Been seeing a lot of rumors on trading Cooper

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I don't think that the Cowboys should let go of Cooper, especially with the potential of Gallup being a free agent and being picked up by another team. Then Cooper being gone means potentially having either to pick up a new WR in the draft or free agency and hoping he is as productive as Cooper has and can be.
 

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Sydla said:
Cowboys are in a tough spot cap wise.

However, if Gallup has a depressed market due to his ACL injury, the Cowboys might be thinking trade/cut Cooper, use some of that cap savings to bring back Gallup, Wilson, etc.

Lamb, Cooper, Wilson isn't a bad Top 3. It's quite good. Fix the interior OL and you should be fine from that perspective. Then it falls on Moore and Dak.
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You can potentially bring back gallup at a reduced rate, likely a 1 year deal, due to the injury. But he likely won't be ready for the first 3-4 games at the earliest. In that case, you have CD and Wilson as your top 2 receivers. Anybody else uncomfortable with that?
 
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Cowboys should hold onto Cooper, but also should be fielding trade offers. Wouldn't move him for 3rd round picks, but if there were multiple teams and someone came flying in with a 1st rounder or swap 1st rounders to move up significantly along with a day 2 pick would have to listen to it
 
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If it's a matter of wanting Cooper or not it's a no brainer.

Have to look at it up against what other parts will be lost due to it.
 
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khiladi said:
I agree if this is what the trade is for, but Cooper has been the latest target of criticism for the QB.
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I'm not going to get into peoples personal views on Dak or Cooper or any player. My views are based on the cap situation and really the importance of the draft to acquire players since high priced FA is something I do not see the Cowboys entering. If freeing up money and getting potential talent out of the draft by trading Cooper then great, I would not just release him as a cap casualty when I do think looking at FA WR this year that Cowboys could get something good in return on Cooper.

I would love nothing more than to be able to keep all key players but I realistically know that is not going to happen
 
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Doomsday101 said:
I'm not going to get into peoples personal views on Dak or Cooper or any player. My views are based on the cap situation and really the importance of the draft to acquire players since high priced FA is something I do not see the Cowboys entering. If freeing up money and getting potential talent out of the draft by trading Cooper then great, I would not just release him as a cap casualty when I do think looking at FA WR this year that Cowboys could get something good in return on Cooper.

I would love nothing more than to be able to keep all key players but I realistically know that is not going to happen
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Agreed.

If you can retain 2-3 players you would have lost plus potentially add a solid contributor or two in the draft then it's just good business.

I dont at all overlook what he brings to the table but the less we win in the trenches the less valuable he is anyway.
 
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fivetwos said:
Agreed.

If you can retain 2-3 players you would have lost plus potentially add a solid contributor or two in the draft then it's just good business.

I dont at all overlook what he brings to the table but the less we win in the trenches the less valuable he is anyway.
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I learned along time ago if you trade low value player you get low value in return, I do think Cooper has a good value to him in trade and if Cowboys can get a good pick and or picks in return then it starts to make sense, since it helps vs cap and it helps in acquiring talent since Cowboys are not in a position to make big high dollar moves in FA .
 
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Doomsday101 said:
I learned along time ago if you trade low value player you get low value in return, I do think Cooper has a good value to him in trade and if Cowboys can get a good pick and or picks in return then it starts to make sense, since it helps vs cap and it helps in acquiring talent since Cowboys are not in a position to make big high dollar moves in FA .
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Yeah....I mean people never see it that way but it may be the difference in being able to retain a guy like Kearse or not.
 
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fivetwos said:
Yeah....I mean people never see it that way but it may be the difference in being able to retain a guy like Kearse or not.
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Very true, we have some guys that we need to sign and Kearse in my view is one of them. I do think Cowboys would be able to get Gallup and maybe even Wilson signed so we could still have a very good WR core. I would love nothing more than to keep Cooper, me talking about trade has nothing do with how I feel about him as a player. I just as soon keep him but I know that given the situation Dallas can't keep everyone they like
 
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Adreme said:
Who among the listed players is giving you anything higher than a mid round pick? Your RB who has a torn PCL and has had 2 down years in a row? DLaw who just missed half a year is not playing like he deserves a 19m salary? The WR who has just had a bad year and who also has a high salary? Your oft injured LT who will be getting a 14m salary year? So none of them are worth a high pick and considering that getting rid of all of them basically gets you enough to be under the cap and sign draft picks I do not see the upside. So yes you still do not have high picks and still no money. Even if you make a few more cuts you are still not really going to get enough to be players in getting any decent FA's. You are basically going to be bargain hunting to fill out a roster or hoping those late round picks can somehow start year 1 which is a VERY unlikely scenario.
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We have our own first and second.
 
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quickccc said:
Imo, Lamb develops ...you scheme him....You keep building around him,...you keep supplying and adding other viable receiving options and weapons to beside with him.
that helps his development without the burden of him all on just him, while he hopefully progresses into not only a lead feature WR, ..but hopefully an elite one.
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That would be nice, but I think we've seen that Moore is incapable of doing that...especially against decent teams. So forgive me if I don't have faith in this coaching collective doing that.
 
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DeathMonkey said:
That would be nice, but I think we've seen that Moore is incapable of doing that...especially against decent teams. So forgive me if I don't have faith in this coaching collective doing that.
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Kellen Moore and the OL coach is easily among the priority workings of this upcoming season that i believe the Jones will pursue a change - Lame Duck HC and all.

I'd be utterly stunned if the Jones decide let everything that is now among the offensive coaches remain the status quo as it is now.

How can you sell and convince the fan base otherwise ?
 

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CowboyRoy said:
We have our own first and second.
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And with 1 1st and 2nd you are going to find: a new starter at CB, multiple DL starters, at least 1 LB, at least 1 new WR because you are probably losing 3 of the top 4, a new franchise LT, and a new G. That is what is likely leaving in FA and I am assuming they somehow sign Schultz (and cut Brown because the 5m you save by cutting him is probably essential). If you can split 2 draft picks that many ways you could be the greatest GM in history. Not just in the NFL but in every single sport.
 
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Jarntt said:
Cooper's $20M salary guarantees on the 5th league day of 2022. So, If you are looking to trade him you need to either be willing to pay him that $20M if the right trade doesn't materialize or do something very quickly or you will risk letting his contract guarantee and be stuck holding the bag for another year.
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I think the fact that Cooper was the one contract they didn't touch when they were doing restructures last year gives a good indication they will move on.
 
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INCowboysFan said:
I would want more than 2 3rd rounders. Got to have at least a 2nd in the package.
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We invested the 27th pick in Cooper which is worth 680 points in this year’s draft. I would try for the Jags own 2nd & 4th which is 692 points. But them taking on the contract is worth something so I would settle for 2 3rds (picks 65 and 70) which is 505 points. That’s good ammo to move up from our 2nd round pick or to stay and get a receiver with one if the 3rd round picks.
 
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