 · Jan 19, 2022

hittheskids said:
Here it is: NFC East v. the rest of the schedule. Again, take what you want from them.

horrible chart fits narrative i see..lol
dak didn't get 14 penalties, dak didn't miss blocks, dak didn't drop passes, dak didn't have sunlight blind a wr, dak didnt give up points on the first 4 drives in the first half, dak doesn't play defense, miss xps and Fgs, or call plays nor does he account for the officials' mistakes.

blueblood70 · Jan 19, 2022

hittheskids said:
Te EVERYONE that is butthurt over the post, chill out.

I wasn't looking for your agreement, but was asked to compare division games against non-division.

I understand there is more to the game, this is just one slice.

not a slice of anything,

dak didn't get 14 penalties, dak didn't miss blocks, dak didn't drop passes, dak didn't have sunlight blind a wr, dak didnt give up points on the first 4 drives in the first half, dak doesn't pay defense, miss xps and Fgs, or call plays nor does he account for the officials' mistakes.

you seem butthurt its not getting the response you hoped.

MoistMayonnaise · Jan 19, 2022

blueblood70 said:
not a slice of anything,

dak didn't get 14 penalties, dak didn't miss blocks, dak didn't drop passes, dak didn't have sunlight blind a wr, dak didnt give up points on the first 4 drives in the first half, dak doesn't pay defense, miss xps and Fgs, or call plays nor does he account for the officials' mistakes.

you seem butthurt its not getting the response you hoped.

LOL. I wasn't really sure what response I would get but now I know.

Creeper · Jan 19, 2022

I think we now know what Dak is and unfortunately it took too long to figure it out. Since he is under contract and impossible to cut or trade they need to build something around him.

What has to happen now is they need to retool the team to run the football and stop the run. Dak will have to revert to what he was in 2016 when he threw for a little over 200 yards per game. I think the defense is really close. They have some free agents they need to sign, like Kearse, Malik Hooker, and Gregory, then add a run stuffing DT. Maybe that will be Gallimore.

On offense, they need to fix the LG spot and get an OC that knows how to run the football effectively. I think they can get away with the rest of the OL if they have to. Then they need to commit to Pollard and maybe draft another RB with speed and power in the 3rd or 4th round. I think they should develop Ralston as a FB, or draft someone else, and run the ball with a lead blocker who can also carry the ball or go out for a pass.

Let Dak become more of a game manager who does not have to take the team on his shoulders, a burden he has proven he cannot manage.

Tommy · Jan 19, 2022

CATCH17 said:
I don’t think numbers matter when it comes to our QB.

Whether his numbers are good or bad all you need to know is the guy goes into a shell when the going gets tough and we need his arm to win us football games.

Like Jimmy G, you can win games with Dak types as long as the run game is strong and explosive. But don’t ask this type of QB to win you games even when paying them 40 million a year.

He’s not that kind of QB.

The only way this offensive gets back on track is to fix our running game and OL. As long as defenses are rushing 4 and 7 guys are sitting back in zone coverage this offense is going nowhere.

ghosttown cowboy · Jan 19, 2022

1-3 in the playoffs is the only stat that matters...

atlantacowboy · Jan 19, 2022

hittheskids said:
Here it is: NFC East v. the rest of the schedule. Again, take what you want from them.

He was really bad against the AFC West. But, had nice games against Tampa and NE. The only stat that really matters is playoff wins. QBs are measured by their postseason success. Thats the stat that makes Brady the GOAT, and the stats thats probably going to keep Romo out of the HOF as a player.

The truth is Dak was good and bad during the regular season, but ugly when it mattered most.

I ran Daks's numbers again

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