Lance Dunbar tore his Patellar Tendon too?

Idgit · Apr 12, 2016

iceberg said:
when isn't around here?

We just call them 'moments' now.

DandyDon52 · Apr 12, 2016

SwensonDC said:
Wasn't this on a kickoff return when there were already guys at the 10-yard line?

yes but with dunbars size and build and previous injury history was it smart to have him return kicks or punts ??
To me it was stupid, since he had more value as a receiver out of backfield.

Alexander · Apr 12, 2016

Vinnie2u said:
Paul Perkins in the 4th round will cure us of Dunbaritis...

I can't think of a better bargain.

jobberone · Apr 12, 2016

Alexander said:
I can't think of a better bargain.

There is definitely a better player even out of the backfield. But it won't be a bargain. Zeke.

Alexander · Apr 12, 2016

jobberone said:
There is definitely a better player even out of the backfield. But it won't be a bargain. Zeke.

Of course. I would take him. I doubt the front office has the guts.

jobberone · Apr 12, 2016

Alexander said:
Of course. I would take him. I doubt the front office has the guts.

Why do you have to make it personal? I would prefer to think they would make a consensus pick using the best interest of the club.

My guess is they have to answer the question about QB or not. Then they need to look at pass rush then pass defense. These will help the club more than a RB even though this one seems special.

I wouldn't put Zeke in a tier above some of the others on their list.

Nightman · Apr 12, 2016

jobberone said:
Why do you have to make it personal? I would prefer to think they would make a consensus pick using the best interest of the club.

My guess is they have to answer the question about QB or not. Then they need to look at pass rush then pass defense. These will help the club more than a RB even though this one seems special.

I wouldn't put Zeke in a tier above some of the others on their list.

Why do you take every remark about the FO personally is the question.

They don't have the guts to draft EE at 4.

jobberone · Apr 12, 2016

Because of the use of personal words on his and your part. You personalize the statement rather than see it objectively. And that is my professional opinion within a reasonable degree of certainty.

I would say they, in a professional way, would probably not spend a R1-4 on a RB thinking that a prudent decision.

bkight13 said:
Why do you take every remark about the FO personally is the question.

They don't have the guts to draft EE at 4.

fortdick · Apr 13, 2016

iceberg said:
when isn't around here?

True, so true

Hoofbite · Apr 13, 2016

HoustonFrog said:
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Lance Dunbar tore ACL, MCL, patellar tendon http://tinyurl.com/zp5sau9

In addition to his ACL, Cowboys RB Lance Dunbar tore his MCL and patellar tendon last October.

The revelation was caught in an ESPN column by Rotoviz's Jeff Budoff, a licensed orthopedic surgeon. Patellar tendon tears are among the worst injuries an NFL player can suffer, with few known success stories following the injury. As Budoff notes, they "usually" result in a "loss of explosive leg power." Dunbar had his patellar tendon repaired last October, but had to wait until December to undergo ACL surgery. Dunbar recently admitted there is "no timeline" for his return. He could be a reserve/PUP candidate to open 2016.

So he tore it all?

jobberone · Apr 13, 2016

Hoofbite said:
So he tore it all?

He tore his MCL and ACL as well as patellar tendon. I don't know if it was a infrapatellar tear but I suspect so. He did not tear the meniscus and he suffered no nerve damage. All this suggests a Grade III tear of the MCL and who knows about the ACL but that doesn't matter in the end so much anymore like it once did. The patellar tendon tear will likely be the most suspect followed by the MCL then the ACL. Unless the knee is unstable then the problem will be the patellar tendon repair. All we can do is hope for the best. If he makes it to the practice field then we'll know a lot more just by his being there.

I'm not pessimistic at all. Just a tad optimistic with reserve.

starfrombirth · Apr 13, 2016

jobberone said:
He tore his MCL and ACL as well as patellar tendon. I don't know if it was a infrapatellar tear but I suspect so. He did not tear the meniscus and he suffered no nerve damage. All this suggests a Grade III tear of the MCL and who knows about the ACL but that doesn't matter in the end so much anymore like it once did. The patellar tendon tear will likely be the most suspect followed by the MCL then the ACL. Unless the knee is unstable then the problem will be the patellar tendon repair. All we can do is hope for the best. If he makes it to the practice field then we'll know a lot more just by his being there.

I'm not pessimistic at all. Just a tad optimistic with reserve.

We really need to change your name to "Doc".

Nation · Apr 13, 2016

That's unfortunate as the patellar tendon tear is probably the most devastating injury in sports to come back from. ACL surgery has come a long way but patellar tendon tears and microfracture surgeries have become near-impossible recoveries lately. We saw last year with Victor Cruz all the complications that relate to that injury.

Stash · Apr 13, 2016

I wish the team would just stop wasting time on a player who simply can't stand up to the physical demands of the NFL. I don't want to seem cold or unfeeling because I can sympathize with the guy's plight. But, while I can feel bad for his personal situation, I also understand that this is a business and the team needs players that it can count on. Lance Dunbar is not one of those players.

And we've seen far too many cases of this team signing, drafting, or relying on physically unreliable players and getting burned in the process. It's time for them to stop that pattern and it should start here.

Denim Chicken · Apr 13, 2016

stasheroo said:
I wish the team would just stop wasting time on a player who simply can't stand up to the physical demands of the NFL. I don't want to seem cold or unfeeling because I can sympathize with the guy's plight. But, while I can feel bad for his personal situation, I also understand that this is a business and the team needs players that it can count on. Lance Dunbar is not one of those players.

And we've seen far too many cases of this team signing, drafting, or relying on physically unreliable players and getting burned in the process. It's time for them to stop that pattern and it should start here.

You could have said that about Murray before 2014.

The fact is some players just have bad luck. It doesn't mean their bones or ligaments are any weaker than their counterparts.

Stash · Apr 13, 2016

Denim Chicken said:
You could have said that about Murray before 2014.

The fact is some players just have bad luck. It doesn't mean their bones or ligaments are any weaker than their counterparts.

Sorry, I'm not believing in "luck". Not for Sean Lee, and certainly not for Lance Dunbar. If it happens once? Sure. Twice? You're justified in starting to wonder. Any more than that? The pattern is clear and if you refuse to admit it, then It's on you for blinding yourself to the truth.

The sad fact is that Lance Dunbar has gotten injured each and every time this team has used him or counted on him, and it's past time for that pattern to stop.

Denim Chicken · Apr 13, 2016

stasheroo said:
Sorry, I'm not believing in "luck". Not for Sean Lee, and certainly not for Lance Dunbar. If it happens once? Sure. Twice? You're justified in starting to wonder. Any more than that? The pattern is clear and if you refuse to admit it, then It's on you for blinding yourself to the truth.

The sad fact is that Lance Dunbar has gotten injured each and every time this team has used him or counted on him, and it's past time for that pattern to stop.

I agree if its the same injury over and over, but I don't buy the lazy injury prone label when a guy breaks his foot and then pulls groin or something dissimilar.

Stash · Apr 13, 2016

Denim Chicken said:
I agree if its the same injury over and over, but I don't buy the lazy injury prone label when a guy breaks his foot and then pulls groin or something dissimilar.

If it's fact, how is it "lazy"?

It's not opinion or bias that Lance Dunbar has been repeatedly hurt, it's fact.

Repeatedly injured is injury prone.

Denim Chicken · Apr 13, 2016

stasheroo said:
If it's fact, how is it "lazy"?

It's not opinion or bias that Lance Dunbar has been repeatedly hurt, it's fact.

Repeatedly injured is injury prone.

OK, so Murray is injury prone despite the fact he was carried 30 + times each game in 2014 with out incident. I suppose Payton Manning was injury prone as well. I guess DEZ is injury prone since he has back spams and broke his foot. Heck, I guess 90% of the NFL is injury prone.

Stash · Apr 13, 2016

Denim Chicken said:
OK, so Murray is injury prone despite the fact he was carried 30 + times each game in 2014 with out incident. I suppose Payton Manning was injury prone as well. I guess DEZ is injury prone since he has back spams and broke his foot. Heck, I guess 90% of the NFL is injury prone.

Their situations are nothing like Dunbar's. And I'm not about to enter into your reductio ad absurdum attempt at debating it.

Lance Dunbar tore his Patellar Tendon too?

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What's it going to be then, eh?

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