How did Cooper Rush fall through the cracks?

buybuydandavis · Oct 4, 2022

Blackrain said:
And that would be because you cannot compare Cooper Rush to Roger Staubach.

Roger Staubach is an NFL god who won super bowls and is in the Hall of Fame.

Dak Prescott has done nothing in comparison That's why he can be compared with Cooper Rush.

Roger Staubach is at a whole different level with the most elite to have ever played this game.

Staubach is a level above the QBs a level above Cooper.

Rockport · Oct 4, 2022

RomoIsGod said:
I mean he's been in the league since 2017. He went undrafted. Has been cut several times. Cut this year and cleared waivers. Yet, here he is at almost 29 years old balling out with the Cowboys. To the point that people are suggesting he become the starter. I mean, this doesn't even happen unless you are Kurt Warner. I am by no means suggesting that he is good as Kurt but he's playing at a decently high level. How did this happen?

Dude get a grip. He’s not that good. He’s a good backup. Nothing more, nothing less. Jeez we have some misinformed fans who get their tales from couch potato Zoners and talking heads. I swear we have the dumbest fans.

RomoIsGod · Oct 4, 2022

Rush reminds me a lot of Jason Garrett back in the 90s as a backup.

Blackrain · Oct 4, 2022

Rockport said:
Dude get a grip. He’s not that good. He’s a good backup. Nothing more, nothing less. Jeez we have some misinformed fans who get their tales from couch potato Zoners and talking heads. I swear we have the dumbest fans.

And you may need to loosen your grip on all your preconceived notions and start to believe what your eyes tell you Even though it doesn't fit your narrative.
Rush is good enough to win games in the NFL although he may not be as athletically gifted as many starting quarterbacks he processes information reads defenses and plays within his boundaries better than many quarterbacks.

Rush is a smart confident player who knows how to operate within his limitations and obviously possesses the leadership to get his team to play for him.

He is more than a backup on our team he has been our starting quarterback for the last three games and is saving our season.

He may have to continue as our starter as we have absolutely no idea how Dak is going to be able to throw the ball after he is cleared to play.

plymkr · Oct 4, 2022

RomoIsGod said:
Rush reminds me a lot of Jason Garrett back in the 90s as a backup.

That is a really good comparison. He played well when asked and he didn't lose the games. His play allowed the other stars in the team to take over. That's pretty much what Rush is doing. I feel there are some on this board that are over doing things with Rush which isn't fair. Then there are fans that are minimizing what Rush is doing which also isn't fair. What Rush is doing is moving the offense, reading the defense and not turning it over. By doing those things he's putting the playmakers on the team, offense and defense, in the best chance to succeed. Exactly what a backup QB should do and he's doing it well.

CowboyoWales · Oct 4, 2022

Cowboys22 said:
He fell through the crack because he has never been very good. He doesn’t have the arm strength you want but he is able to understand the offense as good as the coaches and execute it fairly well if not asked to do to much. He can win games with a defense holding teams below 20 points week after week but let the defense give up 30+ and he will likely struggle to keep up.

....as you say, as a draftee his arm doesn't play as a NFL starter (a bit like Brady dropping). He isnt 'very good' he's limited, however, that is his selling point, there's no point in playing a sophisticated Offense....just play it simple. Sometimes you need to play with what you've got.

What these 3 games have shown is that if we dumb it down, play it simple and Dak can make the occasional long/mid range throws to keep the secondary honest and use his legs to take advantage of any deep cover2. we could well have a Very Good Offense.

It is supposition though, but if Dak is learning from the sideline (as he says he is) and gets confident to get the ball away then Coop will become a footnote to history as a trailblazer that helped show Dak the way.

CowboyoWales · Oct 4, 2022

plymkr said:
That is a really good comparison. He played well when asked and he didn't lose the games. His play allowed the other stars in the team to take over. That's pretty much what Rush is doing. I feel there are some on this board that are over doing things with Rush which isn't fair. Then there are fans that are minimizing what Rush is doing which also isn't fair. What Rush is doing is moving the offense, reading the defense and not turning it over. By doing those things he's putting the playmakers on the team, offense and defense, in the best chance to succeed. Exactly what a backup QB should do and he's doing it well.

Agree, but it's not necessarily Rush that fans are happy with, it's the simplistic and effective Offense that appears to have and work through (a limited) gameplan.

As you say it's a good QB2....but it's given the blueprint of what we can and should do.

The question/conversation is whether Dak will elevate this gameplan (taking into account his contract), or whether we'll get a similar return when Dak get's back.

What I hope is that Dak see's this as a challenge and raises his game, because as a Cowboys fan, we have an option if he doesnt (or injury curtails his progress).

Starforever · Oct 4, 2022

Listen, for all the fanfare concerning Cooper Rush. If he were a starting QB, he might not be any better than Baker Mayfield. He has done well so far and I am happy for him, but I realize that this cannot last.

Fan loyalty does not last. When Cooper Rush rides off into obscurity, I will not forget the time he helped carry the Cowboys while Dak was hurt. I celebrate his pocket awareness, humble attitude and his contributions.

Go Cowboys!

plymkr · Oct 4, 2022

CowboyoWales said:
Agree, but it's not necessarily Rush that fans are happy with, it's the simplistic and effective Offense that appears to have and work through (a limited) gameplan.

As you say it's a good QB2....but it's given the blueprint of what we can and should do.

The question/conversation is whether Dak will elevate this gameplan (taking into account his contract), or whether we'll get a similar return when Dak get's back.

What I hope is that Dak see's this as a challenge and raises his game, because as a Cowboys fan, we have an option if he doesnt (or injury curtails his progress).

I completely agree. We need to keep this gameplan regardless who the QB is. Right now we're playing good complimentary football. Changing the gameplan for Dak would disrupt the team's rhythm. Right now we got a good thing going. I hope we don't mess with a good thing. We need to gameplan to protect the QB's shortcomings and rely on our defense and hope the QB doesn't make mistakes to lose the game, regardless who the QB is.

NotForLong · Oct 4, 2022

Vanilla2 said:
I keep reading the comparisons but the one comparison I think everyone is missing is roger staubach. Cooper Rush is the greatest qb to take the field as a Dallas cowboy since ol #12 hung em up!

GINeric · Oct 4, 2022

RomoIsGod said:
I mean he's been in the league since 2017. He went undrafted. Has been cut several times. Cut this year and cleared waivers. Yet, here he is at almost 29 years old balling out with the Cowboys. To the point that people are suggesting he become the starter. I mean, this doesn't even happen unless you are Kurt Warner. I am by no means suggesting that he is good as Kurt but he's playing at a decently high level. How did this happen?

He had a chance to grow and mature behind the scenes. This is the way alot of quarterbacks were brought up before Free Agency. Thats why you had great quarterbacks, starters and backups years ago.

Now what makes today's young quarterbacks great is the year round camps, clinics, and specialists. I bet you Rush would be a pretty good offensive coordinator when he stops playing because he learned from the sidelines and in practice.

NotForLong · Oct 4, 2022

buybuydandavis said:
Cooper doesn't have the measurables to be a big time QB, but unlike most backups he's been in the same system for 5 years. He knows the system and the other players in it. He's playing opposite a good defense.

As a QB, he's got what it takes to learn the system and has been given ample time to do so.

Cooper is yet another demonstration by the Cowboys that good QBs can be had downroster if given a chance. Romo, Moore, Dak, Rush. All for 1 4th round pick.

One of my wishes was for McCarthy to really focus on developing QBs, and only consider paying one *after* the team makes it over the hump. Imagine Rush as QB with 40million more spent on the defense and offense.

Rush < Dak
But
Rush + 40mil > Dak

Ranched · Oct 4, 2022

Rush & the team are running on all cylinders thanks to a much improved coaching staff. Rush has had a handful of over thrown passes as well. But with the team coming away w/wins, nobody seems to point that out. Unless of course it's Prescott center. Sad!

NotForLong · Oct 4, 2022

RomoIsGod said:
I mean he's been in the league since 2017. He went undrafted. Has been cut several times. Cut this year and cleared waivers. Yet, here he is at almost 29 years old balling out with the Cowboys. To the point that people are suggesting he become the starter. I mean, this doesn't even happen unless you are Kurt Warner. I am by no means suggesting that he is good as Kurt but he's playing at a decently high level. How did this happen?

Why is everybody jumping on your case? . . . The Dak Fan Boys are rabid . . . You literally say (And I never use that expression) . . . You Literally said I BY NO MEANS SUGGESTING THAT HE IS GOOD AS KURT

Its obvious to any NFL Fan you are referencing "The Feel Good" Story . . . But these Dak Fans "Don't Feel Good" . . . "There's a sick anxious feeling in their guts" . . . They can't attack the Facts (Cooper's performance 4-0) so they attack the Man.

Shame its Exciting times and they are all Nervous & Upset for their Boy worried about how this will affect him

Hey Ok Ill let them sell their "Last Natrative" . . . We are gonna dumb down the offense and Dak has improved by watching Rush show him how its done . . .
I say win / win . . . We know we got a backup in Rush and after 7 years SOMEONE WAS FINALLY ABLE TO TEACH DAK

GO COWBOYS :flagwave:

NotForLong · Oct 4, 2022

Ranched said:
Rush & the team are running on all cylinders thanks to a much improved coaching staff. Rush has had a handful of over thrown passes as well. But with the team coming away w/wins, nobody seems to point that out. Unless of course it's Prescott center. Sad!

You people crack me up.. . .

charron · Oct 4, 2022

Backups rarely get many chances. They barely get practice time.

The keys to winning consistently with all qb's:
1. Good defense.
2. Good rushing attack.

RoboQB · Oct 4, 2022

Peeps! C'mon now. I'm loving watching the Cooper Rush train
going down the track but....
Dallas beat a struggling Bengals team and two division foes
who they've owned for quite some time now.
The defense looks phenomenal! Hopefully Dan Quinn will
decide to take Jerry's money and become a career DC ala Dick Lebeau (Blitzsburgh days).

john van brocklin · Oct 4, 2022

exciter said:
No one missed anything. One of the things tested for at the combine is velocity… his was a paltry 45 MPH. That limits him to only being able to make about half the passes necessary for a starter at this level. Hes held on because he a cerebral knowledge of the offense. So far they’ve been able to limit his throws to what he’s good at, in part because of the defense limiting other teams and we haven’t exactly played offensive juggernauts. Eventually there’s going to be enough tape on him, the opposing teams can game plan to take away the passes he’s capable of making!

Thanks, Good info !

darthseinfeld · Oct 4, 2022

RomoIsGod said:
I mean he's been in the league since 2017. He went undrafted. Has been cut several times. Cut this year and cleared waivers. Yet, here he is at almost 29 years old balling out with the Cowboys. To the point that people are suggesting he become the starter. I mean, this doesn't even happen unless you are Kurt Warner. I am by no means suggesting that he is good as Kurt but he's playing at a decently high level. How did this happen?

He is a bad preseason QB. When was the last time you remember him have even a decent preseason

darthseinfeld · Oct 4, 2022

Jake said:
The Cowboys have allowed 43 points during his current three-game winning streak.

I've seen Dak and Romo lose GAMES where the opponent scored more than 43, and fans blamed them for the loss.

Rush is doing his job and the defense has his back. Let's stop mentioning Kurt Warner and Tom Brady in relation to him.

Can we at least mention Marc Bulger

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